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SeattleNative
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posted: Jul. 1, 2003 @ 10:23a
In the aftermath of the recent Federal Reserve rate cut, savings rates have been dropping at banks and CUs across the country. Short-term CD rates have been dropping sharply at banks (most bank CDs of 1 year or less are under 1%) but CU CD rates are now significantly higher than those offered at most banks.
If you are seeking to earn any kind of interest return on your long-term savings (other than an investment in equities), you might seriously explore CU short-term CDs. While Internet-based banks like ING DIRECT will also offer high savings-account yields, those rates could continue dropping as yield-starved investors flock to them. Don't be too surprised if ING and other highest-yield accounts drop to around 1.5% APY - or even lower if money-market fund investors become nervous about their funds "breaking the buck" as they approach zero yields.
See this example of offerings from Seattle Metropolitan Credit Union: 6 month CD 1.82% APY, 1 year CD 2.13% APY. These rates are more than double of what most B&M banks are offering, higher than most stockbroker-offered CDs, and higher even than most Internet banks' CD offerings (which suggests those banks may be anticipating lower rates in the next few weeks).
You should of course also consider US Treasury Savings Bonds, but keeping in mind some of the redemption limits and purchase limits on Savings Bonds, CU CDs are another option worth exploring. |
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SeattleNative
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jul. 15, 2003 @ 10:18p
To those who remain anxious about declining rates on checking and savings accounts (no surprise to anyone who looks at MMMF rates at imoneynet.com), I repeat my suggestions on how to obtain some yield:
1. For longer-term money that you don't need for more than a year, look closely at US Treasury Series EE and Series I Savings Bonds.
2. For money you might want short-term access to, look closely at short-term 3-month, 6-month, 9-month and 12-month CDs offered by credit unions. Usually the early-withdrawal penalties aren't terribly severe if you need the funds earlier, and the rates are going to be quite a bit better than variable-rate deposit accounts. You should be able to find CU CDs with APYs of 1.5% to 2%, which will be guaranteed for the term of the CD.
I expect variable-rate deposit accounts (savings/checking) will continue to drop. |
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SeattleNative
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jul. 16, 2003 @ 12:41p
Tivo 1's thread Question about banks with local branches presents a classic example of a situation where a credit union likely would provide friendlier service and support than a bank. Tivo1 wrote:
<< My GirlFriend who is a poor manager has no credit cards or even a savings or checking account. Her and I think that it would be a good idea to get her at a minimum a savings account with a visa check card so that she can pay bills with it, and make purchases rather than using her foleys (and the like) cards. 1) does this seem like a good idea? Or would something else make more since? 2) what are some national banks that have many local branches? 3) which of these banks would be good for cash deposits (since she doesnt get a regular paychecks) therefor no Direct deposits 4) which ones have No fees, or low monthly fees? If you have some helpful advice great but Rather than flame me.. if you could just point me to something useful >>
For a person who has never had a deposit account before, credit unions are likely to be much more helpful than the typical bank. Particularly if you find a smaller community-based CU rather than a giant-sized CU, CU staff are far more interested in teaching an inexperienced depositor learn how to make deposits and withdrawals and how to manage their checkbook including keeping track of debit-card purchases and ATM withdrawals. CU staff may be more forgiving towards a new depositor who makes errors in their new account - which is to say that some banks can be rather nasty towards clients who "abuse" new accounts and can report derogatory information to the ChexSystems nationwide database.
Shop carefully for a CU, though. Some larger CUs increasingly resemble large banks in their business approach, and an inexperienced banking consumer might look for a place where there aren't chronic long teller lines, where CU staff are readily available to answer questions in person or on the telephone, and where there's a "user-friendliness" factor. |
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bssc
- Senior Member - 10K
posted: Jul. 16, 2003 @ 1:17p
SeattleNative said:
<< Has anyone here had negative experiences with CUs? >>
I was with Communicators FCU in Texas for five years. The only problem I had was that the reps were a bit surly all the time but it could just be me. Never had any issues and their locations were convenient. |
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SeattleNative
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Sep. 1, 2003 @ 12:15p
Credit Unions Onlineoffers an excellent searchable database of nearly all CUs with a WWW presence.
On rare occasions, you may learn about company-sponsored CUs whose field of membership is very tightly limited to existing employees and retirees of the parent company.
These "corporate employee-benefit" CUs exploit having a "cherry-picked" FOM (everyone is on the company payroll and/or receiving a company pension) and may offer phenomenally good deals on high-yield savings and low-rate loans - as long as you are active within the FOM. I recently joined an employer offering such a CU.
If you join such a CU and then leave the FOM (i.e. switching employers), you might technically be able to maintain your CU membership but you won't receive the same attractive rates offered to active employees or company retirees.
Those small company-sponsored CUs are clearly established as an "employee benefit", often even receiving subsidized office space from the company, and are not intended to service individuals not directly employed by/retired from the parent company. They are a very sweet "golden handcuffs" deal for those offered membership. |
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dcwilbur
- Ancient Member
posted: Oct. 2, 2003 @ 2:54p
SeattleNative said:
<< Tooshy: thanks for the info re routing-number discrepencies. You have raised some very interesting issues about routing numbers for initiating Pre-Authorized Transfers and ACH Pulls. If anyone else has knowledge on this, please feel free to chime in. >> I've been through this. Anytime you are running a wire transfer, pre-authorized debits, ACH, etc., call your credit union and confirm the routing number (which may or may not be the number on the check). My CU finally converted to true routing numbers a few years ago, but previously it was a hassle. Most pre-authorized deals tell you to send a copy of a voided check so that they can set up the transaction - this of course won't work if the check doesn't contain the true routing number.
Another issue - I have a second "share" account (CU nomenclature for checking account) that I use as a wash account for about twenty monthly automatic drafts (to direct stock purchase plans, but that's another topic). I had a horrible time getting the CU to take the money out of the right account. Seems that the banking relationship is under a single account number and the individual accounts under that account are designated by some secret code (for which I didn't have the decoder ring!). I ended up having to file new paperwork with every vendor and I still don't have them all sorted out. I would advise anyone trying to set up something like this to use an account at a separate institution so as to avoid the confusion. My CU staff never did understand "why it was such a big deal" if the money came out of the other account! |
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LittleHulk
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 2, 2003 @ 3:14p
RallyCap said:
<< SeattleNative said:
<< 4. Credit Unions generally offer lower fees and transaction charges, and somewhat higher savings interest rates, on deposit accounts than banks. >>
SN, just a theoretical question. Are there any bad credit unions? I mean with minimum balances, fees, interest rates and customer service on par with a notoriously bad retail bank like Fleet? Or is there peer pressure that keeps them in line? >>
Credit unions can offer you all the goodies because they don't have to pay federal income tax, which gives them a cost advantage over traditional financial institutions. In exchange for this excellent tax treatment, a credit union is restricted in its ability to grow, since membership is limited to a group of people who meet certain, though quite lax, criteria. You see $100 billion banks but never a similar size CU, right? |
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SeattleNative
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 5, 2003 @ 7:07p
In addition to their tax-exempt status, most CUs have lower overhead costs than commercial banks.
CU executive compensation packages are less extravagant than at commercial banks and most CUs have fewer costly full-service branches than comparably-sized banks.
All of those expenses - bloated cost of executive perks, lavish expensive headquarters artwork, expensive office space in status-conscious downtown office buildings, and high-risk loans to e-commerce companies and Third World countries) get passed on to bank customers, along with banks' need to meet Wall Street profitability goals.
If you want simple no-nonsense value for your banking dollars, you probably will get more bank for the buck with a credit union! |
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SeattleNative
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 21, 2004 @ 11:31p
Thread being updated! As time permits, more recent discussion threads will be added. I've also included a brief discussion about credit unions converting to bank charters. |
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xerty
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Oct. 23, 2004 @ 4:12a
SeattleNative said:In addition to their tax-exempt status, most CUs have lower overhead costs than commercial banks. I just thought I'd chime in with my positive CU experience. I've been using my school's credit union, CEFCU, for a number of years now. They offer good interest rates, currently just raised to 2.25%, and good online access. They definitely aren't a full service bank though, as they don't offer real checking (they will give you a specific check from your account in person at a branch, but no checkbook) and aren't able to deal with unusual requests (gift card cashing, cashing a foreign check, etc). I saw their financials recently, and they've got about 3/4 of a billion in assets, which surprised me a bit for a place with all of 3 branches. |
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SeattleNative
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Dec. 15, 2004 @ 11:53p
FAQ updated - bump for interest |
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EugeneV
- Ancient Member
posted: Jan. 17, 2005 @ 3:48p
I am trying to compile a list of credit unions where I qualify for membership. So far I found four in my state that I can join based on employment, and a bunch out of state (haven't checked if I actually qualify, but the company is listed). However, I found all through Google. None show up in creditunionsonline.com search results. Is there a better site that I can use for this?
One advantage of belonging to as many credit unions as possible that I thought of is scholarship funds. They are meant for members and their children and you simply increase your chances. You will also qualify for all sorts of promotions they occasionally run, for example, when your 0% APR BT is due and you have to pay it off anyway, you can transfer it to one of the CUs offering immediate 1% Cash Back and then pay it off... or transfer it to the next one  |
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bbexpress
- New Member
posted: Mar. 29, 2005 @ 8:24p
I'm sorry because I dont know where to ask, a lot of threads here. I have a question about the Credit Union. They said $25 charge per transaction for wire transfer, that mean everytime I want to buy USSaving Bonds or deposit to INGDirect account I have to pay this fee. Thank you. |
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EugeneV
- Ancient Member
posted: Mar. 30, 2005 @ 9:01a
bbexpress said:They said $25 charge per transaction for wire transfer, that mean everytime I want to buy USSaving Bonds or deposit to INGDirect account I have to pay this fee.
You don't need to wire money to ING Direct. You can pull FROM ING instead via ACH (free). |
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