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posted: Jan. 31, 2004 @ 3:49p
blueswimhorse
Senior Member
posted: Jan. 31, 2004 @ 5:17p
Thanks for the info,,,
I have been wanting to find out about this.
Are there any banks that dont charge an additional fee, leaving out the Mastercard/Visa fee ?
AMEX is good with only 2 % , but doen't have as high an acceptance abroad.
MarkM
Tired Member
posted: Jan. 31, 2004 @ 5:28p
This is a list of the cards which do charge additional fees. For possible ones that don't, check the links to older threads i have already posted.
I myself have used Fleet cards abroad, they used to not charge additonal fees. though I will NOT use them again due to atrocious customer service & my experience in contesting a charge (in summary, they found against me even though I had a signed receipt from the charger listing a different amount. even more d@mning, the vendor eventually responded to me much later & made good on the difference, claiming he was out of touch when i tried to contact him originally, and said that fleet didn't even try to contact him. though who knows if that was true, he may have only made good with me because he was associated with the university hosting the conferrence we were attending & I wrote him & said I was going to tell them what he did -- he got back to me right away then!) I will probalby use CapOne next time I travel, I think they are still 1%.
The following don't charge an additional conversion fee beyond the built-in 1% from mc/visa:
Farm Bureau MBNA Fleet most Credit Unions Capital One ?
blueswimhorse
Senior Member
posted: Feb. 2, 2004 @ 1:08a
thanks sloppy1
dgcc
Senior Member
posted: Feb. 2, 2004 @ 1:17a
we were in Mexico this past December and a $400 bill came out to $412 when charged on my AMEX.
A $191 bill came out to $185 with Visa. It generally depends upon the peso to dollar conversion rate which should have been based upon about 11 to 1, but AMEX seems to not give as favorable conversion rate, at least in this case.
CrankyOldGuy
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 1, 2004 @ 12:30p
I know that MBNA-branded cards do not have a foreign currency surcharge. But the AAA 5% gas rebate card is not explicitly MBNA-branded.
If you use a credit card overseas, MasterCard, Visa and American Express add a “currency conversion fee” to the charge when converting it to dollars. On all Mastercard and Visa charges the amount is 1%; American Express charges 2%.
In addition to the MasterCard and Visa charge, many banks add another fee of their own. This year 26 of surveyed issuers are adding their own currency conversion charges that are separate from MasterCard and Visa fees. The number has grown since last year’s survey, which found 17 issuers including American Express with currency conversion fees. However, the average fee has dropped from 1.86% to 1.56%.
The bank charges range from 1% to 3% of the amount converted, which does not include the MasterCard/Visa commission of 1%. “Of the large issuers, we found that Capital One, Fleet Bank and MBNA do not add a charge of their own.”
monicutza
New Member
posted: May. 24, 2004 @ 4:42a
So the question is, as a general rule, am I better off exchanging cash in the airport/exchange office or paying with my citibank? Airport exchange rates are known to be bad so I would think CC is still better. How about using a debit card at an ATM?
use a credit card, it will almost always be the best and easiest way to buy, plus you get tons of protections (depending on the card) such as lost /damaged item, return protection, chargeback rights, possibly extended warranty)
if you dont have a MBNA card, get one!
monicutza
New Member
posted: May. 24, 2004 @ 6:44a
SUCKISSTAPLES said: if you dont have a MBNA card, get one!
I do have one; do you mean it's better to use it while overseas instead of my Citibank dividend CC? My MBNA card points system is not as good.
monicutza said: SUCKISSTAPLES said: if you dont have a MBNA card, get one!
I do have one; do you mean it's better to use it while overseas instead of my Citibank dividend CC? My MBNA card points system is not as good. uh yeah, read this thread. Citi charges you 2% on top of the 1% visa/mc fee. MBNA does not, so using an MBNA card has 2% less fees. I doubt your Citi card rewards beats your MBNA rewards program by 2%
MarkM
Tired Member
posted: May. 25, 2004 @ 8:43a
monicutza said: So the question is, as a general rule, am I better off exchanging cash in the airport/exchange office or paying with my citibank? Airport exchange rates are known to be bad so I would think CC is still better. How about using a debit card at an ATM?As a "general rul" I'd say CC -- even citibank, if you absolutely must (I wouldn't use that CC!) -- but that doesn't mean always. I personally prefer CCs for general travelling abroad for the convenience & protection you get, as SIS points out. However in special circumstances you might find it worthwhile to go with an ATM.
MarkM said: monicutza said: So the question is, as a general rule, am I better off exchanging cash in the airport/exchange office or paying with my citibank? Airport exchange rates are known to be bad so I would think CC is still better. How about using a debit card at an ATM?As a "general rul" I'd say CC -- even citibank, if you absolutely must (I wouldn't use that CC!) -- but that doesn't mean always. I personally prefer CCs for general travelling abroad for the convenience & protection you get, as SIS points out. However in special circumstances you might find it worthwhile to go with an ATM. For example, my wife has family in Mexico & she (and sometimes I) go there for weeks, and shop at many places that don't take CCs. We have found that an HSBC ATM card, used in machines owned by their Mexican subsidiary Bital, give us the best exchange rate possible, just about 1.1% above interbank internal rates (CCs typical give you a rate 2% above, and then add the fees discussed here), with no ATM fee. But I only bothered to search that out because of the special circumstances I mentioned & because we need to move thousands of $ cash to Mexico each year.
a bank may charge conversion fee for withdrawing cash from ATM too.
MarkM
Tired Member
posted: May. 25, 2004 @ 9:35a
fotomaniak said: a bank may charge conversion fee for withdrawing cash from ATM too.Yes, as I stated in my first sentence, CCs are probably better than ATMs as a general rule, before I went on to give a possible exception to the rule.
just got my fleet cc statement for last month, here is an example of the rates i got while in london. on april 22 when the interbank range for GBP was 1.7627 to 1.7764, i got 1.7845, no other additional fees on my statement.
seems that HSBC would be a good back for those who travel/bank internationally...thoughts? maybe a new thread on international banking??
UncaMikey
Happy Member
posted: Jun. 1, 2004 @ 2:12p
Another good card for foreign currency transactions is the USAA MasterCard, which does not tack on any additional fees to the 1% MC conversion. We have used the USAA debit card (attached to our checking account) extensively in W. Europe and Central America, withdrawing in both dollars and local currency, and have never been charged any fee.
To answer other questions, I would never exchange money other than through an ATM. ATMs are ubiquitous, safe, easy, and by far the cheapest and most convenient way to get foreign currency. We charge where possible and use ATM/cash when necessary. You can't buy crêpes on the streets of Paris with a cc! LOL.
AFO
Happy Member
posted: Jun. 1, 2004 @ 7:45p
Where are all the Indians who would have more experience than most on here with foreign withdrawals and stuff?
CrankyOldGuy
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 20, 2004 @ 10:05p
Does Juniper have any foreign currency fees in addition to the standard Visa/Mastercard 1%?
CrankyOldGuy
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 21, 2004 @ 10:40a
CrankyOldGuy said: Does Juniper have any foreign currency fees in addition to the standard Visa/Mastercard 1%? Come on people. One of you douchebags must know the answer.
CrankyOldGuy said: The answer is 2% above the standard Visa/Mastercard 1%. No thanks to you people.
Such bad service!
What do you want, a refund?
babamy
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 18, 2004 @ 6:03a
MarkM said: a bank may charge conversion fee for withdrawing cash from ATM too.
Netbank don't charge any ATM fees abroad. But i dn't know what are the fees on exchange rate.
MarkM
Tired Member
posted: Jul. 18, 2004 @ 6:34a
meehawl said: CrankyOldGuy said: The answer is 2% above the standard Visa/Mastercard 1%. No thanks to you people.
Such bad service!
What do you want, a refund?LOL.
CrankyOldGuy
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 18, 2004 @ 9:38p
MarkM said: May I suggest no one ever respond to a COG post/taunt. That's my resolution Awww, I'm crushed - the stay at home dad won't be answering my question. Thankfully, I don't have many stay at home dad type questions
Just returned from trip to Spain (planned to go there before I knew of their lame buckling to terror...) I used international ATM withdrawal from my Chase account, Visa issued by Chase and an AMEX card for charges in a 2 week period. AMEX gave me the best rate it seems.
The rates I got were:
AMEX ~ 1.24 $/Euro International ATM (including all fees for a withdrawal of 300 Euros) ~1.26 $/Euro Chase Visa ~ 1.28 $/Euro
I didnt account however for variation in the daily exchange rate Euro/$ during this time period.
mrbean
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jul. 19, 2004 @ 1:23p
USrules said: I didnt account however for variation in the daily exchange rate Euro/$ during this time period.
Then your conclusion that AMEX is the cheapest is not valid. Over a 2-week period, exchange rate alone can fluctuate between 1.24 to 1.28 easily.
mdg007 said: I am planning on using my Compass ATM in Thailand next month, so I have been discussing the fees, etc., with my bank (in Texas.)
They say that if I am charged any "fee" on either side of the ATM transaction I can send them a copy OD th receipt and they will pay it back into my account. Better get that in writing
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