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Curiosity got the best of me and I wanted to see what my actual pay-off statement would look like (vs simply my principal balance). I really have no plans on doing an actual pay-off, but I requested the quote anyways.

I put a random date in the future and it gave me the numbers and included the additional daily interest I would pay if I did not make the pay-off during that specified date.

This got me a bit concerned - is this Pay-Off Statement a commitment for me to actually do a pay-off? Or can I just use that Pay-Off Statement as inquiry-only information and continue my regular mortgage payments with business-as-usual?


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Business as usual. Be careful though, I believe some servicers charge a fee for requesting a payoff.


BingBlangBlaow said:   Business as usual. Be careful though, I believe some servicers charge a fee for requesting a payoff.

So there is a potential fee for simply requesting a Pay-Off Statement?!!!!

Well this is definitely something I need to be careful about then.

However, when I looked at the statement I requested - the only "Other Fee" I saw listed was a Recording Fee (which I guess is normal). It didn't show any "Pay-Off Statement" fee or any other fees of any sort. So I guess I am in the clear?


If you are not planning to do an actual payoff or refi, you can calculate the payoff amount yourself by simply adding to the principal balance from last statement a prorated interest for the days since last statement. Should be easy to do this and will give you a figure close enough for all practical purposes (assuming no pre-payment penalty or other special situations).


uutxs said:   If you are not planning to do an actual payoff or refi, you can calculate the payoff amount yourself by simply adding to the principal balance from last statement a prorated interest for the days since last statement. Should be easy to do this and will give you a figure close enough for all practical purposes (assuming no pre-payment penalty or other special situations).

Yeah - I know about that. I just wanted to get something straight from the mortgage lender (aka the Horse's Mouth.) But this now really does disturb me about this potential fee that could get tacked on just for inquiring about this.

Since my payoff statement as of right now doesn't show this - it means then that I didn't get charged a fee for doing this right? How can I be sure? Will this fee show up in my upcoming monthly mortgage statement or is it hidden somewhere I can't conveniently see?


You should be fine. My lender does not charge a fee, but I've heard others do. I would assume you would have been told about it when requesting the payoff. The recording fee is normal as they would have to record a satisfaction if you did in fact pay off the loan.


When it came to paying off my house recently, Chase actually had an automated system to tell me my payoff amount (no fee). If I would have been subject to a fee I'd have just overpaid by a couple-hundred as I'd have to deal with depositing a check anyway for the escrow balance they carried. There was a different address I had to mail my payoff to, but I suspect it'd have worked if I just mailed it to the regular address too.


proxy101 said:   But this now really does disturb me about this potential fee that could get tacked on just for inquiring about this.

Since my payoff statement as of right now doesn't show this - it means then that I didn't get charged a fee for doing this right? How can I be sure? Will this fee show up in my upcoming monthly mortgage statement or is it hidden somewhere I can't conveniently see?

As stated by others, your bank likely doesnt/didnt charge you for the pay-off inquiry.
In any case, Relax. You have already done what you had to. If a charge shows up later, you can deal with it then. This is not worth a thread in FWF, much less something to be disturbed about.


Thank you all for the responses - I guess any potential fees that will occur - I will eventually see it in a future monthly statement - so if this fee does come (if at all) - I'll find it out sooner or later...

It seems these days you can't be too careful with banks trying to nickel-and-dime all its customers... In the end - it's hard not to be cynical about all of this - but c'est la vie...


What bank is it? This would be a really simple question to answer if you told us that rather than all this very unlikely speculation and worrying...


nullterm said:   What bank is it? This would be a really simple question to answer if you told us that rather than all this very unlikely speculation and worrying...

Sorry - should have stated that earlier - it's with Wells Fargo.


There should be a recording fee if you actually do the payoff (usually $100-$200), and a $10 fee if Wells Fargo has to fax a payoff statement somewhere. Finding out your payoff amount online is free.

This is all secondhand, but I feel that it is very accurate.


proxy101 said:   nullterm said:   What bank is it? This would be a really simple question to answer if you told us that rather than all this very unlikely speculation and worrying...

Sorry - should have stated that earlier - it's with Wells Fargo.

There shouldn't be a fee for just requesting a pay off statement from Wells Fargo online. I did this a couple times as I was thinking of refi.


It depends , loans get sold and servicing transferee all the time. Some wf customers will get hit with a payoff statement fee while others won't

Op don't worry about it . But also don't request new payoff statements to be mailed to you all the time just bc you can - sometimes the fee doesn't appear on your monthly statement but they add these fees in a separate account and ask you to pay later


SUCKISSTAPLES said:   It depends , loans get sold and servicing transferee all the time. Some wf customers will get hit with a payoff statement fee while others won't

sometimes the fee doesn't appear on your monthly statement but they add these fees in a separate account and ask you to pay later

Sorry - I'm getting confused...

What "separate account" are you talking about? And why wouldn't it show up in a future monthly statement? Aren't all misc. fees (including stuff like prepayment penalties) suppose to eventually show up in a monthly mortgage statement? Also - doesn't the mortgage Pay-Off Statement itself signify ALL the items due (so ALL the items should have been settled and listed right on the statement itself - including the Pay-Off Statement Fee item?)

I hope what you are saying isn't true - cause Banks shouldn't be hiding stuff like this from its customers...


Chase does not charge a fee for a verbal payoff amount (you can even get one free from their automated phone system), but they do charge a $50 fee for a faxed payoff amount form that your new lender will need when a refi occurs. They know they've got you and I'm sure $50 exceeds their actual cost by about $49.00+. The cost is usually rolled into your closing costs of the refi.




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