The purpose of this thread is very narrow: To keep an up to date listing of the best online bank interest rates out there. I will keep the top posting updated when someone adds a posting to this thread of a change. The banks are posted in no particular order.
The only posts that should be in here are notices of changes in interest rates, new accounts that should be included, and bumps to keep it current. NO TEASER OR SPECIAL PROMO RATES PLEASE. Also, please take a look at the best rates going before you post. Posts that are not at least very close to the top rates will not be included.
ALSO, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT ONE OF THE BANKS LISTED HERE OR HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR TERMS I SUGGEST YOU LOOK HERE Online Banking Discussion Group
I also suggest you check out the exellent site put together by our own Markber, which is often updated quicker than this thread.ibankdesign.com
Presidential Bank 2.75% Checking (on first $25,000) $1,000 min balance. Direct deposit required. (was 3.00%, 7/4/03)
Nittany Bank 2.05% on balance over $2,500 in saving account, $100 min balance, must also have free checking for online access (was 2.25% 3/04)
Bank of Internet 2.11% Money Market (on first $25,000) $1,500 min (was 2.35% 4/15; 2.22 8/11; 2.21 1/19/04) 1.5% Boomer checking No min balance (Must be over 40 years old) (was 1.9% 4/15) (was 1.75% 4/15) 1.75% Senor Checking No min Balance (must be over 50 years old) (was 2.0% 4/15) (was 1.9% 4/30)
Union Federal Bank 2.15% High Yield Money Market Savings, $0.00 min Balance (was 2.36 % 6/03, 2.2% 3/04; 2.1% 9/1/04 )
ING Direct 2.25% Saving $1 min balance (Was 2.3% 4/03; 2.2% 5/03; 2.1% 6/03; 2.00% 7/03; 1.8% 8/11/03; 2.0% 6/04; 2.1% 8/04; 2.20 11/18/04)
MetLife Bank 2.15% APY on at least $5,000 (2.15% 6/30/03; 2.10 8/11/03; 2.01 9/1/04; 2.10 9/10/04)
National InterBank 2.10% High Yield Money Market Savings, $0.00 min balance (was 2.31% 4/30; 2.13% 8/11)
American Bank of the North 2.02% APY Regular Savings ($50 bal. to avoid fee) 2.02% APY Super NOW Account ($1000 bal. to avoid fee) 2.02% APY NOW Account ($500 bal. to avoid fee) (Saving and Super were 2.52%, NOW 2.02 8/11/03)
CNBT 1.50% Checking: No min balance (Must have a direct deposit and four check card transactions per month to earn interest) Was 2.05% 5/11/03
Nexity Bank 1.75% MM $1,00 min balance (was 2.10% 8/11/03)
First Internet Bank of Indiana 1.06% Checking $500 min bal (Was 1.31 6/30/03) 1.95% Money Market $4,000 min bal, lim. # of trans(was 2.04% 6/03, 1.86% 3/04)
Charter One 1.30% Energized Checking ($2,500 min balance) (was 1.5% 6/3/03)
Netbank 1.00% Checking No min balance (was 1.51% 8/03; 1.4% 11/03; 1.3% 1/04; 1.2 3/04) 2.1% Money Market $500 min balance, limited # of transactions (was 2.0% 1/04; 1.85% 3/04; 1.75% 11/04; 1.95% 12/04)
This thread is NOT for debating the pros and cons of the banks listed herein. It is for FDIC insured accounts ONLY. No CD rates, only checking, saving, and money market accounts. No teaser rates and no accounts with minimum balance requirements over a few thousand dollars.
If there is another bank you want me to add to this thread, or you learn of a rate change, please post in the same format as above so I can just cut and paste. Please only accounts that are open to the general public in most of the United States via an online interface. The bank on the corner does not qualify unless it has online banking and will let someone on the other side of the country open an account there. Same for credit unions.
If the there is a dramatic rate change (CNBT's recent drop in half for example) I encourage you to post a new thread so the casual observer will see it. Just please also post it here.
One more thing. If you are going to flame this thread and say this topic is already posted elsewhere... You are wrong, and your mother does not love you. Same if you are going to post to pat me on the back and say tell me what a great guy I am. I would prefer if you just send money.
If I slack from updating the thread post a bump here. Every post in this thread automaticaly sends me a PM, so I will get it. I will not update the thread daily, but I will check it regularly. I have a life so sorry if this thread is not the most important thing in my life, but I will keep it up as my own little gift to the community.
3/25 - add Presidential requires direct deposit and highligt posting guidelnes) 3/26/03 to add Pentagon FCU, Statefarm Bank, and update netbank MM 3/28/03 Add Ascencia Bank 3/30 Add Boeing Employees FCU 4/2/03 Add zions and virtual, deteted some lower returns, update ING 4/6/03 Add CharterOne, rearange posting so rates are up front. 4/7/03 Add National Interbank, change CharterOne rate so it reflects true rate after promo. 4/9/03 Rate drop at Zions. Thanks Sloppy1 4/10/03 Made thread a FAQ. "You like me, you really really like me." 4/15/03 rate drop at Bank of Internet Thanks MarkM 4/17/03 Zions down to 2.09 from 2.19, thanks Sloppy1 5/2/03 ING down to 2.1 from 2.2, add nexity and GMAC MM 5/11/03 Added Bank of Internet MM 5/12/03 CNBT down to 1.5% from 2.05% I apoloigize to anyone who signed up there. 6/8/03 ING down to 2.0, PC banker down to 1.5% 6/12/03 added MetLife Bank, american bank of the north, netbank MM down to 2.15% 6/15/03 Zions drop to 2.02% 6/30/03 Updated various after fed rate cut. 8/12/03 Updated various after travel and vacation 11/5/03 Virtual bank drop from 2.2% to 2.1% 1/19/04 Bank of Internet MM drop from 2.21% to 2.11%, Netbank 1.3% to 1.2% 4/6/04 Overdue update of Union Federal, Netbank, Nitany, FIB MM, and Zions Thanks all. 6/2/04 ING up to 2.1% from 2.0% 8/3/04 ING up to 2.2% from 2.1%, zions up, added Capital One 9/1/04 Rate increases for metlife, capone, zions, and union fed. Thanks Sloppy + CH 11/15/04 Rate increases at Zions, capone and netbank. 11/18/04 Rate increases at ING and virtual Bank 12/22/04 Rate increases at FirstIB, NetBank, and Zions MM accounts
Excellent thread, longwood8--good info and well conceived. It will cut down on repetitive questions, and should immediately be added to the FAQ. Thanks for taking the time to put it together!
One CU I'd add would be Pentagon Federal Credit Union. Their checking and savings rates range from .748% to 1.589%, with a $5 minimum to open an account. They have great customer service, and several industry-unique services. (I'll try to pull together a thread on those once I work through the backlog of FAQs I owe this board.)
*Presidential® Internet Checking Plus offers unlimited check writing. Account pays a 3.00% Annual Percentage Yield (APY) on balances up to $25,000, 1.75% APY on any portion of balance in excess of $25,000. Minimum to open $1500, minimum balance to avoid monthly fees, $1000. Account available only if opened online or by phone, and when an e-mail address is provided. No charge at Presidential® ATMs or by Presidential® for use of other ATMs. However, many banks and service bureaus may charge non-customers for ATM use. Account requires an electronic monthly deposit of $200 or more from payroll, annuity, pension, or a business account.
Like I said in the original post, if you want me to add a bank please post the information in the same format as I did in the original post. I will then cut and paste.
As for sorting by rates, I thought of that but figured since some have more than one rate (FIB for instance) that would be a pain. I will adjust the sorting occasionally as I did today.
I am not going to add any banks that have below 1% rates.
I will only post the top and/or main rate at a bank. (therefore FIB gets two postings since their MM is higher than the checking, PC banker gets one posting since the checking is the higest rate.)
I think the presidential rate is not an intro rate. If anyone knows otherwise please post. That is why I did not include everbank.
markber
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2003 @ 4:21p
Can rates of B&M banks go here too? There are at least three B&M Banks I am aware of that have APY > 2.5%.
WalStMonkey
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Mar. 22, 2003 @ 5:47p
Presidential is definitely not an intro rate. I've been banking with them since 1995. Their rate has been 3% for some time, while the other wannabes slashed their supposedly permanaent rates and added to their account requisites. If you're in the DC area I don't think you'd be able to find a better bank.
The direct deposit requirement should be listed in the first post, IMO. It is a significant requirement, and one not everyone can meet.
To answer Markber's question regarding B&M banks, if they are widely available (i.e. can open via mail, have online banking, and do not require you to live within a certian geographic area) I will add them to the list. Just because they have a B&M precence somewhere does not preclude them as long as anyone can get an account open and access it reasonably easy.
Just post the info in the format in the first post.
funkyfresh
Broke Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2003 @ 10:27p
WalStMonkey said:
<< If you're in the DC area I don't think you'd be able to find a better bank. >>
from their website the B&M accounts are different (and have lower rates) than the internet only accounts. assuming you have an internet checking account but are close to a branch, are you able to get the benefits of B&M banking?
WalStMonkey
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Mar. 23, 2003 @ 7:00a
funkyfresh, absolutely. I'm not sure why they still separate the accounts like that. Back in 1995 there were only 'branch' accounts, and the top tier account was equvelant to the current 'Internet' offering. When they started their 'net presence they split the two offerings. About the only thing they've ever done that really annoyed me was making me open a new account to stay at the highest level of interest. It seems to me they could have 'converted' my old account. Aside from having to throw away a bunch of unused checks and get used to a new checking account # though I haven't noticed any difference. But unless some new communication medium supersedes the Internet I don't anticipate that happening again.
--you might want to avoid just cutting and pasting posts, since that would likely embed two fatwallet referrals into the links and mess up links for folks. (Or perhaps the BBS fixes this now, and this isn't an issue?)
--Your request for formatting isn't clear to me. You write,
<< I will only post the top and/or main rate at a bank. (therefore FIB gets two postings since their MM is higher than the checking, PC banker gets one posting since the checking is the higest rate.) >>
I'm not following what you want here? That's why I linked the rate page specifically for PFCU, so you could see what rates best fit the criteria you want to offer. (Heck, now that you've added that you don't want rates below 1%, this might not qualify, since only the linked savings and MM accounts surpass that.)
--A couple of minor edit suggestions. First, It's "Bank of Internet", not "Bank of the Internet." Second, perhaps listing the banks alphabetically might mean less editing work for you than updating the rates, even periodically. It'd also make it easy for readers to locate their preferred banks as your list grows longer.
Again thanks for the thread, I hope this reply is helpful.
What I am saying in my main post is that I want this thread to be concise. I am not going to work my arse off searching for better rates but will keep the top post updated when I learn of a rate change or a new bank that has great rates. The way I will learn of this will likely be through this thread because, other than the banks I use, I do not check rates. If you want me to include any additional banks, just post the following info:
Name of Bank RateType of AccountMin balanceany restrictions or requirements
I will clean up any links, etc. Just giving a link without the rate info defeats the purpose of this thread which is to have the info in one place.
When I refer to "main accounts" I mean the account that pays the best interest and/or the checking account. Using this method PC banker gets only one listing becuase its checking account pays the higest rate there. There is no reason to have a savings account at PC banker. FirstIB, on the other hand, has a Money Market over 2%, so it gets two listings so that its checking account (the main account) and its best rate gets listed.
If you want me to list Pentiagon or any other bank post the rates of its checking account and any saving or money market that pays better with the associated info for each.
GoCowboys
Happy Member
posted: Mar. 25, 2003 @ 5:43p
State Farm Bank Savings: 1.90%APY, no balance requirements, just the normal 6 pre-authorized withdrawal federal limit
NetBank Money Market is now 2.20%APY, $250 average balance to avoid $5.00 fee
You probably should include Ascencia Bank. While their checking rate has went down considerably. (Just 1.19% recently) They DO allow sole proprietors to use it. This is the best BUSINESS account that I have been able to find. ($1000 minimum balance & no free atm withdrawls though)
Small Business Checking Small Business Checking offers full service banking to sole proprietors. Our account includes unlimited check writing, bill payment and no monthly fee if the minimum balance is maintained.
No monthly fee for checking or savings accounts ($5 minimum required in savings though).Huge field of membership - many people on FatWallet are eligible to join.
It should be noted that Virtual Bank's eMoney Market account is the exact same type of account as ING Direct's Orange Savings account. The only way to deposit into or withdraw from the eMoney Market account is electronically, though ACH transfers.
There is a 10-day hold on deposits during the first 30 days after the account is open. However, after the account has been open for at least 30 days, there is only a 2-day hold on deposits, which is a distinct advantage over ING Direct's Orange Savings account.
Since these short term deposit rates can change at any time, the key to choosing a good account is the relative longevity history of its interest rates.
So my suggestion would be to either only include those that have at least a 6 month history of being among the highest rates for that type of account or to place * next to those that have a long history of highest rates.
Also, don't incl those with promotional (temporary) rates.
I can vouch for zions and ING as having years of realative highest rates.
Another suggestion- separate listing for those that require a high balance for high rate, say 25k. I have a list of these that I can share if you want them.
RussianInNYC
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 31, 2003 @ 9:23p
Folks in NYC may consider ( branch in Manh and Brooklyn) Ukranian National Credit Union MMA - 3%
I just updated the top posting with zions and virual, and updated ING's rate drop.
I also removed a couple of banks. The present criteria for inclusion is as follows:
1) over 1% checking and/or 2% savings/mm; or 2) General interest in the bank.
Great suggestion regarding tracking rate performance over time. It is my hope that this thread will be a way of doing that. Check out the top post to see who is paying the best now, but also check out the entire thread to see how that rate has changed. Please keep any coments regarding the other pros and cons of banks in other threads. Interest rates only here please! Also no Credit Unions unless they have good rates AND membership so wide that anyone can figure a way in NATIONWIDE.
I may also add an interest rate hall of shame. This if for banks like Umbrella Bank that once offered very good rates and then slashed them down to the current pitifull 0.31%.
Updated to add Charterone. Also changed the order of informantion so the rate is the first thing you see on each line and is therefore easier to find. Please post any future posts in this format.
$12.00 (daily balance of $2500 required to waive fee)
... for charter one.
funkyfresh
Broke Member
posted: Apr. 6, 2003 @ 8:48p
not to mention "A monthly non-activity fee of $25 will be charged when the account reflects no deposits or check writing for two consecutive months regardless of balance."
Charter One - Energized Checking
wtf...no activity means less work for them...am i missing something?
markber
Senior Member
posted: Apr. 7, 2003 @ 6:54a
National InterBank 2.29% (2.31% APY) High Yield Money Market Savings, $0.00 min balance to earn interest.
I am right...this is a temporary rate that expires in a few months...then you get a much lower rate! Also the inactivity fee is regardless of balance!
ENERGIZED CHECKING
* Annual Percentage Yield (APY) accurate as of 3/27/2003. After 7/28/2003, the interest rate may change at any time. Special Energized CheckingSM account rate is offered only on new accounts with new money. Transfers from existing accounts are ineligible for the special promotional rate. This is a limited time offer, available only through the Internet and subject to change. Minimum balance to open the account and obtain the advertised APY is $50. Current non-special Energized CheckingSM account rates are as follows: $0 - $9,999 earns 1.50% APY; $10,000 - $24,999 earns 1.50% APY; $25,000+ earns 1.50% APY.
A monthly service charge of $12 will be charged if the minimum daily balance in the account is below $2,500. A monthly non-activity fee of $25 will be charged when the account reflects no deposits or check writing for two consecutive months regardless of balance. There is a fee of $50 if the account is closed within 120 days of opening. Account maintenance fees, if any, may reduce earnings on the account. Other parties may impose surcharges if you use ATMs that are not owned by the Bank. Business accounts not eligible. Offer applies to new checking customers new to Charter One with funds not currently on deposit in a Charter One account. This is a limited time offer and is subject to change.
zjren
Member
posted: Apr. 7, 2003 @ 10:07a
We have different personal opinion about temporary rate. That is fine.
Thank sloppy1. I just notice $25 inactivity fee. It is a really strict requirement. If you want its high rate, be careful of all fees.
All charterone fees are listed at: http://charterone.com/pf/Deposits/legal/Disclosures_other.htm#Fees
I am deleting the Charter One listing unless I hear a convincing reason otherwise. This thread is for actual rates, not teaser rates. The actual rate at Charter One is okay but not worth jumping on. When there are other banks with consistantly higher rates. This thread is to find those, not for a bank to stick money in for a month then move it on to the next tease.
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