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Just curious if any fatwallet members actually "enjoy" working their career.  As in, even if they were 100% financially secure, and had no need for extra money, they would continue working?   I'm under the impression most members are on here for the sake of discussing financial decisions in order to work less in their life, but I could be wrong.

I'm often amazed and baffled at people I talk to who say they actually enjoy work, not just for the money.  That even if they won a multi million dollar jackpot, would continue working their job.  And I'm not talking Racecar drivers, Skydive instructors, Pornstars, etc.  I'm talking Heavy construction workers, Butchers, Laborers, Assembly line workers, and many other jobs that most people wouldn't even want to do for a day, let alone a career.  I've asked many, and the most common response is "What am I going to do with my time if I don't work?".  

I just don't understand it though, there are so many awesome things to see, places to go, talents to learn, things to experience, people/family to spend time with, hobbies to do, etc. You could never even do them all even if you never worked a day in your life.  So why for example would the laborer prefer to jackhammer concrete than go scuba diving in the tropics, if money were no object?

If anyone does enjoy working like this, could you explain it to me in a way I can understand?  Because right now, I cannot even wrap my head around the concept, but I'm so curious to understand.
 

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I've rarely seen or heard of anyone say that they "love" their job. "Enjoy" their job are those that usually have something that can be challenging, yet rewarding. I have many friends and family members that hate their jobs but won't leave because of benefits or their yearly compensation. I try to find a good balance between a job that is rewarding but also allows me to have a comfortable living which includes flexible schedules and lots of vacation time to spend with family and friends.

I love my job (air traffic control) and I'll do it until I'm forced out at age 56.  It would take a lot of money to consider myself rich, but if I were rich I might like to work part time but I certainly wouldn't quit.

I probably wouldn't work if I was totally secure, but until then I'll keep doing what I am doing. I see people on disability all the time who do not have disabling conditions and I've concluded that idleness contributes to a crappy quality of life.

Yes. I have met people who "retired" and enjoyed it for the first month, then went stir-crazy. I hope never to be in their shoes, so I am still looking for my calling.

I love what I do. I'd do it if I was a multi-millionaire! I am a simple house painter. I'd do it for free. I also buy sad, run down houses and make them like new again. My income is so small it's laughable but I live very simply and I am stress free and happy. I hope to die while I am still on the job. Retire, no way! To answer your question, for me it's the sense of satisfaction and accomplishment when I step back from a job.  In my youth I travelled quite a bit and saw most of the USA some of Canada, Mexico and the Bahamas.  It was fun but I prefer not being idle.

cajundavid said:   I love what I do. I'd do it if I was a multi-millionaire! I am a simple house painter. I'd do it for free. e.
I need my house painted.
Wanna trade a Free flight and room , and awesome financial tips from me in SF in exchange for paint ?

Sounds tempting as I love to do big painted ladies with 4, 5 or 6 colors but I stay booked solid for months in advance. I have bookings for next May and June already but thanks! And my poor old, uneducated grandpa taught me all the financial advice I need. He taught me not to ever waste a cent and and always save. That advice has served me well.

I usually start getting nervous every sunday evening...so no, I don't really enjoy my job...

I enjoy teaching human sexuality, so I'd probably do it once a year for free if I were rich - but otherwise, I'd be visiting the 7 continents and homeschooling my kids if I won the lottery.

I've never had an orgasm at work. Is this normal?

Many of my co workers have retired and are back in a freelance capacity.
Nothing like working a live TV show for getting the blood pressure up.

On some music events, depending on the act, yes they would do it for free.

cajundavid said:   Sounds tempting as I love to do big painted ladies with 4, 5 or 6 colors but I stay booked solid for months in advance. I have bookings for next May and June already but thanks! And my poor old, uneducated grandpa taught me all the financial advice I need. He taught me not to ever waste a cent and and always save. That advice has served me well.
  If you are that busy you should raise your prices.

Dentist here. Love working. I even volunteer on free weekends because I enjoy the way my career makes me feel. If 100% financially secure, I'd probably travel more. But I'd still work plenty. From my experience: a fulfilling and rewarding job shouldn't be a burden. It should contribute towards your happiness. Slickdeals/fatwallet give me a sense of self-accomplishment because they help me to get the best price on things I want. This way, I can make the best use of my money, and the savings can pay for things I can't be frugal with -- such as my family's needs, vacation expenses, mortgage/loans, etc.

I think most enjoy the actual work they do. However, for those who work in larger companies, I think most don't like the other things that come with that (office politics, internal infighting, etc.). I love my work, but don't like dealing with other issues I've mentioned. I find those things frustrating...

cajundavid said:   I love what I do. I'd do it if I was a multi-millionaire! I am a simple house painter. I'd do it for free. I live very simply and I am stress free and happy. I hope to die while I am still on the job. Retire, no way!
 

  I should breath more paint fumes, maybe I'll be as happy as this guy.

I love my job. Even I hit the lotto I would still work. I am at a financial company and wouldn't trade it.

I love my job when I am productive. However, working can become excruciating when I am unable to be productive due to interruption, emergencies, etc.

I enjoy it when I work for myself.

I work in law enforcement in NYState for 26 years and retire in Aug.14. I USED to love the job but not now. Too much politics and you I can not change a thing about the job. So I quietly count the days. It's funny watching the rookies come aboard after all the training (5 months) and testing and then come into the real world where they think they will make a difference, they can't. The system is too ingrained, so they learn fast. I do have a PT job in my town at the USPS on my days off. I already have the job 4 days/week starting next AUG, as I have worked just about every day since I graduated college in the 70's. Hopefully the post office will still be there. But sad to say, I have become a clock watcher and do not do anything that is extra. Just the minimum required to get home with all my parts each PM. Mainly- the benefits are great. Show me an officer in any of the 50 states that has worked on the job for over 20 years, and I'll show you a man or woman nearing a breaking point. BTW, in my down time on the job, I learned all I could from FWF on CC churning and actually made 1000's doing it. It opened a whole new world. I spend at least 1 hour in downtime per day researching the CC forums and when home, another hour organizing the CC.(which to use where/ Bonus rules/spending requirements/ applying/etc. This IS a PT job.

This is probably going to go over poorly but oh well.

Most people here are probably thinking "wow that is great so many people enjoy their job so much."  To me it is extremely sad.  If the day comes when work comes within 100x as enjoyable as my personal life that is it for me.  It is pretty sad when you would rather look in someone's mouth, or pour over financial data, or direct airplanes, etc. instead of doing the things that you do in your personal life.  I work for the money pure and simple.  When the day comes that I don't need the money (to do all the things that I enjoy in my personal life) then I will spend every waking second doing those things. 

 

when work comes within 100x as enjoyable as my personal life that is it for me. It is pretty sad when you would rather look in someone's mouth, or pour over financial data, or direct airplanes, etc. instead of doing the things that you do in your personal life. I work for the money pure and simple. When the day comes that I don't need the money (to do all the things that I enjoy in my personal life) then I will spend every waking second doing those things.

But someone has to be a dentist/police officer/ garbage man, etc. The day will never come when work is as great as SOME people's personal life. Get used to it

A dentist/police officer/ garbage man is far more valuable and doing greater service than someone idling away their time. And the idler benefits from their services and wouldn't enjoy his idleness without their services.  They are part of the structure of society which allows leisure time.

mikef07 said:     It is pretty sad when you would rather look in someone's mouth, or pour over financial data, or direct airplanes, etc. instead of doing the things that you do in your personal life.  

 

  But isn't that the same as saying they are getting paid to do what they enjoy doing, or what they would do anyways if it wasn't "work"? 

I enjoy what I do except for

1) the high standards for deliverable. it's sort of like saying I enjoy reading, but don't like taking the book test or discussing it with a intellectual study group.
2) 8-5 "must be in office"

I'm a high school math teacher and I truly enjoy my job. I'm not saying I enjoy the BS that comes along with teaching in a public school but I love working with the kids.
If I won the lotto I would def stay working with kids in some capacity. I would do big brother program or mentor some at risk kids. I feel sorry for anyone who hates their job. I have the magical position of being left alone to teach my students. One of the reasons is I am pretty damn good. secondarily I don't give a damn about keeping the job from a money perspective. I have rental houses and have no worries about finding a job to replace the money I make teaching.

I don't think I would still teach a full day if I won the lotto. I would def work with kids and try to help them be successful. so If the school let me do half days and/or I could figure out a tutoring/ mentoring program I would still do it. I get bored too damn easily.

Note: I don't have a family right now so I assume this would change some if/when I have kids and wife.

rufflesinc said:   
mikef07 said:     It is pretty sad when you would rather look in someone's mouth, or pour over financial data, or direct airplanes, etc. instead of doing the things that you do in your personal life.  

 

  But isn't that the same as saying they are getting paid to do what they enjoy doing, or what they would do anyways if it wasn't "work"? 

I enjoy what I do except for

1) the high standards for deliverable. it's sort of like saying I enjoy reading, but don't like taking the book test or discussing it with a intellectual study group.
2) 8-5 "must be in office"

  Sur, but if looking in some strangers mouth is the most enjoyable thing you do in your life that is sad to me.  I enjoy my job relative to other jobs, but if that came close to the most enjoyable thing in my life I would not want to live.  Now if you enjoy playing a sport and get paid for that I understand that, or if you are a musician, actor, performer, etc.

mikef07 said:   
rufflesinc said:   
mikef07 said:     It is pretty sad when you would rather look in someone's mouth, or pour over financial data, or direct airplanes, etc. instead of doing the things that you do in your personal life.  

 

  But isn't that the same as saying they are getting paid to do what they enjoy doing, or what they would do anyways if it wasn't "work"? 

I enjoy what I do except for

1) the high standards for deliverable. it's sort of like saying I enjoy reading, but don't like taking the book test or discussing it with a intellectual study group.
2) 8-5 "must be in office"

  Sur, but if looking in some strangers mouth is the most enjoyable thing you do in your life that is sad to me.  I enjoy my job relative to other jobs, but if that came close to the most enjoyable thing in my life I would not want to live.  Now if you enjoy playing a sport and get paid for that I understand that, or if you are a musician, actor, performer, etc.

  Huh? A dentist is helping people far more than anything you have mentioned.  You seem really confused about what is valuable and important.

I like the work that I perform, I just wish at times that management would leave me alone and allow me to operate more independently.

I work in software development. If I won the lottery, I'd still create software, but I'd work on what I'd want to work on instead (and on my own schedule). So, yes, I do enjoy what I do.

Argyll said:   
mikef07 said:   
rufflesinc said:   
mikef07 said:     It is pretty sad when you would rather look in someone's mouth, or pour over financial data, or direct airplanes, etc. instead of doing the things that you do in your personal life.  

 

  But isn't that the same as saying they are getting paid to do what they enjoy doing, or what they would do anyways if it wasn't "work"? 

I enjoy what I do except for

1) the high standards for deliverable. it's sort of like saying I enjoy reading, but don't like taking the book test or discussing it with a intellectual study group.
2) 8-5 "must be in office"

  Sur, but if looking in some strangers mouth is the most enjoyable thing you do in your life that is sad to me.  I enjoy my job relative to other jobs, but if that came close to the most enjoyable thing in my life I would not want to live.  Now if you enjoy playing a sport and get paid for that I understand that, or if you are a musician, actor, performer, etc.

  Huh? A dentist is helping people far more than anything you have mentioned.  You seem really confused about what is valuable and important.

  Never said it wasn't valuable and important. It is.  Again if doing whatever it is most people do for work brings the most joy in their life then that (to me) is sad.  They have a really bad personal life if that is what brings the most joy.  Not trying to convince you that your job doesn't bring you the most satisfaction.  To me it just means you have a terrible personal life.  Sorry that is my opinion.

I have 5-8 people in my life that bring me more joy than any job could so that is always what I would do with my time.  If you don't have X amount of people that bring you exponentially more joy than a job does that is sad to me.  To try and convince me otherwise if pointless.  I am also not trying to convince anyone to change their mind.  It is what it is.

mikef07 said:   This is probably going to go over poorly but oh well.

Most people here are probably thinking "wow that is great so many people enjoy their job so much."  To me it is extremely sad.  If the day comes when work comes within 100x as enjoyable as my personal life that is it for me.  It is pretty sad when you would rather look in someone's mouth, or pour over financial data, or direct airplanes, etc. instead of doing the things that you do in your personal life.  I work for the money pure and simple.  When the day comes that I don't need the money (to do all the things that I enjoy in my personal life) then I will spend every waking second doing those things. 


 


It's kinda hard to read the fragmented sentences, so perhaps I'm misunderstanding you - but I think you're missing part of the picture.   Many people in this thread are lucky enough to be doing things they "enjoy in their personal life."  Many of them sound like they truly enjoy what they do - so much that would do the same, or similar job, without getting paid - i.e., volunteer to do about the same kind of thing.  They find it interesting and/or rewarding.  I'm an engineer, and if I was financially "set", I would likely still volunteer my time doing engineering of some sort (especially open source type stuff), and possibly volunteer tutoring math, programming, and engineering, and volunteer for Habitat for Humanity.  Are you saying that if you like it enough to do in your "personal life", you shouldn't get paid for it?

Marc

mrand said:   
mikef07 said:   This is probably going to go over poorly but oh well.

Most people here are probably thinking "wow that is great so many people enjoy their job so much."  To me it is extremely sad.  If the day comes when work comes within 100x as enjoyable as my personal life that is it for me.  It is pretty sad when you would rather look in someone's mouth, or pour over financial data, or direct airplanes, etc. instead of doing the things that you do in your personal life.  I work for the money pure and simple.  When the day comes that I don't need the money (to do all the things that I enjoy in my personal life) then I will spend every waking second doing those things. 


 


It's kinda hard to read the fragmented sentences, so perhaps I'm misunderstanding you - but I think you're missing part of the picture.   Many people in this thread are lucky enough to be doing things they "enjoy in their personal life."  Many of them sound like they truly enjoy what they do - so much that would do the same, or similar job, without getting paid - i.e., volunteer to do about the same kind of thing.  They find it interesting and/or rewarding.  I'm an engineer, and if I was financially "set", I would likely still volunteer my time doing engineering of some sort (especially open source type stuff), and possibly volunteer tutoring math, programming, and engineering, and volunteer for Habitat for Humanity.  Are you saying that if you like it enough to do in your "personal life", you shouldn't get paid for it?

Marc

  Not real hard to understand.  If what brings you the most joy in your life is looking into a strangers mouth, or guiding an airplane, or doing what I do for a living ( so you understand I am not putting down anyone's job), or working on a computer then that to me is sad.  If you don't think it is, so be it.  If you don't have a person or people in your life that bring you 100x more joy than engineering things, then sorry.  If you would rather do engineering stuff more than spending time with person x doing leisurely things (whatever that may be) then that to me is sad.  Does that mean that one should not or would not volunteer to help others if they could afford to do so?  No I would volunteer to do some of those things since it is the right thing to do.  I also can appreciate the many people that would volunteer to do some of those things to help others, but if helping strangers brings them more joy than spending time with the x number of people close to them I find that sad.  While I know that isn't politically correct to say I am merely trying to be truthful.  If you don't feel the same way it is no skin off my back.  I am allowed to feel sad for things I see or hear about in people's lives.  

For example I enjoy spending time playing with my 21 month old now.  There is nothing else that comes close in the world regarding a stranger and/or a task that would bring me within 100x of that amount of joy.  If you don't have that then sorry.

I like parts of my job very much and I would say that I am happy with it. But would I quit it if I "won the lottery" or came into big money? Absolutely. I'd much rather travel more, volunteer more, and do whatever I feel like rather than serve someone else's agenda.

I don't care what all of you say. I like my job but if I won a the lottery, I am quitting. There is more than enough work in my life already let alone "working 8-5" Mon-Fri. There's housework, there's working on the cars, there's working on the rental properties. It's all work work work. It never ends. You should see my to-do list. Might as well tack world peace and world hunger to it because I'll never get to it all. I think people who love their jobs are the ones who can't find anything else better to do during their time off. Things like helping others, volunteering, mentoring. I'm so busy I don't even have time to take a .... anymore.

I absolutely love, LOVE going to work.  I can't wait until I wake up in the morning to go to work, and often times, I want to stay and work longer.

Sometimes I wish I could work double the hours.

If I won a $100M lottery tomorrow, I would work even harder, as that would open up some very interesting possibilities for me.

Edited to add more:

I don't work more than I think I should because of many reasons:

- my job has to do with sitting at / standing at desk, looking at the computer; that poses physical limitations.  Also, working more than X hours a day, Y hours a week, and Z weeks consecutively results in various problems,
- I have mild back problems, which flare up when I spend too much time at desk,
- also, working too much with adequate breaks (evenings, weekends, vacation) results in less enjoyment in activities that I otherwise enjoy.  This can result in depression.

Now, here is why I would continue working if I won the lottery:

- work provides a lot of structure and purpose,
- work helps me feel satisfied, seeing my own accomplishments as a result of experimentation, research, and creativitity,
- working feeds a certain drive to win,
- my work environment is extremely pleasant: co-workers, type of duties I do, collaboration opportunities, and freedom I have.

I would not do what I do for free now, because I need the money, but if I wont the lottery, I would be willing to work for free, because with so much money, the marginal utility of making money would probably become zero, or negative, but marginal utilitiy from working would be extremely high because of other, non-monetary factors.





 

>> Huh? A dentist is helping people far more than anything you have mentioned. You seem really confused about what is valuable and important.

I think you've hit on something. Sure, if you work in sales or do a certain job because you "have to", as your income requirements demand it, so be it. 

I think there's another segment who can honestly say they enjoy the giving-back-to-society aspect of their job. Police, firemen, scientists developing a cure, physical therapists for the injured, missionaries,...and I'm sure the list goes on. 

I enjoy my job. It's my own version of 'protect and serve', and it suits me well. A couple of weeks ago, a lady bolted out of her chair to hug me for a breakthrough I made. Those moments matter, to someone, somewhere....daily.

I can't help but wonder, if paramedics were doing it 'just-for-the-money' and then...luck..lottlo...quit, how many of us would have lost those dear to us along the way? 
 
Stay productive, my friends..

SUCKISSTAPLES said:   
cajundavid said:   I love what I do. I'd do it if I was a multi-millionaire! I am a simple house painter. I'd do it for free. e.
I need my house painted.
Wanna trade a Free flight and room , and awesome financial tips from me in SF in exchange for paint ?

  
Damn SIS, you don't let a deal pass you on FWF! 

WHEN I was working, I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed helping people, I miss it so much. I would get so into what I was doing I would forget it was break time. My days flew by and before I knew it it would be time to go home. I can barely make it now and would love to be able to get back to it again.

What do you do now?

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chrsb, yeah that all sounds about right. I think it does also depend a lot on local market and union strength. My dads market scale hasn't even gone up 50% in the past 25 years. I just don't want people getting the idea that $100k incomes are normal.



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