Home selling nightmare - go after buyer's agent?

jaimelobo said:   Foghorn Leghorn had something to say about this
"Fortunately, I keep my feathers numbered for just such an emergency"?

"There's something kind of, I say, there's something kind of eeeewwwww about a kid that's never played baseball"?

"Wouldn't tell him I was hungry!"?

None seem to fit. All that time and I've learned nothing!

at least the buyer's agent won't be demanding a doormat...

i don't know why, but reading through this thread has gotten me super frustrated with the seller! not only is he continuing to get steamrolled by everyone (the buyer, the buyer's agent, the seller's agent, the hoa, the seller's wife), but he also seems to be in some sort of denial.

might sound harsh, but i can now say without feeling bad that the seller is going to get what he deserves because i know he is making illogical choices even after being informed of his options!

outtawhack said:   ard3n said:   at least the buyer's agent won't be demanding a doormat...

i don't know why, but reading through this thread has gotten me super frustrated with the seller! not only is he continuing to get steamrolled by everyone (the buyer, the buyer's agent, the seller's agent, the hoa, the seller's wife), but he also seems to be in some sort of denial.

might sound harsh, but i can now say without feeling bad that the seller is going to get what he deserves because i know he is making illogical choices even after being informed of his options!

I seriously think everyone is misreading this situation.

First - I didn't realize the buyers would be a pain in the butt when I signed the contract. But I signed the contract, and I believe I need to live with it, regardless. I would hope everyone on FW would do the same.

And everyone has told you time and again that while you are doing so, the buyers should be doing so as well. Allowing them to change the contract at will IS rolling over and playing doormat to them and their whims.



Second - if you read my first post, my whole point is the buyer's agent is the person I want to go after, and secondly make sure I'm protected from any legal action.



The buyer's agent is not the one you should be upset with, YOUR agent should be. You have been asked numerous times and have never answered, but what kin is your agent to you???? Your Mother-In-Law is what I am guessing???? Correct?



Third - I'm not in denial about anything. I urge anyone who thinks so to also think about what it is like to sell a house when you have 3 kids under the age of 4. It's just not that easy to go about life and to have a home for sale. It was a major effort to get the house ready to sell in the first place.



BS!!!! If you think you are the only one who has sold a house with kids that small and a stay-at-home Momma, you have rather severe delusions of grandeur. The fact that you will not have a straightforward conversation with your wife and discuss things is not the real estate agent's problem (neither of them), it sounds like you may want to consider couples therapy more than anything. (Am being serious, not putting you down, as am willing to wager that most of the people who have been on here that are in relationships have had rough spots at one time or another.)


Anyway, there was a monthly HOA meeting early this week, and the rule is being put on the ballot for the annual HOA meeting this May. People in the community will vote ahead of time, and it's a 99% certainty it will be struck down.



Finally, some good news. The HOA I am in is like that, get a majority to change a rule and its gone. A little activism and balls goes a long way.



I sent the HOA meeting minutes to my agent to pass on to the buyers, and I received a written note back from the buyers telling me my home is very nice and they really want it so they're fine with the home as is. Include with the buyers' letter was a nastygram from the buyer's agent that she would be in touch if the by-law doesn't get taken down and the buyers get fined next year.

So, on to settlement, now scheduled for Tuesday the 1st.

Sounds like the buyer's agent is nuts and after the closing, I would be very tempted to send them a note telling them to go eff themselves and that you have saved all the correspondence from them and will soon be publishing it ALL on-line in a blog and let the public decided whether to do business with them in the future. LOL, that should make them fill their pants as they cannot come after you for slander or libel if you have something to back it all up! The truth IS a very solid defense and any attorney they could possibly talk too will tell them that.

outtawhack said:   ard3n said:   at least the buyer's agent won't be demanding a doormat...

i don't know why, but reading through this thread has gotten me super frustrated with the seller! not only is he continuing to get steamrolled by everyone (the buyer, the buyer's agent, the seller's agent, the hoa, the seller's wife), but he also seems to be in some sort of denial.

might sound harsh, but i can now say without feeling bad that the seller is going to get what he deserves because i know he is making illogical choices even after being informed of his options!

I seriously think everyone is misreading this situation.

First - I didn't realize the buyers would be a pain in the butt when I signed the contract. But I signed the contract, and I believe I need to live with it, regardless. I would hope everyone on FW would do the same.

Second - if you read my first post, my whole point is the buyer's agent is the person I want to go after, and secondly make sure I'm protected from any legal action.

Third - I'm not in denial about anything. I urge anyone who thinks so to also think about what it is like to sell a house when you have 3 kids under the age of 4. It's just not that easy to go about life and to have a home for sale. It was a major effort to get the house ready to sell in the first place.

Anyway, there was a monthly HOA meeting early this week, and the rule is being put on the ballot for the annual HOA meeting this May. People in the community will vote ahead of time, and it's a 99% certainty it will be struck down.

I sent the HOA meeting minutes to my agent to pass on to the buyers, and I received a written note back from the buyers telling me my home is very nice and they really want it so they're fine with the home as is. Include with the buyers' letter was a nastygram from the buyer's agent that she would be in touch if the by-law doesn't get taken down and the buyers get fined next year.

So, on to settlement, now scheduled for Tuesday the 1st.

Being the first person ever to sell a house and have young kids you should write a book. Just in case anyone else ever wants to try it.

Again, the fines for the plate should be a non-issue. As the plate has to have the owner's name on it, once the house is sold it is their problem to bring the home to compliance on the issue.

saladdin said:   marketingmike said:   outtawhack said:   I made my wife cry

Very dumb. You'll pay for that.

Happy wife, happy life.

That's just such a sad life. Every time I hear that cliche I know a divorce is minutes away.

Minutes have passed. Still married.

I sold my house within and hour of the realtor putting up a sign. I thought things went well until days before closing, we had inspection everything was fine. Then the buyer said a light switch wouldn't work, I had an electrician check it, he wrote a note it was fine --nothing wrong. We moved out of the house, and we on the road, when we got the call the buyer may back out, the light switch is a concern. I wanted to scream...our realtor went back to the house and checked it out, there was a little bit of paint that made the switch stick a bit. She scratched it off, it was perfect. Stupid things that can cause problems. I would video tape the house completely before the walk thru and during the walk thru, and ask the buyers if they are satisfied, get it on tape. Hopefully once they move in they will never bother you again. Good luck

have you tried telling them to pound sand?

Buyer's agent is doing a hell of a job here....normally these guys do very little and just collect their share of commission. Please post their info.

Jstic said:   If I were the OP I would think long and hard about selling the home to this type of buyer. I can see multiple scenarios where in a few weeks or months things break, or need routine maintainence in the house, and although unforseen, this type of buyer will come back to you and say you failed to disclose. I'm not saying that they would have any ground to stand on, what I am saying is that selling to people like this may turn into a nightmare long after the sale goes through. What's gone on up to now may turn out to be a picnic compared to what buyers like this will do after the sale.

Unfortunately, I believe he has missed every opportunity to walk away from these buyers. I don't think there are any "outs" left at this point unless the buyers decide to abandon their $5k.

Can you provide info on the buyer's agent? I will like to use her in the future. Seems she is very active and protects the interest of the buyer. I am used to buyer agents who do no work and only protect the interest of sellers in order to get a sale (and commission) completed.

I'd agree that the buyer's agent seem over-zealous in her tactics. I think she would have done a lot better in this scenario if they had taken a more laid-back approach

I think everyone, including those of us reading the thread, really need to just go pound sand.

pounding sand is a good kung fu training technique.

ciscovpn said:   Can you provide info on the buyer's agent? I will like to use her in the future. Seems she is very active and protects the interest of the buyer. I am used to buyer agents who do no work and only protect the interest of sellers in order to get a sale (and commission) completed.

I'd be glad to if you PM me.

To note - I have access to the MRIS in my area, and on average, this agent's buyers overpay for homes (as a % of original listing price and of current listing price) compared to other agents from the same brokerage and in the same area, while this agent's sellers do equally worse compared to the norm.

This agent has a clear trend - did fine when a 3 year old could sell homes through 2006, and the hardnosed tactics worked from 2007-2009ish, and from there it's been downhill but the agent hasn't realized it yet (except for the smaller commission check and fewer customers).

The walkthrough before closing was uneventful, but the house isn't empty yet.

Closing went mostly fine until I unloaded on the buyer's agent. I got the distinct impression the buyers were fatigued with this agent as well so I don't expect the drama to linger after they take possession.

Super agent spent every syllable when paperwork wasn't being signed telling everyone how she sold Jesus his first hut, then sold the hut for Jesus was he ready to start his teachings, and wouldn't you know it super agent helped Jesus buy the hut back at 50% of what he sold it for when the market cooled down just a few years later. Super agent also wanted me to know her husband built a "six figure man cave" in their enclave that I need to see, and then she tried to impress me with a story I couldn't follow about selling a home to an executive from a tech company, as if large tech companies only have 2 or 3 executives and I spend my days memorizing their biographies because I work in software.

I am usually fairly restrained but when super agent said her experience in managing HOAs went back a long time and she wanted me to know "damn well this violation could affect her buyers next year" I told her I wasn't aware there were HOAs for cave dwellings. I said "if this stupid plate is giving you heartburn in the chamber where your organs were when you were a human, take the f------ commission I'm paying you and give your buyers the f------ $150 it would cost a professional to make the f------ repair."

I have never been both so angry and so pleased with myself for having a witty comeback without resorting to threats about ruining her career my hands were shaking. I was muzzled by my agent and my wife and forced to sit in another room alone where a woman from the title company brought me pages to sign as they were ready. I was forced to apologize and the agent said something about me being on my period but whatever.

The new owners take possession in 2 weeks, we have a final final walkthrough scheduled for then.

outtawhack said:   I was forced to apologize ...

After all this; why?

saladdin said:   outtawhack said:   ciscovpn said:   Can you provide info on the buyer's agent? I will like to use her in the future. Seems she is very active and protects the interest of the buyer. I am used to buyer agents who do no work and only protect the interest of sellers in order to get a sale (and commission) completed.

I'd be glad to if you PM me.

To note - I have access to the MRIS in my area, and on average, this agent's buyers overpay for homes (as a % of original listing price and of current listing price) compared to other agents from the same brokerage and in the same area, while this agent's sellers do equally worse compared to the norm.

This agent has a clear trend - did fine when a 3 year old could sell homes through 2006, and the hardnosed tactics worked from 2007-2009ish, and from there it's been downhill but the agent hasn't realized it yet (except for the smaller commission check and fewer customers).

The walkthrough before closing was uneventful, but the house isn't empty yet.

Closing went mostly fine until I unloaded on the buyer's agent. I got the distinct impression the buyers were fatigued with this agent as well so I don't expect the drama to linger after they take possession.

Super agent spent every syllable when paperwork wasn't being signed telling everyone how she sold Jesus his first hut, then sold the hut for Jesus was he ready to start his teachings, and wouldn't you know it super agent helped Jesus buy the hut back at 50% of what he sold it for when the market cooled down just a few years later. Super agent also wanted me to know her husband built a "six figure man cave" in their enclave that I need to see, and then she tried to impress me with a story I couldn't follow about selling a home to an executive from a tech company, as if large tech companies only have 2 or 3 executives and I spend my days memorizing their biographies because I work in software.

I am usually fairly restrained but when super agent said her experience in managing HOAs went back a long time and she wanted me to know "damn well this violation could affect her buyers next year" I told her I wasn't aware there were HOAs for cave dwellings. I said "if this stupid plate is giving you heartburn in the chamber where your organs were when you were a human, take the f------ commission I'm paying you and give your buyers the f------ $150 it would cost a professional to make the f------ repair."

I have never been both so angry and so pleased with myself for having a witty comeback without resorting to threats about ruining her career my hands were shaking. I was muzzled by my agent and my wife and forced to sit in another room alone where a woman from the title company brought me pages to sign as they were ready. I was forced to apologize and the agent said something about me being on my period but whatever.

The new owners take possession in 2 weeks, we have a final final walkthrough scheduled for then.

Forced to sit alone in another room and apologize? What are you, 12?

If telling off that agent one time at the closing is your way of standing up for your family, you are doomed. I guess "Head of Household" is just an IRS tax return term.

WTF? I would have told her I was ready to apologize and unloaded again on her.

If it weren't one of our own getting raped, even after the abuse has been pointed out to him, then this would be an amusing story. Otherwise, just pitiful.

MilleniumBuc said:   outtawhack said:   ciscovpn said:   Can you provide info on the buyer's agent? I will like to use her in the future. Seems she is very active and protects the interest of the buyer. I am used to buyer agents who do no work and only protect the interest of sellers in order to get a sale (and commission) completed.

 

I am usually fairly restrained but when super agent said her experience in managing HOAs went back a long time and she wanted me to know "damn well this violation could affect her buyers next year" I told her I wasn't aware there were HOAs for cave dwellings. I said "if this stupid plate is giving you heartburn in the chamber where your organs were when you were a human, take the f------ commission I'm paying you and give your buyers the f------ $150 it would cost a professional to make the f------ repair."


George? George Constanza? Did you tell her about the Jerk Store?

Nice

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