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#1 MYTH: "I should Build my credit by carrying a balance on my credit card or by taking out a small loan and repaying it" #2 MYTH: "I need to cancel some of my unused credit cards because I have too many" Nope. This will cost you a ton of money and likely lead to a default. Chances are you owe a lot more on your current car than the dealer will give for it. If you owe $20,000 on the old car and the dealer will only give $15000 for it, they will tack that $5000 onto the new car. So you now startoff owing a ton more on the new car...when it comes time to trade that one in, you'll likely be $10,000 "upside down" on the loan compared to the car's value, and this vicious cycle repeats a few times, until you default. Bad idea. If you dont dispute it or pay it, it can hurt your credit and end up costing you a LOT more than the collections amount. Even if they dont sue you, they can still put it on your credit report. EVEN if they dont have your SSN. See the debt collection FAQ and related websites. With the increase in the standard deduction for filing married, there is very little tax advantage for a median income family buing a median price home. Look at the total cost of ownership for that new car. When something is not yours to begin with, how can you hope to keep possession of it? #12 (myths #12-19 courtesy UnknownShopper) With insurance policies this can result in your claims not being paid. Beware of IRS and other implications. This will not save you money if the deal goes bad, and the cost of professional help after the deal has gone south is much more costly. Buyers agents do not always know the laws. Think about who they really represent in a real estate transaction considering they only get paid if the deal closes.
This is the beginning of a lost friendship or family disputes. Get it in writing.
You are typically liable for 100% of the lease. Even if all three names were on the lease, chances are you are JOINTLY AND SEVERALLY liable, meaning EACH of you is obligated for the full amount. Read and undestand what you sign. Not true even on a short-term basis. Unilaterally diverting employee funds for any purpose is illegal in most states. the price factor alone does NOT mean you are getting a better product. Nope, this isn't the way tax brackets work. If you move into a higher tax bracket, only the portion of your income that is above the threshold is taxed at that rate . Think again. Often, the laws protect big business (who lobbies politicians for items favorable to them) . Even if the laws are designed to protect the consumer, big business knows how to make it difficult for the average person to be treated fairly, and they also have the resources to make it nearly impossible for an individual to force a business's compliance with consumer protections. #24 (courtesy WalStMonkey) Like dietary fat, there are several kinds of debt. Too much of the bad fats will kill you dead. However you will not be as healthy taking 0 fat as taking moderated portions of 'good' fat. Good debt well applied will enhance one's bottom line. SBA loans help many small businesses. If you get disabled, you can get social security. If someone defrauds you can sue them in the government run courts. If someone steals from you can call the government police. #27 (courtesy desi101) Due to FW you end up spending more money! Be CAREFUL when reading the Hot Deals forum! FW helps you to find the best value for your money. It's you who have to decide whether to spend more money or not. FACT: You probably just gave the government a few thousand dollar interest free loan for a year. FACT: The book by Amir Aczel (How to beat the IRS at its own game) has great tips on how to make yourself statistically less likely to get audited, such as: #30 MYTH: "Making present financial decisions based on past financial data." Example #1: "$30 per share is a good price and this is the time to sell. Too bad I bought mine at $35. If only I had bought it at less than $25, I would be selling right away." Example #2: "The offer of $5,000 for my car is an excellent offer. Too bad I owe more than that on the car to the bank, otherwise..." In other words, ignore sunk costs. #31 MYTH: "By buying a house further away from the city where I work, I can afford a bigger house and my family and I will be happier". #32 MYTH: "What a great invention...credit card bonuses and points". #33 MYTH: It is always better to buy a home rather then rent. #34 MYTH: Credit card companies don't make any money from people who pay their balances off monthly, and won't waive charges or extend special offers to those "deadbeats". #35 MYTH: I should sell my stocks because they went down, and they might go down some more! #36 MYTH: The Rule of 72: Divide 72 by the number of years you aim to double your money and the remainder is the interest rate required to reach your goal. #37 MYTH: Every portfolio should have at least 10% foreign stocks & funds. FACT: Because many US-based companies are multi-national, you may already have a significant exposure to foreign investment without knowing it. For example, Exxon and Merck derive about half their profit and sales from non-US businesses, meaning their shareholders have a roughly 50% exposure to foreign markets. Before investing in foreign stocks, take a look at how how much foreign revenue, profit, and presence are derived from domestic equities in your existing portfolio. You may have a much larger foreign investment than you know. |
true...i used to believe i had to take out a loan to build credit, but it turns out mine was fine just from paying bills on time |
WOW! That's all I gotta say. Nice SIS. |
if you just closed them, chances are excellent they will reinstate and keep all old acct info...I would do it. |
#9 - I will save big, big money on my taxes when I buy a house. The interest payments are deductible! With the increase in the standard deduction for filing married, there is very little tax advantage for a median income family buing a median price home. |
SUCKISSTAPLES said: |
waterman said: This can be true, you have to do the math before you can overextend yourself on a big loan thinking the tax breaks will make up for it. Assuming that you have over $7500 in interest paid on your mortgage/heloc/taxes, it will ususally be better to file individual returns, and have one person claim all the interest so that the other still gets the standard $7500. If you paid under $7500 in interest, you will see no benifit (unless you have other items to push you over the standard deduction) |
Myth: The best way to keep your job is to work hard. |
<< #2 MYTH: "I need to cancel some of my unused credit cards because I have too many" >> |
"it will ususally be better to file individual returns, and have one person claim all the interest so that the other still gets the standard $7500." |
WalStMonkey said: Didn't they bump the married deduction up to $15,000 this year? meaning half would be $7500 each (same as individual deduction). Regarding the Roth IRA, I don't really know much about tax remifications on those other than the basic principals of money is taxed going in, not coming out. |
"But the credit score is only one factor in determining whether or not credit will be extended to you." |
"Didn't they bump the married deduction up to $15,000 this year?" |
WSM said "..Between us, we've got over 70 open tradelines.." |
WalStMonkey said: Duh I jumbled all the numbers in my head, I have been having a really bad day at work :-/ I think single filers get $500 this year. I did read that for this year the joint deduction would equal the same as amount as 2 single filers, that would put joint returns at $9000. It shouldn't be too hard with a mortgage to beat $4500 in interest. |
<< You had an idiot lender. There's nothing preventing any borrower from opening a bunch of credit accounts the day after any loan closes. Sometimes I wonder why I never have these problems. My wife and I have gotten 3 mortgages in the last year. Just FYI the 3rd we opened paid off the 2nd opened at settlement. Between us, we've got over 70 open tradelines and could borrow several hundred thousand on demand. It's also not because we have a stellar income either. No mention of having 'too many open accounts' by either of the lenders. Well,looks like we're going to buy a rental property soon so maybe the next mortgage broker will have something to say about it. >> Perhaps, your financial circumstances are different from mine but I don't think the average user of this for is going to have 70 open lines of credit. If anything, I just wanted to inject a bit of reality into the myth. Also, the lender was a local credit union, perhaps they have different standards when it comes to managing the risk on their portfolio. And you mentioned you used a mortgage broker, perhaps he weeded out the lenders that view this as risky? |
I also ran into trouble with too much available unsecured credit when applying for a HELOC about three years ago. Despite having impeccable credit, zero balances on everything, no car loans or other debt (except for the first mortgage on residence), the loan officer was factoring in what a minimum payment would be if the CC's were fully extended. I did end up closing a couple of smaller accounts to make them happy, but that experience has me reluctant to open additional lines of unsecured credit. For what its worth... |
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