Online Gambling in USA

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Back in college me and some guys and a couple of hot chicks started this card counting club. On weekends we would fly to Vegas and play black jack using a team formula. We had all kinds of secret codes that...

Oh wait, never mind that was a movie.

ceobeaver said:   
Wow... can you tell I haven't seen the inside of a casino in about 10 years? Geez pretty awful. I'll just go back to my corner now.


Be sure that if you get peer pressured into going that you take a refresher. NBD. It'd all come back pretty quick.

$1 train slots at the cal-neva. Drink tokes and good times.

NJ is in the process of legalizing online poker. Veto deadline is Feb 7th.

http://pokerfuse.com/news/law-and-regulation/governor-chris-chri...

BradisBrad said:   grex23 said:   Just go to one of the casinos in the USA if you want to gamble in the USA. Anyone surely can gamble freely at their own will at any one of the Casinos all over.

The casinos won't let me play with my pants off in a recliner. This can only be done at home.


If you bet sufficiently high, they will

ryanstruve said:   Betting on the ponies is fully legal online too, iirc.

except where I live

Online gambling is NOT illegal in the United States at the federal level. It is only illegal if your state has a ban on it. Transferring money for online gambling is not illegal, either (again, unless your state bans it). If you don't believe me, read the actual law, or follow the advice of arguably the premier gaming-law attorney in the US:

http://www.gamblingandthelaw.com/columns/144-what-the-proposed-u...

GreyRabbit said:   BradisBrad said:   grex23 said:   Just go to one of the casinos in the USA if you want to gamble in the USA. Anyone surely can gamble freely at their own will at any one of the Casinos all over.

The casinos won't let me play with my pants off in a recliner. This can only be done at home.


If you bet sufficiently high, they will


That's true. In Vegas, they can set up a table in your room if you're worth it.

http://www.citizenlink.com/2011/05/16/the-poker-joker-%E2%80%9Cs...

When groups like Focus on the Family put out ridiculous articles like this, it is no wonder things like poker get a bad rep.

"Judges should laugh these “poker-is-a-skill” jokers out courtrooms, because any variation of poker contains an element of chance. Unless the rules are changed, poker inevitably – and predominantly – is a game of chance." - No, people should laugh at your complete garbage articles that are inevitably - and predominantly - articles filled with lies.

This author, Chad Hills, was also on Stossel for an entire show on online gambling. His live debate skills are as bad as his articles.

ungar2000 said:   http://www.citizenlink.com/2011/05/16/the-poker-joker-%E2%80%9Cs...

When groups like Focus on the Family put out ridiculous articles like this, it is no wonder things like poker get a bad rep.

"Judges should laugh these “poker-is-a-skill” jokers out courtrooms, because any variation of poker contains an element of chance. Unless the rules are changed, poker inevitably – and predominantly – is a game of chance." - No, people should laugh at your complete garbage articles that are inevitably - and predominantly - articles filled with lies.

This author, Chad Hills, was also on Stossel for an entire show on online gambling. His live debate skills are as bad as his articles.


It's a game of skill and chance. It's clearly not the same as chess, and not the same as craps or roulette.

"I suppose if "skill" is defined as having completed 7th grade math (probability calculations), then winning poker could have a percent of skill, but this is basic math that most every graduate of middle school has obtained. There's actually much more strategy and "skill" in playing - and winning - Monopoly. Skip-Bo takes utilizes more math "skill" than poker"

Look at the comments section in that article. There are plenty of funny little quotes like this.

valueinvestor said:   ungar2000 said:   http://www.citizenlink.com/2011/05/16/the-poker-joker-%E2%80%9Cs...

When groups like Focus on the Family put out ridiculous articles like this, it is no wonder things like poker get a bad rep.

"Judges should laugh these “poker-is-a-skill” jokers out courtrooms, because any variation of poker contains an element of chance. Unless the rules are changed, poker inevitably – and predominantly – is a game of chance." - No, people should laugh at your complete garbage articles that are inevitably - and predominantly - articles filled with lies.

This author, Chad Hills, was also on Stossel for an entire show on online gambling. His live debate skills are as bad as his articles.


It's a game of skill and chance. It's clearly not the same as chess, and not the same as craps or roulette.


You're absolutely right, but saying it's a game of skill and chance is really true only in the short run. Because in the long run there is virtually no chance that a skilled player won't take all the money of a player without poker skills.

NJ Gov Christie did a conditional veto of the poker bill today (deadline was noon today). This is very good news, but not as great as him just signing it. It is looking like only minor changes with the bill will occur, so stocks like Caesars (CZR) are up big today on the news.

"With these goals in mind, I have concluded that now is the time for our State to move forward, again leading the way for the nation, by becoming one of the first States to permit Internet gaming. I authorize this step towards modernizing Atlantic City’s entertainment attractions cautiously, with carefully constructed limitations that will ensure the highest integrity and the most robust oversight." - Christie

So this is more of a "conditional approval" than a "conditional veto"

I own a sports and gambling forum, hence my name. Poker in the USA has been deemed a game of "skill" and thus isn't illegal. You've never read where the police or gov't has gone to a individuals home and arrested them for playing online poker. What you have read about is people that run illegal games from their homes or clubs. There's a huge difference betweeen the two.

Sports Gambling is only legal in Nevada and a few other states currently have the ability to offer it but don't. With that said, people all across the country have sportsbooks account offshore and bet on their computer, cell phone, tablet and every other portable internet device. Again like with poker, nbbody has been arrested at their home for betting a few bucks on a game. Again it's those are illegal bookies or run massive betting rings that the gov't goes after.

So if you are an average every day person, have no fear. I don't have to worry about big time crime syndicates reading this thread here.

Feel free to join the forum and if you have any questions on where you can open an account safely just drop me a PM, I'll be glad to help.

Again don't be scared to play some online poker or bet on a game, unless you are some huge illegal outfit, you have nothing to worry about.

Poker in the USA has been deemed a game of "skill" and thus isn't illegal

I understand it being a game of skill, but since it is legislated on the state level, how does one make a blanket statement like that?

The FullTiltPoker claims website finally went up today: http://www.fulltiltpokerclaims.com/

Also, http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/March13/FullTiltPo...

Good luck to all USA players! Hopefully this "Garden City Group" doesn't take a large piece of the pie from player funds.

There are also daily fantasy sports sites which bet on groups of players. http://www.cnbc.com/id/100545452

The House ALWAYS Wins...

Not if you always bet on black - Wesley Snipes



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