Ok, and now for something a bit different than my other thread. Let's pile on the statistics!
For those who have graduated college, let's put a realistic image for soon-to-be-grads (common for our genre to overestimate). I know this board has a more than average number of computer geeks, but this will serve as a good reference.
When you graduated college, what was your first job as? How was the pay and benefits. What was your degree level and major in?
Graduated in 1997 from Wake Forest University with a B.S. in chemistry. Graduated in 2001 from Duke University with a Ph.D. in chemistry. First job = scientist in a contract research organization, salary ~ $65k plus benefits
I've got to admit to all those on the fence...get a graduate degree. You will thank yourself down the road for many reasons!
fugabear
Broke Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2004 @ 7:49p
My brother graduated from pharmacy school last year and makes $120k... me? umm, still need a job.. cs major.
Graduated in 1988 with a B.A. in Computer Science from an IL university.
Got my 1st degree-related job in 1989 as a mainframe Cobol programmer making $24K/yr, fortune 500 company, excellent benefits. Got the job through the want-ads.
I got a J.D. [that's a law degree for all y'all southerners] from a [very] good university. My first job was with the prosecutor's office at $26,000 p.a.
Great job. Starvation pay. I quickly moved into the private sector.
P.S. This was 1996.
brokestudent
Broke Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2004 @ 8:27p
me - graduated recently with an MIS degree, CS minor, got a job at a large bank in a new training program for top graduates to be "groomed" for a career in IT management...currently make under 40K but when i finish the program i will be getting more - hopefully!!! the benefits here are excellent, insurance, great 401k and tution payment.
my SO - graduated with me, same degree...got a position at a large healthcare company. they are recovering from a major scandal and laid off/lost a lot of people. he was able into a training program with them only making 30K but with 10K raise each year for the next 3 years. his beneifts are about equal, his insurance is cheaper, and they don't pay for grad school but do pay for certifications.
we live in the south east, so we are easily able to live on our incomes. so far we are both happy with our positions and look to stay with these companies for a while.
TheJollyGreenGiant
Senior Member - 10K
posted: Mar. 8, 2004 @ 8:31p
juniorjam said:
<< Graduated in 1997 from Wake Forest University with a B.S. in chemistry. Graduated in 2001 from Duke University with a Ph.D. in chemistry. First job = scientist in a contract research organization, salary ~ $65k plus benefits
I've got to admit to all those on the fence...get a graduate degree. You will thank yourself down the road for many reasons! >>
How could a good Deacon soil himself by becoming a Devil? Graduated from Wake myself with a politics degree and have held a variety of political positions. Starting salary first year of career was only $27,000 but was more for the experience than anything.
I have a BA in Liberal Arts. My first job out of college was as a Flight Attendant (research project), at $32k a year. My first *real* job was a year later, at a software design firm for $35k + major options and other benefits.
Graduated from a local university with B.S. in Electrical Engineering. Starting pay was $45k in Oct 03. Thinking about going back to get an MBA soon.
JBannanas
Frivolous Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2004 @ 9:08p
Graduated from U of Delaware in 2000 w/ a BS in Finance. Started work for a financial information company at 32K plus bonus, now making 52K plus bonus...but I really can't stand my job.
thepragmatist
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2004 @ 9:11p
marketingmike said:
<< I got a J.D. [that's a law degree for all y'all southerners] from a [very] good university. My first job was with the prosecutor's office at $26,000 p.a.
Great job. Starvation pay. I quickly moved into the private sector.
P.S. This was 1996. >>
You obviously didn't finish in the top 10%.
DSP1283
Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2004 @ 9:20p
Graduated from Univ of Maryland with DIS degree in 2001 Work at mortgage company writing softwares, started at $35K, now making $59K
I think I posted this in one of the other employement threads, but it was so long ago, I don't remember...
Anyway, graduated with a BS in engineering from a very good school (not ivy league, but a great engineering school). Went straight to work in finance on wall st. Salary first couple years was like:
1st year: $70k 2nd year: $90k 3rd year: $120k
smellymeow
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2004 @ 9:54p
BSBA in Finance/economics 1999.
1st job was a staff accountant for a large company at 23k. good benefits, though, 100% medical, dental, vision. Also 401k, 3 weeks vacation, stock options (could never use them before i left because of the lousy market.)
Yellowcrze
Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2004 @ 10:10p
UC Riverside, Bus Admin Degree in 2002 and got a job paying 43k as an insurance adjuster.
Graduated in 2000, major BA in Computer Science (Yes, BA not BS, don't know why... did not get a chance to ask at the time) First job: programmer/analyst 60K
snfsma
Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2004 @ 11:49p
Graduated in 1999 from small public university in PA with a B.S. in Computer Science. 1st job at large pharmaceutical co making $45k. Currently getting M.S. in Information Systems and am now making just under $72k.
Graduated in 99 BS in Computer Science Worked in support for a software company. 46K w/great benefits. free beer friday, sand volleyball court, foosball, pool table (2 miles from my parent's house). Only lasted 18 months.
I graduated in 2002 from a top liberal arts college in the Northeast. BA in Economics. Been working as a research assistant at a well-known and top ranked hospital (according to US News and World Report anyway). The benefits are great. But pay really sucks. Even after two raises, I am still only making $30K. My starting salary was $20K.
Definitely need to go back to school soon. Can't live on this salary much longer. , discovering FW, however, definitely helped me a lot!
retihsuhnt
Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 11:52a
Im with wcfw, after reading all of these Im not feeling too hot.
Anyway I graduated from a public university in OR on 12/2001 with a BS in Poly Sci. Ive been working as a legal assistant for two (2) years now and making $25K a year. (The sad thing is that I know people that didnt complete HS and are making double what I am, go figure.)
PhillyGuy
Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 11:59a
Graduated in 2001 from a public university in PA w/Bachelors in Computer Engineering. 1st job at local firm writing software for 65K. Got Masters in Software Engineering while working and moved on to job writing software for a different industry w/pay of 75K.
Currently looking at more education for a different field...
alwaysTempted
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 12:03p
Graduated from a University of California in June 2000 with a BS in Computer Science. Started out at $60k after signing a "letter of intent" 9 months prior to graduation.
Four years and three jobs later, absolutely hate what I do and am looking for something new. However, am reluctant to go back to school (already 26) and do not want to take a drastic paycut.
ChampagneDan
Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 12:22p
After graduating from law school in June 2002, I went to work for The Man at $125k pa. The bonus was $17.5k. Now as a second-year I'm up to $135k. I love the law, but the big New York law firm gig is pretty lame. I don't know how long I'll last, and I'm always trying to think of alternatives. As someone has already pointed out, some of the more fun opportunities (e.g., prosecutors, legal aid) pay very badly.
Graduated in '97 with a BS in Information Systems First job was doing Desktop Support - Starting pay $27k Been at current job as Network Admin for almost 5 years making about double the pay now.
Skeet
LilithQ
Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 12:40p
Graduated 2001 B.S. in Engineering, Minor CS from University of Colorado - Boulder. 1st (and current) job: Product testing @ large company, $54k, typical benefits, avg. 40 hours/week. Raise ~$10k after 1.5 years.
I had just okay grades, but lots of quality internships and a networking connection.
smellymeow
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 12:45p
wcfw said:
<< man, reading these posts make me kinda depressed.
I graduated in 2002 from a top liberal arts college in the Northeast. BA in Economics. Been working as a research assistant at a well-known and top ranked hospital (according to US News and World Report anyway). The benefits are great. But pay really sucks. Even after two raises, I am still only making $30K. My starting salary was $20K.
Definitely need to go back to school soon. Can't live on this salary much longer. , discovering FW, however, definitely helped me a lot! >>
i have the same major and i guess it just simply doesnt pay much. i started at 23k and left at 30k. my husband is in computer science and he made more than me before he even had his degree, i would have to work at my old job for like 10+ years to ever make his entry level post degree salary. a lot of people are cs on this board thats why the numbers are so high.
daeagle
Addicted Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 12:55p
I am college student trying to figure out what I want to do. How did you get into finance with an engineering degree?
Thanks
hector13 said:
<< I think I posted this in one of the other employement threads, but it was so long ago, I don't remember...
Anyway, graduated with a BS in engineering from a very good school (not ivy league, but a great engineering school). Went straight to work in finance on wall st. Salary first couple years was like:
<< I am college student trying to figure out what I want to do. How did you get into finance with an engineering degree?
>>
My advice is to not get distracted by salaries you see. Obviously making a lot is a bonus, but doing something you enjoy or something you are passionate about is much more fulfilling, and more often than not will probably lead to future higher pay than you would receive doing something you hate.
I'm in the same boat as many others here -- I make a ton of money but my job is boring to me and I feel like I'm not reaching my full potential as far as my contribution to the human race (sorry if that's too deep for you). As soon as I have enough to retire or when I get downsized, I'll be looking to do something I that I actually enjoy (like full time specuation), or something that I can truly be passionate about (like missions work or writing my own software or chasing after terrorists ).
CS BS degree from state school. First job was $46k and quickly moved higher from there: Year 1 46k Year 2 55k Year 3 100k ... Year x 1XXk
Jefro
Happy Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 1:41p
Funny how the $$ doesn't =
The money will come and go, but who wants to have worked their whole life for $$ and end up 65 and trying to live like they are 25?
smellymeow
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 3:28p
Jefro said:
<< Funny how the $$ doesn't =
The money will come and go, but who wants to have worked their whole life for $$ and end up 65 and trying to live like they are 25? >>
well, it is better making more money with a job you don't like, than less with a job you don't like.
Elbryn
Thrifty Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 3:39p
graduated summer '02 from Ohio State with Electrical/Computer engineering degree. first job was part time 24 hours a week, made about 19k a year at a large hospital in columbus. Moved to full time 32k, then moved into desktop support at 37k.
Graduated - June 2003 with a BA in Business Economics from University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) First Job - Quality Assurance Engineer Salary - $40,000-$50,000
I know they are a big financial company with locations everywhere including my local Beantown (Boston) - but that's basically it.
They just e-mailed me asking for an interview. Found my resume through my college directory.
Thoughts? I am not even majoring in financial?
Boreal21
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 4:55p
Unless it's a major inconvenience to go interview I say go for it. Pretty much every interview I have been through has been a good learning experience. This could be opportunity knocking, but more likely they want you to hawk some of their financial wares
K... my experience... graduated 12/1999 with a BA in Accounting and a minor in Spanish from a state college in Utah. A recruiter from a local firm came to campus and offered me a job. I started 3/2000 as a general ledger acct for $28K/year. This was the first job offered and I took it (even tho they say one of the worst mistakes recent grads make is accepting the first offer). I was a bit nervous about the future job market as this was right near the tech bubble burst. Plus there were very few employers looking to hire grads with no experience. I got a $1K raise 6 months later when I moved to the Internal Audit dept as there was some travel required (~20%). I have since changed companies and am right around $40K/year after bonus. Not where I'd like to be salary-wise, but the company is great and there is plenty of potential for advancement, especially after I finish up my MBA next summer (on the company's dime ).
shazbot
Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2004 @ 5:11p
graduating in may from univ. of maryland w/ Finance + DIS degree. current job offer of 52.
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grimani
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 15, 2004 @ 3:26a
hobokrod said: Analog circuit design engineer.
i hear that you guys deserve every single penny earned..
didn't intersil acquire xicor just for its engineers?
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