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This thread's purpose is to consolidate discussion of all HELOCS and list current best rates and fees.

DEFINITION OF HELOCS- FW Member DaveHanson has posted an excellent definition of HELOCs, and how they differ from HELs, in the first post of this thread

As Deepgreenbank is now dead, I ask users to update the QUICKSUMMARY with the best current HELOC deals (especially since HELOC rates have gone up)

WHY GET A HELOC EVEN IF YOU DONT NEED ONE!
HELOCs have many advantages, even if left "untapped" and NEVER USED! some of these advantages are discussed in this thread:
Advantages of HELOCs


AND NOW FOR THE BEST HELOC DEALS (not in particular order)
see QUICKSUMMARY

Message edited by: SUCKISSTAPLES on 2007-04-26 05:29:38 CDT

Please try to organize by lowest rates

1. DCU - Two choices: Equity Line 1-2-3 Prime minus 1.23% (min balance $20k or $20/mo inactivity fee, 80% LTV); or Equity LinePLUS Prime minus 0.25% (no min balance or fee, 80% LTV), can take fixed-rate advances (eg 5-Yr at 1.00% below variable rate)

"*DCU offers Home Equity Lines of Credit in all States with the exception of Texas and Connecticut."

2. Navy FCU is offering a HELOC at 5.25% teaser rate (6 mos) on HELOC up to 90% LTV to $500,000

3. Spencer Savjngs Bank Heloc at Prime -1.5% up to 80% LTV. Only available in New Jersey. -- rate dropped to P - 1.5%, but good only until 3/24, and there is a floor of 6%.

4. Compass Bank

Possible to get Prime - 1.25% as a preferred member, otherwise standard is Prime - 1%. No closing costs with a 10K initial draw, $50/year fee. Preferred members have no closing costs/fees and no annual fee. 90% LTV for these rates.
https://www.compassbank.com/special/200705/home_equity/
Up to $200 visa gift card with initial draw of a certain amount:
https://www.compassbank.com/special/200703/giftcard_equity/

These rates are only available in Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, New Mexico and Texas.

5. HSBC
Prime -2.75% for the first 6 months
Prime -1% after
10 year draw.

6/08: cant find this in VA.
http://www.us.hsbc.com/1/2/3/personal/home-loans/home-equity/home-equity-rates

Line amount ($50,000 - $250,000) ($30,000 - $49,999) ($10,000 - $29,999)
P - 0.15%, P 0.47%, P 1.47%

6. Citibank

OFFER 1- Prime Minus .76% (currently 7.49% variable APR). Introductory Rate of Prime Minus 2.26% for Six Months (currently 5.99% variable APR) Citi HELOC offer

call 1-877-362-9100 Mention Offer Code CKD2 $50 annual fee.

OFFER 2 - Prime minus 1.01%, 7.24% with a variable APR. No charges but costs are added if closed within 36 months. $50 annual fee starting in 1 year. As low as 6.84% fixed

7. CHARTER ONE - Prime Minus 1.01% (with draw and bank account)

8. CITIZEN'S ADVANTAGE Prime - 1% for 80% LTV. (P-0.5 for 90% LTV). No closing fee, no annual fee, $350 early termination fee (< 3yrs). Appears to be a referral site for Charter One Bank.

>>As of a 12/11/06 phone call verify, Citizen's Adv does only FULL DOC LOANS. The no-doc loan product listed on the website is no longer. Still uses 50% front & back end debt ratio for "loanability."

- Charter One details 12/2006: 52% debt-to-income ratio used. P-1.0 @ 85% LTV with $25k draw, you can try getting it waived. Otherwise P-0.75 @ 85% LTV with no draw.

6/08: https://www.citizensadvantage.com/secure/apply_fhec.asp?ID=856786 Page cannot be displayed. i get the same thing with www.citizensadvantage.com. Is this bank still in business??


9. CitizensBank Prime minus 1.26 for life with >/=$150K, >/=$50K draw at close, autodebit from Circle/Circle Gold account. All sorts of terms & conditions for this rate. May be worth it. Promotion supposedly good until Oct 19. Found at http://www.citizensbank.com/promotions/homeequity/employeepricing.aspx

10. Secny FCU Fixed 2.99% for one year, prime 1 thereafter. Max line $75,000. No closing cost loans have a pre payment penalty. Field of membership limited.

11. Deepgreenbank.com -Prime minus 0.5% they are discussed here:

Deepgreenbank
They use an automated system to value your property, and if the "computerized system" runs into any snags, you are better off going with another lender. DEEPGREENBANK IS NOW CLOSED

12. Pentagon Federal Credit Union www.penfed.com
They also do non-owner occupied HELOCS.


13. Sovereign Bank
http://www.sovereignbank.com/retail/loans/

Rates may vary depending on state and whether autopay is selected. In California, their website lists prime mins 0.75% as the best rate with autopay

14. Wachovia
http://www.wachovia.com/personal/page/1,,325_493_597,00.html

Rates vary depending on loan size, possible prime rate HELOCs with no processing fee and prime rate - 0.75% HELOCs with a processing fee of about $100 for HELOCS $100K or above with a LTV of up to 90%. Smaller lines have higher rates. A 20 year draw period. $8,000 minimum line balance

15. Fremont Bank - www.fremontbank.com. Only available in Oregon, California, Nevada.

Rate is at Prime MINUS 1.5% if it replaces your 1st lien, and other Prime Minus options for 2nd lien position


other banks to check include CHARLES SCHWAB BANK and FIRST HORIZON EQUITY LENDING.

16. Nexity Bank teaser 1% for 3 months, then prime-.25%......easy app process.....dont need stellar credit to get this rate and teaser. 2% early termination fee (min $500) if closed before 2 years. (this fee is no longer waved even if house is sold.)

17. Amtrust Heloc

Prime - 1 @ 80% LTV & Prime - .5 at 90% LTV. 5.99% teaser rate for 3 months and no closing costs or fees if you take a $5,000 or more draw.

18. Third Federal Savings & Loan (to make Turtlebug happy)
Prime -1.01% on Balances of $50,000 and over
Prime -.51% on Balances under $50,000
NO Application Fee
NO Closing Cost
NO Doc/Stamp Tax
NO Origination Fee
NO Annual Fee
NO Pre-Payment Penalty
$200 gift card to Home Depot for opening or/and $225 cash (YMMV expires currently 02/28/08)
Guaranteed to be lowest available anywhere or they pay you $500.
Discussion thread is here TFSL Thread

9/08:
3rdFederal wants you to close any existing home equity lines (HEL) before they give you a Heloc.
sigh.. i have a 4.99% 10yr HEL with PenFed The HEL is my mortgage, and there's no way i'm closing my 4.99% rate.

Why would they want you to close a HEL before issuing a HELOC?

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Other lenders do exist, so shop around in case this gets dated.

Message edited by: rama13 on 2008-10-08 18:13:56 CDT
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First Union / Wachovia offers prime rate HELOCs with no processing fee and prime rate - 0.5% HELOCs with a processing fee of about $100 for HELOCS $100K or above with a LTV of up to 90%. Smaller lines have higher rates. I also have a free no minimum balance checking account at First Union that is devoid of fees because I have the HELOC. I don't know if First Union still gives the free checking accounts out, it was a special offer when I signed up at a branch near me.

Message edited by: jerseyjohn on 02/06/2003 10:23:18
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Thank-you to SIS for getting this needed thread going! You have been going the extra mile lately making FW finance an even more useful place, and I'm sure I'm not alone in appreciating it.

#5, PFCU, didn't have a regular thread dedicated to them. A few details: Prime for life, with a 2.9% fixed(!) intro rate for one year. 15 year draw period. No fees. They do verify income, and need decent but not superb credit (no cutoff score). You do pay for conventional appraisal if required--usually they can do automated appraisals, and you'd only want to do this if you want to challenge their number. Their website layout can be a little confusing, but terms here are pretty clear:

<< $5,000 to $100,000 for owner occupied equity lines up to 90% of fair market value (FMV); $5,000 to $50,000 for owner occupied equity lines 90.01% or greater of FMV. APR is 1% higher for lines of credit over 90% FMV. 2.9 % fixed APR for the first year, Prime plus 0% APR variable after that. Maximum APR is 18%. Introductory rate is for new lines of credit only. As long as you have available credit, you can draw on your line of credit at anytime during the 15-year term. Minimum payment may not repay principal which will result in balloon payment. >>

To join, you need to have a connection to the military or join a military support group (I qualified easily this way.)

I think that for many, the combination of no fees, a 15-year draw, 90% LTV, and a fixed 2.9% intro rate makes this the most compelling product out there. Their customer service is 24/7, and seems light years beyond someplace like DeepGreen. Sooner or later I will try them out, and report back. They are one of the only options out there for NON-owner occupied HELOCs.


Sovereign Bank will do prime minus .51%, last I checked, if 80% LTV or better. They require an appraisal if needed to support the amount of cash you want. Don't know too many details on this one.

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Can you make the link clickable? it will be convenient. thanks

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i will once i take the time to read about hyperlinking...the FAQ is a work in progress

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DaveHanson said:

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#5, PFCU, didn't have a regular thread dedicated to them. A few details: Prime for life, with a 2.9% fixed(!) intro rate for one year. 15 year draw period. No fees. They do verify income, and need decent but not superb credit (no cutoff score). You do pay for conventional appraisal if required--usually they can do automated appraisals, and you'd only want to do this if you want to challenge their number. Their website layout can be a little confusing, but terms here are pretty clear:

<< $5,000 to $100,000 for owner occupied equity lines up to 90% of fair market value (FMV); $5,000 to $50,000 for owner occupied equity lines 90.01% or greater of FMV. APR is 1% higher for lines of credit over 90% FMV. 2.9 % fixed APR for the first year, Prime plus 0% APR variable after that. Maximum APR is 18%. Introductory rate is for new lines of credit only. As long as you have available credit, you can draw on your line of credit at anytime during the 15-year term. Minimum payment may not repay principal which will result in balloon payment. >>

To join, you need to have a connection to the military or join a military support group (I qualified easily this way.)

I think that for many, the combination of no fees, a 15-year draw, 90% LTV, and a fixed 2.9% intro rate makes this the most compelling product out there. Their customer service is 24/7, and seems light years beyond someplace like DeepGreen. Sooner or later I will try them out, and report back. They are one of the only options out there for NON-owner occupied HELOCs.


Sovereign Bank will do prime minus .51%, last I checked, if 80% LTV or better. They require an appraisal if needed to support the amount of cash you want. Don't know too many details on this one.
>>

Do you know if you have to renew the membership in the support group each year to
stay a member of pfcu? Also the site shows the rate as 4.75%, but I thought prime
was 4.25? (looks like they put 4.25 in the smaller print... hmmm).

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Charter One Bank charterone.com
Home Equity Lines of Credit (HELOC)

89.99% LTV HELOC


Intro Rate 1.99% APR* for 4 Months

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Rate 4% (Prime minus 0.25% for life of line)
Requires $10,000 draw at closing, maximum APR of 16%.

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Terms 5-year draw period with interest only monthly payments. Balloon payment at maturity. No $100 annual fee for first 24 months and waived for each following year if the average outstanding balance for the immediately preceding 12 months is 20% or more of the current committed amount. Property insurance and flood insurance, if applicable, are required. New customers only. Offer is subject to change. Consult a tax advisor regarding deductibility of interest.

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Closing Cost No Closing Costs

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Additional Information Owner occupied, 1-4 family residences only. Minimum line $5,000. Maximum line $500,000.

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Non-Draw Pricing Option Without $10,000 draw at closing, pricing is based on line size as follows:

$5,000 - $24,999 5.00% (Prime + 0.75%)
$25,000 - $49,999 4.75% (Prime + 0.50%)
$50,000 + 4.25% (Prime + 0.00%)





99.99% LTV HELOC


Intro Rate 1.99% APR* for 4 Months

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Rate 6% (Prime + 1.75% for life of line)
Maximum APR of 16%

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Terms 5-year draw period with interest only monthly payments. Balloon payment at maturity. No $125 annual fee for first 12 months and waived for each following year if the average outstanding balance for the immediately preceding 12 months is 40% or more of the current committed amount. Property insurance and flood insurance, if applicable, are required. Offer is subject to change. Consult a tax advisor regarding deductibility of interest.

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Closing Cost No Closing Costs

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Additional Information Owner occupied, 1-4 family residences only. Minimum line $5,000. Maximum line $100,000.


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All rates as of 2/4/2003.
Prime 4.25 % as of 11/12/2002.
*The annual percentage rate (APR) may vary

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dbird, you don't...once you're in PFCU, you are in for life.

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bump for this useful thread, and an update: PFCU now does HELOCs to $200K

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DaveHanson,

Can you post the name and details (ie, cost) of the org you joined in order to get access to Pentagon Federal?

Thanks.

fitzkorn

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can you get heloc then refi.? or refi then get heloc?
right now i'm at 7.25% so i want to refinance
TIA

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Bump for great post and possible updates

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Was searching for the peoples bank cc website and found this site during the search. Looks like it's only for Connecticut residents.Peoples Bank Equity Credit Line


Lines above 50,000 qualify for prime - 1.00%. Here are some of the terms:

* Offer available for Connecticut homeowners only. The Annual Percentage Rate ("APR" is variable each month and will be established based on an Index equal to the Prime Rate as published in the Northeastern edition of The Wall Street Journal on the last business day before the start of each month's billing cycle. For approved line amounts of $50,000 or more your APR will be equal to the Index minus one percentage point (1.00%) and the APR as of 3/3/2003 is 3.25%. For approved line amounts less than $50,000, you may also qualify for this rate if your balance in use is $25,000 or more. If your approved line is less than $50,000 and your balance in use is less than $25,000 your APR will be equal to the Index plus one percentage point (1.00%) and the APR for these balances as of 3/3/2003 is 5.25%. The maximum APR is 17%. The minimum APR is 3%. Rates effective 3/3/2003 and are subject to change without notice.

Equity Credit Lines are available only for 1-4 family owner-occupied properties and approved condominiums located in Connecticut and are not available on cooperatives. This Equity Credit Line has a minimum line amount of $10,000 and a maximum line amount of $500,000. The allowable equity limits are as follows. For line requests of $10,000-$250,000 you can borrow up to 80% of the equity in your home (70% for 2-4 family homes and 65% for condominiums) less your current mortgage. For line requests of $250,001-$500,000 you can borrow up to 70% of the equity in your home (60% for 2-4 family homes and condominiums) less your current mortgage. Line requests that are over the allowable equity limit may be approved at People's discretion but will require the purchase of mortgage insurance. Property insurance is required and flood insurance may be required.

There is a $50 annual fee associated with this account, which is waived for Advantage Plus and Investor Plus account holders for the first year only. If you close your account within two years after the date of your closing, you must pay a prepayment fee of 1% of the approved line. Existing People's Equity Credit Line customers are not eligible for this offer. Other terms and conditions apply and other equity credit line programs are available.

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Suckisstaples,
Ive been meaning to ask you this for a long time. Where do you get your name?

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Maximus330I said:

<< Suckisstaples,
Ive been meaning to ask you this for a long time. Where do you get your name?
>>


Look at this thread.

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Haha, thats classic! Thanks Sueyko.

Message edited by: Maximus330I on 04/12/2003 14:22:03
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What about the tax aspect of HELOC? DeepGreen says that the interest is tax deductible in most cases. It then points readers to consult with their tax advisors.

My understanding is simply that: if you itemize, you get to deduct it. Is this correct?

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