I have accounts in Fidelity and Schwab. Can I buy Facebook common shares at its IPO on Thursday 17th market opening? For example, can I setup a limit-order Tuesday/Wedneday so automatically my order get filled at IPO on Thursday? What is the ticker?
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STEALfromCAGgive2FW
Senior Member - 1K
posted: May. 7, 2012 @ 9:51p
Due to Facebook's support of CISPA, I wont be investing in the IPO. Sorry I couldnt be of more help.
fw101
Silly Member
posted: May. 7, 2012 @ 9:58p
bandyopa said: I have accounts in Fidelity and Schwab. Can I buy Facebook common shares at its IPO on Thursday 17th market opening? For example, can I setup a limit-order Tuesday/Wedneday so automatically my order get filled at IPO on Thursday? What is the ticker?
Thanks, Tintin Ask in this thread.You can set up a limit order but there is no guarantee it will fill. Of course if you set the limit price sufficiently high, it will.
You need $500k in assets to buy IPOs with Fidelity. Schwab hasn't decided yet.
vegas4x4
Senior Member
posted: May. 7, 2012 @ 10:05p
The short answer is no you can't do that. See the Facebook IPO thread. As an example, LNKD had an IPO price of $45, the opening price on trading day (the cheapest you could have gotten it for on the open market) was $83.
vegas4x4
Senior Member
posted: May. 7, 2012 @ 10:07p
Reading the article it sounds like you could get in with E-Trade without needing 500k
That said, I'm sure demand will far exceed supply.
You need $500k in assets to buy IPOs with Fidelity. Schwab hasn't decided yet.
bandyopa
Ancient Member
posted: May. 7, 2012 @ 10:34p
Thanks everyone. Looks like this is pretty hard for individuals. VERY SAD!
fw101
Silly Member
posted: May. 7, 2012 @ 10:36p
bandyopa said: Thanks everyone. Looks like this is pretty hard for individuals. VERY SAD! Why is it sad?
qcumber98
Pickled
posted: May. 7, 2012 @ 10:44p
Look at these IPOs. With the exception of LinkedIn, those are some real reasons to be sad.
dynohanzhang
New Member
posted: May. 7, 2012 @ 10:48p
ticker is FB
SCSURFER
Tired Member
posted: May. 7, 2012 @ 11:26p
Without knowing the price (i.e valuation of the company) why would you want to? I think those that immediately buy shares in the open market will get their heads kicked in, as those that did with the recent tech IPO's. Some have recovered (LinkedIn, for example) but you could have bought them later much cheaper.
bandyopa
Ancient Member
posted: May. 7, 2012 @ 11:42p
SCSURFER said: Without knowing the price (i.e valuation of the company) why would you want to? I think those that immediately buy shares in the open market will get their heads kicked in, as those that did with the recent tech IPO's. Some have recovered (LinkedIn, for example) but you could have bought them later much cheaper.
Agree, but if you can get at IPO price then you can a 100%+ return in short term trade. People are franatic for these stock. Price will double or triple or go to 10 times in the next few days. Sell and be rich!
Tintin
bandyopa
Ancient Member
posted: May. 7, 2012 @ 11:44p
uutxs said: bandyopa said: Thanks everyone. Looks like this is pretty hard for individuals. VERY SAD! Why is it sad?
Because politicians and media says that they are looking after common people where in the reality is big institutions get all the favors. It take a simple bill in Congress to say that float will be available at IPO in the market - whoever gets it.
Tintin
ZenNUTS
Deez
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 12:15a
bandyopa said: Agree, but if you can get at IPO price then you can a 100%+ return in short term trade. People are franatic for these stock. Price will double or triple or go to 10 times in the next few days. Sell and be rich!
TintinQFF
fw101
Silly Member
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 12:30a
bandyopa said: uutxs said: bandyopa said: Thanks everyone. Looks like this is pretty hard for individuals. VERY SAD! Why is it sad?
Because politicians and media says that they are looking after common people where in the reality is big institutions get all the favors. It take a simple bill in Congress to say that float will be available at IPO in the market - whoever gets it. Yes, the government should legislate who gets shares from an IPO. And make people whole if the stock tanks.
qcumber98
Pickled
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 12:44a
How to buy Facebook at IPO: 1. Click the 'Like' button at the top of this Facebook page. 2. Forward this page to all of your Facebook friends. 3. Copy and paste this JavaScript code into the URL field of your browser. 4. PROFIT!!
neal126
Geeky member
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 7:48a
I just submitted my limit order on the ETrade platform. I when through a few questions to determine my investment style and the relevant disclosure questions. It took me less than 5 minutes. I put in a limit price of $35 (300 shares). fingers crossed. Her is the link to the ETrade IPO center IPO
EvilCapitalist
Broke Member
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 7:52a
SCSURFER said: Without knowing the price (i.e valuation of the company) why would you want to? I think those that immediately buy shares in the open market will get their heads kicked in, as those that did with the recent tech IPO's. Some have recovered (LinkedIn, for example) but you could have bought them later much cheaper.This won't be the case with FB. Getting placed into FB and dumping it at the open is a license to print money as the number of fools that would buy on the open market would outstrip supply of the shares.
EvilCapitalist
Broke Member
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 7:55a
bandyopa said: uutxs said: bandyopa said: Thanks everyone. Looks like this is pretty hard for individuals. VERY SAD! Why is it sad?
Because politicians and media says that they are looking after common people where in the reality is big institutions get all the favors. It take a simple bill in Congress to say that float will be available at IPO in the market - whoever gets it.
TintinConsidering none of the "common" people gave money to the start-ups with questionable or non-questionable prospects, I fail to see why the "common" people should get anything other than the crumbs when one of such start-ups makes it to the IPO round.
neal126 said: I just submitted my limit order on the ETrade platform. I when through a few questions to determine my investment style and the relevant disclosure questions. It took me less than 5 minutes. I put in a limit price of $35 (300 shares). fingers crossed. Her is the link to the ETrade IPO center IPO
Consider that $35 may not be filled unless the price declines from a higher open.
Yankees
Senior Member - 3K
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 9:18a
from Fidelity's IPO page (Login to their site -> Research -> IPOs)
Participation in traditional IPOs, and other equity public offerings through Fidelity is reserved for brokerage customers with a minimum of $500,000. Auction and OpenIPOs offered through Fidelity is reserved for brokerage customers with a minimum of $100,000 in certain assets held at Fidelity. Members of Premium Services or customers who have placed 36 or more stock, fixed income, or option trades in a rolling 12-month period are eligible for either traditional or auction based offerings. The $500,000 or $100,000 requirement and 36 trade thresholds will be determined weekly by aggregating all assets and trades in retail accounts which list the same name and Social Security number and are maintained by Fidelity Service Company, Inc. or Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC (excluding assets or trades maintained on behalf of any divisions of Fidelity Investments Institutional Services Company, such as 401(k) or 403(b) plan assets). Other assets may be included in the calculation at our discretion. In addition, an account in which an indication of interest is entered must have at least $2,000 in cash or fully paid securities.
and meeting those restrictions doesn't actually guarantee that you get shares. it just puts you on the list for expressing interest in getting shares. Fidelity then decides within that list who they want to allocate shares to (based on how much business the individuals in question contributes to Fido)
lokimoki said: Consider that $35 may not be filled unless the price declines from a higher open.
Actually your price (and number of shares) will have to be reconfirmed before the open. If your price is too low, the order will be cancelled.
Yankees
Senior Member - 3K
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 9:27a
neal126 said: I just submitted my limit order on the ETrade platform. I when through a few questions to determine my investment style and the relevant disclosure questions. It took me less than 5 minutes. I put in a limit price of $35 (300 shares). fingers crossed. Her is the link to the ETrade IPO center IPO
i may be getting confused, but i believe that if you put in a limit order, it may be for an order in the secondary market.
ipo shares should be allocated (i.e. no limit prices) as it should be the same price per class for the entire offering
Yankees said: neal126 said: I just submitted my limit order on the ETrade platform. I when through a few questions to determine my investment style and the relevant disclosure questions. It took me less than 5 minutes. I put in a limit price of $35 (300 shares). fingers crossed. Her is the link to the ETrade IPO center IPOi may be getting confused, but i believe that if you put in a limit order, it may be for an order in the secondary market. ipo shares should be allocated (i.e. no limit prices) as it should be the same price per class for the entire offering"Those who have a brokerage account with E*Trade can participate in a company's IPO, in this case Facebook, through the firm's IPO center. Users can place a so-called conditional offer by indicating how many shares of Facebook they would want to buy, and the maximum price per share they are willing to pay."
Yankees said: neal126 said: I just submitted my limit order on the ETrade platform. I when through a few questions to determine my investment style and the relevant disclosure questions. It took me less than 5 minutes. I put in a limit price of $35 (300 shares). fingers crossed. Her is the link to the ETrade IPO center IPO
i may be getting confused, but i believe that if you put in a limit order, it may be for an order in the secondary market.
ipo shares should be allocated (i.e. no limit prices) as it should be the same price per class for the entire offering
You have to "reconfirm" price and number of shares pre-market, and then hope to get allocated shares (also pre-market). If you are not allocated shares, the order cancels as unfilled.
jkimcpa
Senior Member - 5K
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 10:42a
BrianGa said: FW contrarian indicator says short Facebook IPO.BEEFjerKAY theorem in full force.
peas
Thrifty Member
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 3:01p
BrianGa said: FW contrarian indicator says short Facebook IPO.Hope you have enough to cover the short. It's gonna be a wild roller coaster ride and the shorts are going to get their clocks cleaned. It may dip (crash?) here & there but who knows what time frame it will be til that happens.
Facebook hasn't even begun to monetize their mobile market and is doing sit downs with the Chinese (huge market) government to try and get unblocked and enter their market. I can see some rise/fall from the initial IPO release but I see stock just going up once they start trying to be a company that makes money.
RidicuRuss
Wacky Member
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 5:33p
what is facebook?
AL369
Ancient Member
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 5:44p
IPO - Initial PUBLIC Offering What part of PUBLIC gets these share...banks and rich investors Load of BS facilitated by law
arktc
Nerdy Member
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 6:14p
AL369 said: IPO - Initial PUBLIC Offering What part of PUBLIC gets these share...banks and rich investors Load of BS facilitated by law
Let me start off by saying that I'm no fan of the finance industry and the way it screws the rest of us, but it depends on how you look at it. An IPO makes the shares available to the public. It means that the company has disclosed enough information to the public so that the public is at least minimally informed of material that might be necessary to make an investment decision.
In order to have an IPO, what you typically do is get investment banks to underwrite the shares in order to sell them to the public. Underwriting necessarily involves taking risk, and the specific risks depend on the underwriting agreement. Because of the risk, it's not completely unfair for the investment banks to make some profit from it, which they do, by taking a fee -- usually a percentage of the transaction. Because they are underwriting these shares, they offer the shares to their good customers, which usually happen to be more well-off customers.
During the dotcom boom, even less well-off customers could participate in IPOs. I know several that did. The underwriters and brokers often bullied these customers into holding the stock for X period of time and not dumping the shares immediately, or else they wouldn't get a chance to participate in other IPOs. Of course we all know what happened with all of that.
The entity who actually could get screwed by an IPO is the company itself. If the investment bank advises the company to grossly underprice the shares, someone other than the company gets the profit, and the company gets less money than it should have gotten. Yes, the company still raises the money it intended to raise, but it could have gotten more.
I would also point out that IPOs are a core traditional investment banking function, unlike some of the practices that occurred during the most recent boom/bust cycle.
jkimcpa
Senior Member - 5K
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 6:15p
AL369 said: IPO - Initial PUBLIC Offering What part of PUBLIC gets these share...banks and rich investors Load of BS facilitated by lawThose darn 1%ers getting in on Facebook at the discount price of $96 billion! SO UNFAIR!
robertw477
Senior Member - 2K
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 7:20p
bandyopa said: I have accounts in Fidelity and Schwab. Can I buy Facebook common shares at its IPO on Thursday 17th market opening? For example, can I setup a limit-order Tuesday/Wedneday so automatically my order get filled at IPO on Thursday? What is the ticker?
Thanks, Tintin
Doesnt look like you know a much about the stock market. Forget your limit order. LOL. It will blow by that you wont execute a single share. How in the world do you figure a limit order on IPO day? Wait a bit and you will be able to buy all you want. All the sharks will be traing the hell out of it on IPO day and the first week of release should be a roller coaster. Everyone is going to get rich on that one
Rob
vickh
Senior Member - 5K
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 8:03p
peas said: BrianGa said: FW contrarian indicator says short Facebook IPO.Hope you have enough to cover the short. It's gonna be a wild roller coaster ride and the shorts are going to get their clocks cleaned. It may dip (crash?) here & there but who knows what time frame it will be til that happens.
A. Are you being advised by a professional not affiliated with E*Trade regarding participating in the offering? Yes No
C. What time period will you use in evaluating the performance of your public offering investments? 5 - 10 years 3 - 5 years 1 - 3 years More than 30 days Less than 30 days
mistycoupon
Senior Member - 3K
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 9:01p
Don't worry it will be less in 2 weeks and then you can buy it.
vickh
Senior Member - 5K
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 9:20p
mistycoupon said: Don't worry it will be less in 2 weeks and then you can buy it.
too late for short term flippers
mistycoupon
Senior Member - 3K
posted: May. 8, 2012 @ 9:41p
vickh said: mistycoupon said: Don't worry it will be less in 2 weeks and then you can buy it.
too late for short term flippers
True.
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okwiater
Senior Member
posted: May. 22, 2012 @ 8:54p
peas said: mwa423 said: fish777 said: If I remember correctly, PALM IPO was highly anticipated. But since IPO, their price never got much higher?
I still remember the good old day of ICQ. Facebook is like ICQ/Groupon/etc which got many users since they were one of the first. Now ICQ is just one of the MANY instant messaging program. Right now FB offer nothing that can't be easily replace. Once Google, Microsoft, etc, introduced something similar and integrated them to Android/Gmail/Windows/hotmail/etc, people likely switch to use those instead.
Remember xanga, live journal, friendster and myspace? They're just waiting in the gutter for Facebook to join them when the next big thing catches.I don't really care where FB ends up, but I think you're oversimplifying the outcome. FB has managed to dig its claws deep into the internet by providing social infrastructure. See all those "Like" links on various news sites? Even the commenting infrastructure is provided by FB for many sites now. They have much more momentum and greater depth than the MySpaces of past. Where it'll all end up is anyone's guess. Agreed.
The real issue with FB isn't whether they'll be dead and forgotten in a year (they won't), but whether they'll figure out how to monetize all the eyeballs. Sticking ads next to every "Like" button or "Talkback" comments section is not going to work. Not to mention mobile. They've opened all their APIs to be accessible to myriad applications but it also makes it tough to control the ad experience, and hence the revenue.
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