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Just FYI:

Capital One has lowered the minimum on their regular CDs from $10,000 to $5,000.

They have also introduced a third type of CD that has a lower initial rate than the regular CD, but whose interest rate can be increased once during its term at your request. Also a $5,000 minimum.

Capital One Regular CDs.

Capital One No Regrets CDs.

Message edited by: uggabugga on 06/21/2004 21:00:54
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Effective yesterday, 06/25/04, ING has raised their 1 year and 2 year CD:

1 year - from 2.25% to 2.6% APY
2 year - from 2.875% to 3.1% APY

OP, please update if possible.


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Thanks for the thread. You might want to include 6 months penfed CD rate of 1.4% .


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nm

Message edited by: tooshy on 06/28/2004 03:30:10
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Stupid question, but I had to ask:

For the Capital One 1 month CD, if I reinvest every month @0.85%, my annual interest earnings will be over 10%. So I'm assuming there must be a fee to place your money in a CD, otherwise re-investing every month is sure-fire way to earn over 10% per year...right??


holla


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That's annualized rate, not monthly rate.


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Not sure if anyone is interested, but DCU has a special 7 month Cd at 2.25 % APY. I got one to help with early laddering.

DCU

should have added $2500 min.

Message edited by: tjwoody on 06/28/2004 15:27:32
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c3 said:That's annualized rate, not monthly rate.

ahh...that makes more sense


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labboypro said:I've got about $20k at ING in regular savings earning 2.1%. I looked at CDs and decided there was no real upside for the nominal rate increase... but it locked my money down for minimum 1 year. Just didn't seem worth it these days.

If you put the money in a 5-year CD at 4.5% with 6-month early withdrawl penalty, you'll get 0% after 6 months and 2.25% after 1 year. At 1 year, that's about the same as regular savings, allowing some rate increases over the next year. However, after 1 year, the CD earns 4.5% a year, and you can take the money out at any time. The 6-month penalty is already "paid for" in the first year.


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Capital One probably has the most complicated early withdrawl penalty, base on "Economic Replacement Value". Start from link here, click "Disclosure" under "Certificates of Deposit", and scroll down to "EARLY WITHDRAWAL PENALTY INFORMATION".


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c3 said:If you put the money in a 5-year CD at 4.5% with 6-month early withdrawl penalty, you'll get 0% after 6 months and 2.25% after 1 year. At 1 year, that's about the same as regular savings, allowing some rate increases over the next year. However, after 1 year, the CD earns 4.5% a year, and you can take the money out at any time. The 6-month penalty is already "paid for" in the first year.

ING's early withdrawal penalty is worse than the standard 6-month penalty. From the website:

As with any CD, should you decide to withdraw your money before the end of the term, certain penalties would apply. The penalty is effectively one-half (½) of all interest accrued on your deposit since the account was opened or renewed. In most cases this rate is still higher than most banks are offering on savings accounts.

I like their CD rates, but that early withdrawal penalty is rough.


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Goth said:ING's early withdrawal penalty is worse than the standard 6-month penalty.

Yes, and that's why I wouldn't put money in ING's CDs.


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Costco members can get a slightly higher rate from Capital One (and Costco Executive Members get a $25 bonus). Costco page (click on CDs and MM acct link)

They only add about 0.05% for CDs, but for the MM acct it bumps the APY from the current 1.75% to 2.11%.

Message edited by: armus on 2004-07-04 11:06:31
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Hello!

I love Fatwallet for all the money I have saved (or blown on useless stuff), and so I decided to post to give back to the FW community with the knowledge that I have acquired in my profession.

CD's have historically not been a good long term investment. Some of you may remember when CD's used to pay double digits. But the problem does not lie in CD rates. The problem lies in inflation. Over the last 40-50 years, inflation averages 5 percent, or 4.92 to be more accurate. When CD's paid double digits, inflation was also double digits. For those unfamiliar with inflation, a house 30 years ago that cost 40,000 is now 375-400k today. Imagine another 30 years from today what that house will cost.

In comparison, 40,000 invested 30 years ago at 4.4% ING CD (hypothetically speaking) will get you 145,571 today - BEFORE TAXES. Keep in mind that CD's are taxed annually if you make $10 or more in interest per year. So that means your return is actually a lot less.

Throw in the penalties for early access before maturity, and CD's aren't such a hot deal.

CD's make some sense if you have a lump sum of money and you need to access all of it in the very short term, ie: needing a down payment for a house in 2 years.

You guys definitely do your homework! But if you're looking long-term, invest the right way, look for tax-deferred / tax-free vehicles, and you're on your way.

Hope this helps, and thx FW for helping me stretch my dollar!


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i see dcu has a 3.00% APY with direct deposit on their 11 month CD. Seems great to me esp. for laddering.


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ING has lowered their 5 year CD effective 7/24/04. From 4.40% to 4.25% APY.


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Effective Aug 7, 2004, ING just tanked all their CD's:

Term APY Interest Rate
Effective Date
1 Year 2.50% 2.50% 08/07/04
2 Years 2.875% 2.875% 08/07/04
3 Years 3.35% 3.35% 08/07/04
4 Years 3.90% 3.90% 08/07/04
5 Years 4.00% 4.00% 08/07/04

Weak...


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Someone earlier had posted this very helpful site to monitor up-to-date CD rates.

Some of the banks listed seem regional like Intervest NB in New York and Farmers Bank in Ohio. Their CD rates are very competitive.

In particular, Farmers Bank
has a LifePlus CD where you can opt to change a 3 yr CD once and a 5 yr CD twice (3.35 and 4.39 initial rates respectively). Does anyone know if anyone can join? They seem rather inaccessible, no toll-free number.

Message edited by: tooshy on 2004-08-11 21:00:41
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USAA Rate

Fixed 30 Months 3.07 3.11 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 36 Months 3.30 3.35 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 48 Months 3.69 3.75 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 60 Months 4.46 4.55 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 84 Months 4.50 4.59 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 36 Months ARC* 3.05 3.09 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 48 Months ARC* 3.44 3.49 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 60 Months ARC* 4.21 4.29 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 84 Months ARC* 4.25 4.33 Min Dep $1,000

*Rate will be adjusted to new, higher rate one time. Maximum adjustable-rate CD increase is 2%

a) Three hundred sixty five (365) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms of seven years or more.
b) One hundred eighty (180) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms greater than one year to less than seven years.
c) Ninety (90) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms of one year or less.

So, I think its 5-year fixed is good. Do you think so?


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Which bank is USAA? I googled it, seems no hit. Thanks!

CornHusker said:USAA Rate

Fixed 30 Months 3.07 3.11 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 36 Months 3.30 3.35 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 48 Months 3.69 3.75 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 60 Months 4.46 4.55 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 84 Months 4.50 4.59 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 36 Months ARC* 3.05 3.09 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 48 Months ARC* 3.44 3.49 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 60 Months ARC* 4.21 4.29 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 84 Months ARC* 4.25 4.33 Min Dep $1,000

*Rate will be adjusted to new, higher rate one time. Maximum adjustable-rate CD increase is 2%

a) Three hundred sixty five (365) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms of seven years or more.
b) One hundred eighty (180) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms greater than one year to less than seven years.
c) Ninety (90) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms of one year or less.

So, I think its 5-year fixed is good. Do you think so?


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