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aryavat said:   marketingmike said:   Here's the way dating ought to be (nsfw): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoEkYzXL2zk&feature=share

wow!

That's the power of J date!


skansiewicz said:   dshibb said:   Is there something about the way that story was written that is getting women to not understand the obvious sarcasm?

The 2 posters that didn't get it plus one greener are all women and they don't exactly make up that much of the FWF population.

I don't get it. How is the joke not obvious?


Because it's not funny. He doesn't come across as sarcastic, he comes across as a douchebag.

Note, I am not a female.

Thank you, Mister!


svr411 said:   If you give out a signup bonus as enticement, don't be surprised when you get churned for free stuff.


lol


niniss said:   I know plenty of my former female colleagues can have 3 or 4 glasses when we go out for happy hours or so.

I had an ex-girlfriend who would drink 4-8 drinks with meal. Every drink made her a more obnoxious, entitled gold digger. I count the day we broke up among the best days of my life.

I remember the day she arrived at my apartment drunk, completely stripped on the way to the bedroom, and I didn't hit it because I felt bad because she'd be too drunk to remember. Turns out, that'd be the only chance. That might be one of the stupider days of my life.

Maybe I'm just a bitter old man, but there's a point where a girl drinking moves past an opportunity and it becomes a problem.


The first guy probably "forgot" his wallet to see how the girl would react to having to pay. I see nothing wrong with splitting the bill or alternating. Coupons and certificates are cool, too.

I think the only two times it might be unfair to complain that the other party didn't offer to pay or split the bill would be when you selected a fairly expensive restaurant that might be out of the other person's price range or when your share of the bill is disproportionately high. Even then, he/she might be too embarrassed not to at least offer to pay.

Also, while svr411 joked about being churned, showing off on a first date probably sets a precedent. If you willingly repeat that several times, you can't get too mad when the other person finally accepts it as the status quo.


I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!


Single FW ladies, send me a message.

My best dates are random, spur of the moment cheapo ones.


Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!
Doesn't that usually mean she doesn't want to feel beholden to the guy, making it easier to end it?


Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.


Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Didn't Simon and Garfunkel write a song about that?


beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.

+1


SUCKISSTAPLES said:   beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.

+1

+2


beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.

Lol we've been on 5 dates so far...she'd think I was crazy if I posted her pics online. Blonde, 5'6", 112 lbs, 27 y/o. I'll let you guys imagine the rest haha.

I think relationships should be financially fair for the most part. Chivalry doesn't mean the guy blows his savings on a girl IMO.


dshibb said:   SUCKISSTAPLES said:   beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.

+1


+2

Plus trois.


Al3xK said:   beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.


Lol we've been on 5 dates so far...she'd think I was crazy if I posted her pics online. Blonde, 5'6", 112 lbs, 27 y/o. I'll let you guys imagine the rest haha.

I think relationships should be financially fair for the most part. Chivalry doesn't mean the guy blows his savings on a girl IMO.

Isn't it fair when each side blows something during the course of the evening?

I wish they had cougar cruises when I was your age. That would be the most FWF approach to dating I can think of, other than putting yourself out on Backpage to fully fund that IRA.


Al3xK said:   beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.


Lol we've been on 5 dates so far...she'd think I was crazy if I posted her pics online. Blonde, 5'6", 112 lbs, 27 y/o. I'll let you guys imagine the rest haha.

I think relationships should be financially fair for the most part. Chivalry doesn't mean the guy blows his savings on a girl IMO.

and here she is.


qcumber98 said:   Al3xK said:   beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.


Lol we've been on 5 dates so far...she'd think I was crazy if I posted her pics online. Blonde, 5'6", 112 lbs, 27 y/o. I'll let you guys imagine the rest haha.

I think relationships should be financially fair for the most part. Chivalry doesn't mean the guy blows his savings on a girl IMO.


and here she is.
I'm sure her husband Pascal would be interested on how many dates she goes on.


qcumber98 said:   Al3xK said:   beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.


Lol we've been on 5 dates so far...she'd think I was crazy if I posted her pics online. Blonde, 5'6", 112 lbs, 27 y/o. I'll let you guys imagine the rest haha.

I think relationships should be financially fair for the most part. Chivalry doesn't mean the guy blows his savings on a girl IMO.


and here she is.

She's not attractive. Maybe she was at one point, but now she's just looking for her 15 minutes.


forbin4040 said:   I'm sure her husband Pascal would be interested on how many dates she goes on.

But she can't help it because she's too beautiful. Her husband has to understand her burden.


Al3xK said:   beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.


Lol we've been on 5 dates so far...she'd think I was crazy if I posted her pics online. Blonde, 5'6", 112 lbs, 27 y/o. I'll let you guys imagine the rest haha.

I think relationships should be financially fair for the most part. Chivalry doesn't mean the guy blows his savings on a girl IMO.

I wouldn't necessarily doubt him. Especially with very attractive women, they are used to guys trying to pay for everything, buying them dinner, and making all the effort. When they find one that they have to "chase" and pay for, it intrigues them.


svr411 said:   Isn't it fair when each side blows something during the course of the evening?

I see what you did there.


AbbaZabba said:   qcumber98 said:   Al3xK said:   beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.


Lol we've been on 5 dates so far...she'd think I was crazy if I posted her pics online. Blonde, 5'6", 112 lbs, 27 y/o. I'll let you guys imagine the rest haha.

I think relationships should be financially fair for the most part. Chivalry doesn't mean the guy blows his savings on a girl IMO.


and here she is.


She's not attractive. Maybe she was at one point, but now she's just looking for her 15 minutes.

I agree. She just looks like a normal woman.....


qcumber98 said:   Al3xK said:   beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.


Lol we've been on 5 dates so far...she'd think I was crazy if I posted her pics online. Blonde, 5'6", 112 lbs, 27 y/o. I'll let you guys imagine the rest haha.

I think relationships should be financially fair for the most part. Chivalry doesn't mean the guy blows his savings on a girl IMO.


and here she is.

She needs to get over herself !


suezyque said:   qcumber98 said:   Al3xK said:   beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.


Lol we've been on 5 dates so far...she'd think I was crazy if I posted her pics online. Blonde, 5'6", 112 lbs, 27 y/o. I'll let you guys imagine the rest haha.

I think relationships should be financially fair for the most part. Chivalry doesn't mean the guy blows his savings on a girl IMO.


and here she is.


She needs to get over herself !

I thought this was an april fools joke... who honestly writes a 5 page article about being good looking, filled with pictures of an average looking woman?


I've gone on first dates where I've used BOGO. I don't think it's cheap, but its smart as the OP said. I've had discussions with friends about this. What does it matter to the woman how much I paid for it? She's getting her meal for free regardless. Trick is to slip the coupon under the CC so she doesn't see it. Some friends want to argue with me about it, others agree. It's what makes this world go round. Some women have said it was a cheap move, on to the next one,


Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!
I'm a cynic, so don't mind me, but the way I see it, there are 3 options:

1. Spending $150/date is nothing to you or this girl. It's nice of her that she paid, and it works with your belief that relationships should be fair financially.
2. Spending $150/date is impressive.
... a. She's irresponsible with money. One day, her spending habits might bother you.
... b. She sees this as an investment in her future.

Personally, I thought you seemed impressed by the amount, not just the fact that she paid. Why else would you mention numbers?


SUCKISSTAPLES said:   Is sisdate.com taken?

I'll personally date everyone's sister (aged 18-25 and under 130lbs pls) and review them

Do I hear SIS's "date-o-rama" in the near future?


MissCrabette said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!
I'm a cynic, so don't mind me, but the way I see it, there are 3 options:

1. Spending $150/date is nothing to you or this girl. It's nice of her that she paid, and it works with your belief that relationships should be fair financially.
2. Spending $150/date is impressive.
... a. She's irresponsible with money. One day, her spending habits might bother you.
... b. She sees this as an investment in her future.

Personally, I thought you seemed impressed by the amount, not just the fact that she paid. Why else would you mention numbers?

I mentioned $150 because it wasn't like she took me for a couple drinks during happy hour and the bill was $12. I think $150 is a large amount for a date, especially when both parties are under 30. Went to a baseball game with killer seats, had beers there, went to a bar afterwords and had more beers, stopped by for dinner afterwords, had more beers somewhere too. She paid for the dates because I paid for the first couple so she insisted on paying for a couple. I think she's just making it clear that she isn't the type of girl to expect the guy to pay her way...def worth investing some time in.


With gas a $4.50 a gallon, guys aren't going to go to her house to just "cuddle"


I have dated a guy who was also on FWF (we broke up for other reasons years ago)
Generally I expect
First meeting - coffee or a drink we both pay our own way
First real date- guy should pick place and pay(coupons are fine but try and do the pay aspect graciously)- girl should offer but the guy should say no and pay as accepting the offer is a sign he is not interested in the girl.
Second date- girl should pick place or activity and pay. ( guy should offer but if she is gracious she picked the resturant/ activity she pays)
Beyond that generally each should plan about half the events/ activities/ dates and should pay for the ones they pick. So if you want to go out to uber expensive resturant then you pay if you want to go hiking and picnic by the falls in the state park you bring the basket full of yummy foods and hike it in, That way each can plan events that are fun and match their budget.

Woman should pay for pills man should pay for condoms and lube


bargainhunter3 said:   I've gone on first dates where I've used BOGO. I don't think it's cheap, but its smart as the OP said. I've had discussions with friends about this. What does it matter to the woman how much I paid for it? She's getting her meal for free regardless. Trick is to slip the coupon under the CC so she doesn't see it. Some friends want to argue with me about it, others agree. It's what makes this world go round. Some women have said it was a cheap move, on to the next one,

This is the only way to do it, I think.

The thing about using a coupon, to me, isn't that it signifies the person paying is cheap--it's smart not to pay more than you have to. It's that often when you're using a coupon, paying becomes a process, and that can be uncomfortable for the person not paying. It calls attention to the cost of and payment for the meal, something that should be incidental.

Another thing about coupons is, usually the hottest/best restaurants don't need to run coupon promotions. It's the ones that are making a last-ditch effort to stay afloat that do. So your date may be wondering why you took her to a crappy restaurant, and when you furnish the coupon, it's clear that you chose it just because you could get a deal.

Use a coupon, but do it discreetly.


Al3xK said:   beanie4me said:   Al3xK said:   I just had a girl pay for two dates ($150+ ea) in row when I tried to offer. And she's hot. Keeper!

Pics or it didn't happen.


Lol we've been on 5 dates so far...she'd think I was crazy if I posted her pics online. Blonde, 5'6", 112 lbs, 27 y/o. I'll let you guys imagine the rest haha.

I think relationships should be financially fair for the most part. Chivalry doesn't mean the guy blows his savings on a girl IMO.


If this is true, you should just marry her dude!


satchelsofgold said:   Another thing about coupons is, usually the hottest/best restaurants don't need to run coupon promotions. It's the ones that are making a last-ditch effort to stay afloat that do. So your date may be wondering why you took her to a crappy restaurant, and when you furnish the coupon, it's clear that you chose it just because you could get a deal.

Use a coupon, but do it discreetly.

i've used many a coupon on dates, first and subsequent alike, without hiding it in any way. no girl has ever rolled her eyes or otherwise expressed disdain for the practice, or if they did, it didnt prevent another date...i've also picked up girls in some of the rattiest vehicles ever used on dates (try a rusty fox-body mustang 5.0 with no mufflers, no working door handles, no A/C and a non-functional convertible top that was always DOWN...that i had to add water to every 20 miles or so...this was like 5 years ago...or my smokin-hot 1984 nissan maxima....or my 1981 caddy coupe deville de concours de bondo...or my almost-entirely-wrecked 1982 lincoln continental...or my sexy 1987 volvo station wagon). confidence goes a long way...it also helps to date young women who dont really care about most of that stuff.


Payoff said:   If I was single I would date you guys. Except the guy who brings first dates to his place. I would be too afraid of ending up next to the coffee in the freezer.

My first date with my now-husband was at my place. Given my husband's profession (forensic anthropology/entomology) and hobbies (martial arts, guns, etc), I probably should have been more cautious, but it's worked out okay thus far.


solarUS said:   i've used many a coupon on dates, first and subsequent alike, without hiding it in any way. no girl has ever rolled her eyes or otherwise expressed disdain for the practice, or if they did, it didnt prevent another date...i've also picked up girls in some of the rattiest vehicles ever used on dates (try a rusty fox-body mustang 5.0 with no mufflers, no working door handles, no A/C and a non-functional convertible top that was always DOWN...that i had to add water to every 20 miles or so...this was like 5 years ago...or my smokin-hot 1984 nissan maxima....or my 1981 caddy coupe deville de concours de bondo...or my almost-entirely-wrecked 1982 lincoln continental...or my sexy 1987 volvo station wagon). confidence goes a long way...it also helps to date young women who dont really care about most of that stuff.

You have had the crappiest car collection ever. Not sure if you're super cheap or super poor lol. That or you had all of these when you were 16-20 and you kept wrecking them.


[Garcia and Johnson are ordering food in a restaurant on their date]
Deputy James Garcia: [handing the waiter a coupon]: I'll have the chicken-fried steak and she'll have something of less than or equal value.


Logan71 said:   
By my mid 30's, I decided that inviting them over for dinner (I'm an impressive cook), worked better than 'where do you want to go?' and having the woman shop on price-point alone.

I don't mean to overgeneralize here but when you invite a woman over for dinner there seems to be an implication that you're asking them to fool around with you afterwards. I'm NOT saying "you cooked so she's obligated to put out" or anything like that, but guys need to be aware that a lot of women will interpret an invitation to their place a certain way.

Lots of first dates nowadays are between people who met online and I really wouldn't want to go beyond coffee or drinks for something like that. You can only learn so much about someone from an OK Cupid profile so it's nice to have a first date where each person can graciously bow out after a relatively short period of time.


lindylady said:   
First real date- guy should pick place and pay(coupons are fine but try and do the pay aspect graciously)- girl should offer but the guy should say no and pay as accepting the offer is a

Don't offer if you don't want to pay. No one likes those kind of games.


If you want to be sure a girl like you for you and not for your cash, first date should be simple - coffee is really best. Coffee is cheap and it makes for a good place to have a conversation. This is especially true if you're dating online and going through a lot of dates. Ideally, do it around 2 PM or so - meet the girl, have coffee, and if the conversation is still going at 5 PM, go somewhere nice (but not superexpensive) for dinner.

If you're not dating online, and you already know the girl and think you like her, take her to an inexpensive, small, nice place. I did that with my now-girlfriend almost two years ago, spent maybe $30 for our first date, and we spent more time talking than eating.

On the other hand, if you just want the girl for a night, feel free to pay for the fancy dinner - or just pay for it since then you're sure to get it.


AbbaZabba said:   lindylady said:   
First real date- guy should pick place and pay(coupons are fine but try and do the pay aspect graciously)- girl should offer but the guy should say no and pay as accepting the offer is a


Don't offer if you don't want to pay. No one likes those kind of games.

+1. There is also no scripted formula for dating that says "X action means Y is their intent". Do what you feel comfortable with, you'll figure it out soon enough whether you are compatible or not.

As long as you don't end up dead or her stealing all your money, you're good. Also, remember 50% of pregnancies are unplanned.




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