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posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 5:06a
isofilez
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 5:21a
1. Truck/GMC/2003/Sonoma 2. $22,796 3. Edmunds FMV $21,065 4. Amount Paid $21,065 5. 3.9% special financing (0% wasn't offered at the time of purchase, i regret not waiting.)
only advice i can give based on my experience is to hold out for the best possible deal, if i had waited another month or two i could have gotten 0% interest opposed to 3.9%
Incentives used: GMO - Order through employee program; dealer cost w/o advertising fees $1000 off - Oldsmobile loyalty certificate $1450 off - GM Card earnings $750 off - promotional program
Make/Model - 2002 Chevy Venture LS MSRP - $29335 <-- includes $655 destination fee Invoice - ~$26500 Paid - ~$20700 Discounts - GM Supplier Discount pricing of $26683.12 $4000 GM Rebate ~$2000 in GM Card earnings
Like Isofilez said, wait for your deal. I bought last year at the end of July, shortly after the GM rebate on Ventures went from $3000 to $4000, thinking it wouldn't get any better. Well it did. If I had waited longer, I could have gotten another $1000 off.
ezwinner701
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 12:02p
Askani, when did you buy your 2003 Accord and how were to able to get it under invoice on an EX-L?
1. Car/Nissan/2003/Maxima SE 2. $26,189 (including dest) 3. $23,591 (including dest) 4. $21,000 (excluding taxes, upgrades) 5. $23,591 - $2000 Dealer Instant Rebate - $500 College Grade Discount. Also qualified for 1.9%APR 60mo.s
mephisto
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 12:26p
1.) 2003 Volkswagen Passat Wagon GLX 2.) MSRP: 31,200 incl. dest 3.) Invoice: 28,485 incl. dest 4.) Paid: 28,485 incl. dest. 5.) 1.9% VW Credit financing, dealer gets $600 if you finance through VW credit, 2% dealer holdback
Askani
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 1:58p
ezwinner701 said:
<< Askani, when did you buy your 2003 Accord and how were to able to get it under invoice on an EX-L? >>
My dad bought his in late April. We got such a good price by getting internet/email quotes and using the fax attack method to get additional quotes. We then used the quotes against the dealers to get the lowest price. I did all the emailing and faxing so that we never had to leave our house till we had an agreed upon price. We only went to the dealer to sign the papers and to pick up the car. The best times to buy a car are: the last week of the month, last week in the yearly quarter, and the last week of the year. If you're not in a rush, you could wait till late September when the 04' Accord and the 03' will be discounted. If not try at the end of this month. I suggest you to the Motely Fool page a linked to earlier in the thread to get the fax attack method (step 12) and also check out carsdirect.com as they had the accord listed for about $150 more then I got it for yet still under invoice (depends on your area). Good luck.
1. 2004 Chrysler Pacifica 2. $40,762 (Edmund's TMV) 3. $37,935 4. ~$37,000 (not including trade in)
Discounts: DaimlerChrysler Friends Program Discount (company performed a little bit of research on behalf of Chrysler in the rail road industry 10 years ago), all employees receive price up to 1% below invoice now. (probably similar to GM supplier discount mentioned already). 3.9% financing, $500 off.
mephisto
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 2:26p
Askani you got all the right tips in that post.
- Buy car in the last week of the month, the later the better. - Use fax attack - Call dealers and ask if they can match or beat an offer you got through fax attack
I started my fax attack on March 26th and signed on March 28th.
1. 2003 Chrysler Town & Country Limited (for my wife and kids!) 2. $36,220 3. $33,779 4. $31,500 5. No payments for 10 months, 0% after that for 50 months (5 years total)
Also bought the extended warranty...maybe a rip-off, but gives me peace of mind!
ezwinner701
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 2:56p
We are getting great info here, anyone have a mini-cooper yet?
Askani
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 3:03p
albob said:
<< Also bought the extended warranty...maybe a rip-off, but gives me peace of mind! >>
It's probably not prefered to by the extended warrenty, especially from the dealer. You could buy it online for much cheaper then at the dealer.
retihsuhnt
Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 3:22p
ezwinner701 said:
<< We are getting great info here, anyone have a mini-cooper yet? >>
Good luck on that one, I was looking at purchasing one. Having only one dealer in OR and they are built per your order trying to get below what the website(s) say is going to be darn near impossible.
ezwinner701
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 3:26p
<< Good luck on that one, I was looking at purchasing one. Having only one dealer in OR and they are built per your order trying to get below what the website(s) say is going to be darn near impossible >>
Yes, the going price is probably MSRP + 2000 markup.
vjarnot
Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 3:28p
1. Car/Make/Year/Model: 2002 Honda S2000 2. MSRP price: ~32.8k 3. Invoice price: ~29k 4. Price YOU paid for: ~31.8k 5. Any addition info: Don't try to convince me that I was ripped off... I wasn't.
jigglypuffy
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 4:28p
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Askani
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 5:12p
vjarnot said:
<< 1. Car/Make/Year/Model: 2002 Honda S2000 2. MSRP price: ~32.8k 3. Invoice price: ~29k 4. Price YOU paid for: ~31.8k 5. Any addition info: Don't try to convince me that I was ripped off... I wasn't. >>
That's the current going price for an 03' model on carsdirect.com. I think you got the best deal you could on a car that is hard to get a real good deal on (invoice and below).
AFO
Happy Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 5:14p
vjarnot said:
<< 1. Car/Make/Year/Model: 2002 Honda S2000 2. MSRP price: ~32.8k 3. Invoice price: ~29k 4. Price YOU paid for: ~31.8k 5. Any addition info: Don't try to convince me that I was ripped off... I wasn't. >>
Oh yes, you were . Just like I was when I paid 17500 for a 2000 Corolla, whose invoice was probably 15500. And got financing through the dealer for about 8%
ezwinner701
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 5:19p
S2000 was a high demand car when it first came out. It's not surprising to see around MSRP price.
z0s010
Tired Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 5:56p
02 Nissan xterra se/sc 4x2 Sticker $26.5k Invoice...dunno. Paid $22,900 0.9% for 36 months....only 18 to go.
Askani
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 7:20p
AFO said:
<< vjarnot said:
<< 1. Car/Make/Year/Model: 2002 Honda S2000 2. MSRP price: ~32.8k 3. Invoice price: ~29k 4. Price YOU paid for: ~31.8k 5. Any addition info: Don't try to convince me that I was ripped off... I wasn't. >>
Oh yes, you were . Just like I was when I paid 17500 for a 2000 Corolla, whose invoice was probably 15500. And got financing through the dealer for about 8% >>
No he wasn't. Take a look at the Acura TSX. See if you can get it below MSRP (you'd be lucky) let alone anywhere near invoice.
chrsb
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 7:34p
GMC Envoy 2003 MSRP 32000 3000 rebate 750 because I own a Ford 1750 bonus cash 1900 trade in 3000 GM discount 22,000 financed at 2.9% with USAA
Threepwood
Ancient Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 8:29p
My mom got a mini-cooper recently. It was built per her order and she paid msrp. The current wait on a mini-cooper if you get it built per your order is about 2 months for a regular mini-cooper and 4 months for a mini-cooper s. The place where my mom bought her mini cooper did have an extremely limited selection on the lot ready for sale. You may be able to get a small discount if you bought one that was already on the lot, but it would probably be small enough that it would be better to just spend the extra money and get it customized like you want it.
ezwinner701
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 9:17p
Threepwood, how was she able to get MSRP orice on a bulit to order? that is HOT!
vjarnot
Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 9:27p
Askani said:
<< AFO said:
<< vjarnot said:
<< 1. Car/Make/Year/Model: 2002 Honda S2000 2. MSRP price: ~32.8k 3. Invoice price: ~29k 4. Price YOU paid for: ~31.8k 5. Any addition info: Don't try to convince me that I was ripped off... I wasn't. >>
Oh yes, you were . Just like I was when I paid 17500 for a 2000 Corolla, whose invoice was probably 15500. And got financing through the dealer for about 8% >>
No he wasn't. Take a look at the Acura TSX. See if you can get it below MSRP (you'd be lucky) let alone anywhere near invoice. >>
Thanks for the backup, Askani! Yeah, I got a decent price, I called every dealer in my state, most wanted MSRP to order one, the only other dealership with S2000s in stock wanted $1500 over MSRP. I managed to talk my local dealer down a bit... My case was fairly unique - but not unlike that of a MINI shopper.
AFO, you need to look at the car as well as the dollar amount. Honda sold 9,500 S2000s in 2002, Toyota sold 255,000 Corollas in 2002. A Corolla shouldn't be bought unless it's below invoice... you did get royally screwed.
vjarnot
Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 9:31p
albob said:
<< 5. No payments for 10 months, 0% after that for 50 months (5 years total) >>
That's a very sweet financing deal; even though it did require you to buy a Chrysler
sfsd315
New Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 9:39p
2003 Chevy Trailblazer LTZ
MSRP: $38,420 Invoice: $35,873 Paid: $28,100, which included "throw ins" not included in MSRP of running boards ($375), bug deflector ($60) & mud flaps ($110). This price was after $3,500 rebate, $2,800 GM Card Earnings & $600 GM Card Bonus Cash.
Threepwood
Ancient Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 9:52p
<< Threepwood, how was she able to get MSRP orice on a bulit to order? that is HOT! >>
I'll have to talk to her, but I think that's just the price the dealer was selling them for. She bought it from New Country Mini in Hartford CT.
1. 2003 PT Cruiser / Base / Automatic 2. 18,360 MSRP 3. 17,500 invoice 4. 15,251 Price Paid 5. 1,000 rebate, back in October 2002. The rebates on PTs are nearing 2,500 now.
1. 2003 Accord Sedan EX 2. 22,860 3. 20,619 4. 20,400 5. Financing through Peoplefirst.com 4.24
Askani
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 19, 2003 @ 11:28p
vjarnot said:
<< AFO, you need to look at the car as well as the dollar amount. Honda sold 9,500 S2000s in 2002, Toyota sold 255,000 Corollas in 2002. A Corolla shouldn't be bought unless it's below invoice... you did get royally screwed. >>
LMAO. So true. But truth be told, if you're happy with a purchase, then you're happy.
workindev
Ancient Member
posted: Jun. 20, 2003 @ 1:13p
1. 2003 Pontiac Montana Minivan with "Thunder" sport package 2. $35k sticker 3. $30k invoice 4. $26k 5. $3000 Factory Cash Back, $2000 discount for getting the DVD + Onstar, ~$4000 GM employee discount (Father-in-law works for GM). Financed at 4.49% for 72 months (which will be paid off early)
Wife has been driving it for less than a week now. If you can either take cash back or 0% interest, be sure calculate it out before hand. In most cases its going to be better to take the cash back because you can get some very low rates from banks and credit unions, and if you make a few extra payments throughout the life of the loan you will come out ahead.
1. 2003 Nissan 350Z (Performance trim) 2. MSRP - $31,450 3. Invoice - $28,235 4. Price YOU paid - $29,250 5. No financing deals, paid cash, was able to charge part of the total price to get some AMEX rebate cash.
I could not get better than $500 off MSRP locally (IL - Chicagoland area) back in December 2002, so I went to Wisconsin to pick up my car. Since winter is traditionally a slow period for sales of sports cars and convertibles, it's the best time to get a deal.
350Z's are more prevalent now, and I'm sure people can do better in some parts of the country in terms of deals. If you're not a stickler for new you should be able to get a slightly used 350Z for a couple thousand off of MSRP.
If anyone buys this car as a daily driver in a state where you'll get snow, either buy snow tires for winter months or use a different car for winter.
<< It's probably not prefered to by the extended warrenty, especially from the dealer. You could buy it online for much cheaper then at the dealer. >>
In California, it is hard to find Extended Warranties from anyone but the dealers. I think there os some sort of law that makes it very difficult for third-party companies to offer them in CA.
just buy an extended warranty online. warrantysdirect.com is suppose to be reasonable...
workindev
Ancient Member
posted: Jun. 20, 2003 @ 5:00p
I think that extended warranties are generally a bad deal for the consumer. They typically have a 65%-70% margin, which is why the dealers try to sell you on them.
Keep in mind that most extended warranties do not cover "diagnostic work", so you could end up having to pay a sizeable chunk for covered work, and it seems they will do whatever they can to avoid having to pay for repairs.
My brother picked up a 5 year extended warranty with a new car a few years ago. The car started making a grinding sound after the manufacturers warranty expired, so he took it in to the dealer expecting the extended warranty to cover it. The dealer took it for a few days and didn't find anything, but still charged him $150. When he pointed out the extended warranty, they showed him in writing where the warranty didn't cover the diagnostic work, and because they could not find the problem he would have to pay. If they would have found something wrong and fixed, they said all the work would have been covered. Pretty good incentive to fix your car, huh?
mephisto
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 20, 2003 @ 6:38p
workindev said:
<< 1. 2003 Pontiac Montana Minivan with "Thunder" sport package 2. $35k sticker 3. $30k invoice 4. $26k 5. $3000 Factory Cash Back, $2000 discount for getting the DVD + Onstar, ~$4000 GM employee discount (Father-in-law works for GM). Financed at 4.49% for 72 months (which will be paid off early) >>
You paid sticker for an US build car? If you took all the discounts (3k, 2k, 4k) then you should have paid much closer to 21k. I don't know about the employee discount, but the other two don't require paying MSRP, you can discount them from invoice price also.
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