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Tooshy: thanks for the info re routing-number discrepencies. You have raised some very interesting issues about routing numbers for initiating Pre-Authorized Transfers and ACH Pulls. If anyone else has knowledge on this, please feel free to chime in.


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The current issue of Time magazine has an article on credit unions.


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Links are in main post.


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Some CU's offer fee free traveler's cheques, i.e. mine provides fee free American Express Traveler's Cheques. I don't know if many bank offer traveler's cheques fee free or not, since I have not had a "traditional" bank account for many, many years.

Add my vote in support of CU's !


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I don't understand people who get upset when they don't get loans. It's not an obligation to extend a loan. I recently joined a CU and on my first visit while I was opening the account, I asked if they reported to all three credit bureaus.

SeattleNative said:

<< Some CUs product offerings are aimed at very specific member groups. I've even seen some CUs whose product pricing is HIGH and and their services aimed at affluent members.

A personal friend in Alberta had a bad experience with a CU where she had banked for many years and had a very positive long-term borrowing history. The CU manager refused to offer her a truck loan. Her favorable CU credit history didn't help her credit rating elsewhere because that CU refused to report members' credit history to any credit bureaus. She eventually financed a truck through the dealer, but the experience was very upsetting.

Ask your CU which credit agency they report to. It could be frustrating building an excellent CU credit history only to learn years later that they don't report your credit to any of the Big 3 bureaus.
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Gator Deb: Lenders make a lending decision based on the borrower's likelihood of fully repaying the loan principal and interest. When a client/member has established a positive credit history with a CU or bank, loan rejection for a reasonable loan request can be very disappointing. Some small CUs are cliquish withlending decisions made in an unprofessional and arbitrary manner. "Playing favorites" among loan applicants is NOT the norm for CUs, but it may occasionally happens some smaller CUs and banks. This is compounded when years of favorable credit CU history has gone unreported to credit agencies, putting the borrower at a disadvantage when applying for credit with other lenders.
:I don't understand people who get upset when they don't get loans. It's not an obligation to extend a loan.


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Washington governor signs bills combating fraud
OLYMPIA, Wash. (5/13/03)--Washington Gov. Gary Locke signed into law Monday a sweeping financial-fraud package to crack down on crimes against consumers, credit unions and banks.


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NCUA Mid-Year 2002 Statistics Federally-insured CUs' assets exceed $500 billion.


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Has anyone here had negative experiences with CUs?


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I frickin love my local CU and use it for local banking needs to deposit cash and checks. My CU also has one of those coin star machines which is the bomb.

I do use USAA for internet banking and to do ACH push/pull transfers. I find them very CU like in their behavior.


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I'll add this thread to the FAQ (2nd post in sticky).

The CD rates at my credit union have recently changed where the 3yr. CD rates went .25% higher (finally!!), although the 1 yr. CD rates went down by .48%. Anyone else noticed a diverging rate trend, where short term rates are going down, but longer term rates are going up? Is this a sign that interest rates are heading up in the future? Prior to this both 1yr. and 3yr. rates consistently headed south in tandem. How are your CD rates moving?


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Has anyone gone through their CU for a mortgage? I will be looking for a first home mortgage soon and was curious if the CU had any advantages(i.e. better rates, lower closing costs, etc..)


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Tooshy wrote

<< I would never close my CU account because of any inconvenience because once you do, you lose your right to rejoin if you are no longer in the FOM. >>

This is an important point. See membership policy of Navy Federal Credit Union

<< Once a member of Navy Federal, you are entitled to use the services of your credit union for life. You can leave the military, change duty station or employers, move, retire, get married. Your Navy Federal membership is a foundation that can last a lifetime. Once a member, always a member. To keep your membership active, you must:
Maintain a Share Savings balance of $50 or more, or
Maintain an active Sharechek, Share Certificate, or Individual Retirement Account (IRA), or
Maintain an active loan account (e.g.,paying on an outstanding balance or vehicle lease) as a borrower, or
Maintain a Navy Federal Visa or Mastercard
Remember, if you close your account, you cannot reopen it unless you are still in or return to our field of membership.
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My CU's new car loan procedure was very streamlined, customer friendly. Instead of going in and spending all day waiting to see a loan officer, applied on-line and got e-mail confirmation in a couple days. Picked-up an instruction sheet and a fill-in-the-blank loan check good for up to 60 days with a not to exceed max approved loan amount. Just took it with me while shopping for cars. After negotiating the deal, filled in vehicle information on the check, the amount, and signed front/back. They will mail me the promissary note. New car loan rate is only 2.9% fixed for 3 year term. YMMV.

BTW: Took the dealer's rebate cash vice their 0% loan offer. Thousands in rebates versus hundreds in interest. A real no-brainer.

BBTW: No reason to redeem SBs earning from 4-7% when CU is loaning $$ at 2.9%!


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Justalil remarked

<< New car loan rate is only 2.9% fixed for 3 year term. YMMV......No reason to redeem SBs earning from 4-7% when CU is loaning $$ at 2.9%! >>

There are some phenomenal CU car loan deals. You were savvy to take the huge manufacturer cash rebate instead of the "0% financing".


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Blueyale wrote:

<< I frickin love my local CU and use it for local banking needs to deposit cash and checks. My CU also has one of those coin star machines which is the bomb. >>

CUs offer individuals more banking value for the dollar than banks. CU members' savings deposits and loans aren't subsidizing obese executive salaries, high-risk loans to the Argentine government, excessive lines of credit to Enron Corporation, and similar boondoggles.

CUs are a refreshingly alternative to banks for real people from all walks of life. Enjoy the updated FAQ and links!


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Austex wrote

<< Some CU's may bend the rules to qualify you as a member. I called the "Smallville Credit Union" in a nearby suburb of "Smallville" to ask what their membership requirements were. "Do you live in Smallville?" "No, I don't." "Do you have any family members who live in Smallville? Don't you have a brother who lives here?" "No, I don't." Then she very deliberately repeated the question, "Don't you have a brother who lives in Smallville?" >>

Also check out theNCUA Searchable Credit Union Database


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vwvr7vw said:

<< Has anyone gone through their CU for a mortgage? I will be looking for a first home mortgage soon and was curious if the CU had any advantages(i.e. better rates, lower closing costs, etc..) >>

We had a first mortgage with our credit union about 15 years ago at a competitive rate, around 9% back then. They do not charge extra fees servicing the mortgage, so if their rates are competitive, I would definitely go with them. Remember they are nonprofit and service oriented which is why I like to do business with them, from simple phone calls, etc. I just trust them more.


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tooshy wrote:

<< Remember they are nonprofit and service oriented which is why I like to do business with them, from simple phone calls, etc. I just trust them more. >>

The more threads I have reviewed here on FatWallet, the more I realize CUs have been overlooked as a dependable financial resource by many (myself included).


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The American Bankers Association is actively lobbying Congress and State Legislatures to repeal credit unions' "unfair" tax-exempt status and exemption from some bank regulations. The ABA and its allies are arguing to revenue-starved legislative bodies that CUs' tax exemptions are particularly unfair to other taxpayers during this time of declining state/local tax receipts.

If you are a CU member, you should be aware of the ABA's organized lobbying on these complaints:
Credit Union Competition
Background, Recent Legislation, and ABA Position
History of CU Expansion
Utah Taxpayers Association opposition to CU tax exemption
"Changing Face of Credit Unions"
Credit Unions Expand Commercial Customer Presence
Credit Unions Membership in the Federal Home Loan Bank System
Credit Unions Are A Mature Industry
Credit Union Subsidies Foster Inefficiency
Are Credit Unions Serving Their Members Well?
Wolves Dressed in Sheep's Clothing
Taxation Without Extinction


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