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Just a quick question. My wife will be going to nursing school starting in August, and the total cost will be $30,000. Both of our credit scores are above 800. What is the best way to get financing? Student loans or keep revolving 0% credit card offers? What is the cheapest 5 year payoff you would suggest?


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You're not going to be able to keep 30k revolving at 0%. Do you own a home? a heloc might work.


Yeah, we own a home, but we bought in 2007 in peak of the market, so we have no equity. Where is the bet place to go for student loans? Currently, we have no CC debit, but we have $70k of available credit. Do banks and credit unions offer student loans?


Your schools financial aid office?


We tried the financial aide office, and they are wanting 6%. This seemed high to me.


Federal student loans won't cover this? You're sure that you will be able to pay this off in 5 years?


We do not qualify for any type of pell grant or anything. Currently, we are paying $700 a month for child care. When my wife is out of school, our daughter will be in kindergarten, and we will use those funds to pay off the debt.


I took two classes required for nurses in college. 98% of the students in the class were female and 95% of them were hawt.


Are student loan payments and/or interest deferred until after you graduate? If the interest is deferred, then that's the equivalent of your 0% AOR with no fee.


anthonyu said:   Are student loan payments and/or interest deferred until after you graduate? If the interest is deferred, then that's the equivalent of your 0% AOR with no fee. this is true. I'll have to check into this.mthanks!


Beyond financing, there are plenty of other options out there to reduce your cost. Have your wife look into available options for testing out of classes. It greatly depends on the school, but many accept CLEP and DANTES (or whatever they are called these days) exams and some even have their own exams. They aren't offered for every course, but it is quite useful to knock off a few of the general ed courses.


Is this a public school or for profits?


Start putting money away to pay those student loans. When she graduates and they start to accrue interest you will have much of it to pay off plus interest. Also there are programs for nurses in public service that may forgive student loans. Some areas have a surplus of nurses now but still plenty of jobs. As we baby boomers age the will be more demand. Wages are good.


qcumber98 said:   I took two classes required for nurses in college. 98% of the students in the class were female and 95% of them were hawt.
How come I only see less than 10% of nurses who are hawt.


Beauty school and medical assisting students (the ones going to a school advertised on tv) are hotter than nursing students ...used to ride the train to law school and they'd get off one stop before me.


Why 30k?

Why not go to community college?
At ~1000-1500 per semester, it'd be far cheaper.
Job prospects are also generally better than with the for profits.


JacksonX said:   Why 30k?

Why not go to community college?
At ~1000-1500 per semester, it'd be far cheaper.
Job prospects are also generally better than with the for profits.

I think most/all of the community colleges have wait lists and/or lottery type admission since there are many applicants. I heard that it can take several years to get into a community college RN program. There are some hospitals that have relationships with community colleges. You volunteer at the hospital and if they like you, they get you into the RN program, pay for it, and when you get your RN, you agree to work at the hospital for X years.


JasonTell7 said:   Just a quick question. My wife will be going to nursing school starting in August, and the total cost will be $30,000. Both of our credit scores are above 800. What is the best way to get financing? Student loans or keep revolving 0% credit card offers? What is the cheapest 5 year payoff you would suggest?

I do have to again question the wisdom of paying 30k for a nursing degree.

What kind of degree is it?
A.S.? B.S.N.? (god forbid) L.P.N.?

The job market isn't great for nurses right now.
There are cheaper ways to go. Even if CC has a waiting list, put your name on it, take your prerequisites at CC, and volunteer (kiss butt) at a local hospital.


Really ? I thought nurses were a high demand field


In the same boat. We didn't qualify for anything. Wife's school, thought local hospital, has a program if you qualify for loan forgiveness if you work for X years but they only forgive Fed loans through theFinAid office.

So, betting she'd qualify, we took the unsubsidised loans from school and filled in gaps with private loans from Discover. Payments are deferred until 6 months after graduation and it gives payment flexibility if we need. We currently pay extra but always at least the interest.

Went with Discover for their healthcare loans, interest tied to Prime, not LIBOR, and we're paying 4.25%. Sallie and the others wanted 6.75

Repayment is 15 years but we have scheduled to pay in 4-5


JasonTell7 said:   We do not qualify for any type of pell grant or anything. Currently, we are paying $700 a month for child care. When my wife is out of school, our daughter will be in kindergarten, and we will use those funds to pay off the debt.

I didn't say grants, I said federal student loans. If this is a program at a for-profit school your access to loans might be curtailed, I suppose. $700 a month is a good chunk, but how long will she be in school for, and how confident are you that you will have this extra cash when your wife starts working?

If it is a hospital nursing position she may have to work nights/weekends/etc. Your daughter is growing up, and kids are expensive. There are all sorts of unforeseen expenses that may come up. Keep that all in mind.


sensia said:   qcumber98 said:   I took two classes required for nurses in college. 98% of the students in the class were female and 95% of them were hawt.
How come I only see less than 10% of nurses who are hawt.
Have you tried beer goggles?


My wife just finished her ADN (Associates Degree in Nursing) and passed the boards in Feb. As you already know the ADN vs BSN won't matter as long as she passes boards to be an RN.

We took out Federal Student loans to cover the cost of the coursework (took 2.5 years including prerequisites as she already had a BS). We sent our daughter to daycare during it as well. It cost us ~20K in tuition/fees to get it done.

To everyone saying go to a CC, the rates aren't that much cheaper for nursing in most cases.

OP, you need to minimize the time your wife is incurring costs (school) and not producing income. I wouldn't reccomend any for profit schools, and I'd make sure she goes to a school that has a high pass rate on the NCLEX. For financing take the fed loans as the interest may be deferred and is tax deductible.


The lowest interest rate may not be the primary concern here. Is she planning to work at a non-profit hospital after graduating? If so, the best thing to do might be to get a Stafford loan, do income based repayments for 10 years, and then get the balance of the loan waived. You'd want to see what nursing salaries are like in your area to see if this makes sense in your situation.


SUCKISSTAPLES said:   Really ? I thought nurses were a high demand field

It was... And likely will be again.

Right now, there are tons of grads coming out with no jobs.
This is true on the east coast, and I believe it is largely nationwide except some undeserved areas.


JacksonX said:   SUCKISSTAPLES said:   Really ? I thought nurses were a high demand field

It was... And likely will be again.

Right now, there are tons of grads coming out with no jobs.
This is true on the east coast, and I believe it is largely nationwide except some undeserved areas.

The shortage/surplus is all geographic. Some areas are heavily recruiting for fresh grads nationwide, other areas have way to many available. The bad economy has kept a lot of retirement-eligible nurses at work vs what was originally expected in the early 2000s, when they finally retire it will be a very large/quick vacuum.


Nusring Shortage Map


Thanks for the shortage map.

I'm actually in an accelerated BSN program for ppl who have a previous Bachelors. Except for prerequisites, you can get an entire BSN in 15 months. (That's 63 credits in a little more time than most students take 25). Total cost of the BSN is around $16k.

Here's how to pay for school in order of awesomeness:

Category 1: Free Money w/o repayment. Included here are scholarships through a variety of places - your school's financial aid office, your department (school or nursing), community organizations. Also included here are Pell Grants.

Category 2: Borrowed Money w/o interest while in school. Namely >Subsidized Stafford/Federal Loans<. There's a limit on how much of this you can take out per year, scaled to your income.

Category 3: Normal loans. Unsubsidized Stafford loans will charge you 6.8% interest while in school. Heloc falls in here. etc etc.

One strategy I have thought of us maxing out your SUBSIDIZED federal loans while in school. Once graduated and after the 6 mo grace period, doing a series of 0% credit card balance transfers while paying it off.

I will stay tuned to this thread since I have skin in the game.


My wife did an ABSN (really hectic expect no family life) and is now doing her MSN, so I have a decent idea. If you are a citizen/permanent resident there are hospitals that would pay for your school provided that you work for them (sign a contract), this depends on where you are. Also if she's planning on getting an MSN a BSN would be way more helpful than a RN associate. Also an Accelerated BSN is faster than an associate degree however she would need to have a previous bachelors and get all the prerequisites in order for that. My 2 cents.


SUCKISSTAPLES said:   Beauty school and medical assisting students (the ones going to a school advertised on tv) are hotter than nursing students ...used to ride the train to law school and they'd get off one stop before me.

Just wanted to give you props for getting them off before your stop. If they weren't getting off until after, that sounds like it would have been a missed opportunity.


Depending on your area the local hospitals might have an affiliated nursing school, in exchange for 5 years of work there they will cover some of the costs. My wife did that, however, she was locked into a hospital that paid less per hour than the 2 others in the area for 5 years, she ended up on 3rd shift and working weekends alot. She went back and got her master's and is no a FNP working in a private office. Looking back, we probably would have been better paying for the school ourselves so she could have gone and worked wherever she wanted when she was done.


Bookmark.


In answer to some of your questions, it is a private university, and that is one of the reasons the cost is so expensive. Alot of the Universities/Colleges around here have a waiting period if you have less than a 4.0. My wife has a 3.2. She HATES her job right now, and she will not really make much more as a nurse, but she will be much happier, so that is why we are doing it. I will keep everyone updated on what we decide to do. We are going to call Sallie Mae later this week to see what they have to offer.


Keep in mind, even though a school might have a very high nclex pass rate, the failure rate for their students *before* they graduate could be extreme.
My nursing school failed about 30% of its students every semester. If you made it through school, the nclex was cake.

Nursing school is no place for wimps.


alchemist said:   My wife just finished her ADN (Associates Degree in Nursing) and passed the boards in Feb. As you already know the ADN vs BSN won't matter as long as she passes boards to be an RN.

They are not the same. Many hospitals already are not hiring those with 2 year degrees, and more are sure to follow soon. Many hospitals are also making 2 year nurses get their 4 year by X date or they will be terminated.


JasonTell7 said:   In answer to some of your questions, it is a private university, and that is one of the reasons the cost is so expensive. Alot of the Universities/Colleges around here have a waiting period if you have less than a 4.0. My wife has a 3.2. She HATES her job right now, and she will not really make much more as a nurse, but she will be much happier, so that is why we are doing it..
Changing bedpans will make her happy?


kwest said:   SUCKISSTAPLES said:   Beauty school and medical assisting students (the ones going to a school advertised on tv) are hotter than nursing students ...used to ride the train to law school and they'd get off one stop before me.

Just wanted to give you props for getting them off before your stop. If they weren't getting off until after, that sounds like it would have been a missed opportunity.

You have a sick and twisted mind.

Who taught you such things ? this is a finance forum , not a place to try out filthy jokes


SUCKISSTAPLES said:   JasonTell7 said:   In answer to some of your questions, it is a private university, and that is one of the reasons the cost is so expensive. Alot of the Universities/Colleges around here have a waiting period if you have less than a 4.0. My wife has a 3.2. She HATES her job right now, and she will not really make much more as a nurse, but she will be much happier, so that is why we are doing it..
Changing bedpans will make her happy?

She just has a good heart, and wants to help people. I couldn't do it, but if it makes her happy, I'm there to support her.


KatoKrazy said:   alchemist said:   My wife just finished her ADN (Associates Degree in Nursing) and passed the boards in Feb. As you already know the ADN vs BSN won't matter as long as she passes boards to be an RN.


They are not the same. Many hospitals already are not hiring those with 2 year degrees, and more are sure to follow soon. Many hospitals are also making 2 year nurses get their 4 year by X date or they will be terminated.

*some* hospitals will only hire RN's with a bsn, but that does not mean that an RN won't be employable at all. In my area, there are some hospitals that require bsn-RN's, and other hospitals where Lpn's still work the floor. The difference in pay in my area is only about a buck an hour, and for licensing purposes an RN is an RN.

Fwiw, an associates in nursing isn't a "2 year degree" in the real world. If you can get one in 3 years, you're doing good.


I'm a nurse and I can tell you how to save some money: Don't do it!!


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Also, you have to compare nursing with other professions. There are 3 million RN's in the US. In a so-so labor market there's a lot more spots to shoot for.




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