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www.usaa.com

averyginger said:Which bank is USAA? I googled it, seems no hit. Thanks!

CornHusker said:USAA Rate

Fixed 30 Months 3.07 3.11 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 36 Months 3.30 3.35 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 48 Months 3.69 3.75 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 60 Months 4.46 4.55 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 84 Months 4.50 4.59 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 36 Months ARC* 3.05 3.09 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 48 Months ARC* 3.44 3.49 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 60 Months ARC* 4.21 4.29 Min Dep $1,000
Fixed 84 Months ARC* 4.25 4.33 Min Dep $1,000

*Rate will be adjusted to new, higher rate one time. Maximum adjustable-rate CD increase is 2%

a) Three hundred sixty five (365) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms of seven years or more.
b) One hundred eighty (180) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms greater than one year to less than seven years.
c) Ninety (90) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms of one year or less.

So, I think its 5-year fixed is good. Do you think so?


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Capital One beats USAA rates. But requires $5,000 minimum deposit.


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current best 36 month CD rate is at PATELCO credit union.

www.patelco.com


4.07% APY 36 month


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Pretty sure this has been mentioned before but Patelco no longer is NCUA insured, they switched to private insurance, I've got money there and the 407 is a great rate; but it's a significant point.


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tooshy said:Bankrate article

Has anyone bought CDs from a broker before? Can anyone share their experiences? The article mentions the pros/cons of buying CDs from a broker. I'm wondering as interest rates start to climb, whether this is a better route or worse, or just another option.


Been buying CDs and bonds from the large brokerage houses for years. Their rates are usually a little higher although lately that's not been quite so. They do have creative products like inflation linked Cds. Their CDs are also liquid. But you have to have an account with them and that usually costs about $100/yr. There's no additional charge to buy CDs.----z


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zeego said:

Been buying CDs and bonds from the large brokerage houses for years. Their rates are usually a little higher although lately that's not been quite so. They do have creative products like inflation linked Cds. Their CDs are also liquid. But you have to have an account with them and that usually costs about $100/yr. There's no additional charge to buy CDs.----z


Is this a fund management $100/yr fee? Otherwise to buy CDs would there be a broker's fee?

CD rates change weekly for the most part so it is a challenge to monitor these. Sites that monitor and report the best CD rates in the market are very helpful, like Bauer Financial (see link in my earlier post above).

MBNA has a special for Platinum Plus customers which is a slightly higher rate and lower minimum deposit requirement than published. According to the CSR, a 5 yr pays 4.7 instead of 4.6 and the minimum is lowered to 2.5K from 10K. The flyer came with the CashBack Platinum Plus statement, 1-800-577-3506, priority code QC031. Funding is by check or wire transfer only.


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It's an annual acct fee, like an annual fee for some cc's. They say it pays for the administrative costs of the acct, whatever. If you own mutual funds, stocks or bonds with the brokerage house, the Cds go into the same account. There's no broker fee for the CDs, they're paid by the banks for issuing and selling the CDs. The discount brokers may not have this high an annual fee if any, but I have no experience with them or their CD inventories. You're right, the brokerage houses usually don't show their CD rates on their websites, you need to call or have an acct.

Your link, Toosh, to Bauer Financial was very helpful. Those rates are competitive with the brokerage houses, but as said earlier I like the inflation linked CDs and the liquidity at the brokerage houses. At banks the CDs are time deposits only, the brokerage houses treat them like bonds..-----z

Message edited by: zeego on 2004-08-14 13:48:55
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Edit: Double post

Message edited by: zeego on 2004-08-14 13:42:23
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um, are there any sites that show CD rates for local banks?


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Found a local (Philadelphia area) credit union with pretty good rates:

60 Month 5.00%
48 Month 4.50%
36 Month 4.00%
24 Month 3.25%
12 Month 2.70%
6 Month 1.75%
3 Month 1.01%

Linked

The penalty for early withdrawl is 180 days interest. In order to join, you need to work for one of the affiliated companies, most are local to the Philadelphia area, although some are broader in scope. You can also join if you are related to a member. I am not sure how strict the membership rules are.

Hope this helps some people...


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PSECU.com in PA has a 5yr CD @4.5% with a only 90 day interest penalty for early withdrawal. If you think about it, this could be a 4.25% 1 yr CD. Skeretz44's post is 4.5% with the one year bust. Maybe we should start listing the best CDs with a 1 yr bust rate.----z


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zeego said:PSECU.com in PA has a 5yr CD @4.5% with a only 90 day interest penalty for early withdrawal. If you think about it, this could be a 4.25% 1 yr CD. Skeretz44's post is 4.5% with the one year bust. Maybe we should start listing the best CDs with a 1 yr bust rate.----z

Excellent idea about listing CDs with the best effective rates if you close out a longer term CD after one year.

I think though that you miscalculated the rate for the PSECU CD in your post. The effective rate would be 3.39%, still a very good rate for a one year CD. (365-90=275 275/365 x 4.5 = 3.39)


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Thanks for the accurate correction. It's late and I have no idea how that erroneous calculation misfired in my neurons.----z


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how about this one:
http://www.ascenciabank.com/PersonalBanking/PersonalCD.asp

6 Month CD 2.33% 2.36% $500 $75,000
1 Year CD (12 Months) 2.80% 2.84% $500 $75,000
2 Year CD (24 Months) 3.37% 3.42% $500 $75,000

looks good to me..


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I'm new to the site and I'm finding valuable info. I went to bankrate.com and saw Nexity had a good rate for cds. Is there anyone familiar with Nexity?


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I REALLY like the idea of posting "best near risk free return you can get for a one year period". So far, PSECU.com's 3.39% is the best deal I've been able to locate (although real APY might be slightly less due to lack of factoring compounding -- i.e. interest in the last three months is slightly higher than interest in the first 3 months).

I started researching with the best listed rates on bankrate.com for a 5 year, but if my calling around is any indication, most banks have much more severe penalties for busts. Capital One charges the greater of 6 months interest or the economic replacement cost (for example if rates went up 2% you multiply 2% times CD amount times years left on CD to calculate your penalty). I also called MBNA who had a lower 4.6% rate and a serious penalty calculated as the interest due on the entire time period left on the CD (so for example if you bust a 5 year CD after one year you are charged 4 years worth of interest).

Anyone know if the PSECU 3 month only interest penalty is rare?? How did you even find that place? Anyone actually have an account with them? Seems like a great deal to me. Anyone know of a better one year low risk return? I will probably use these for the latest 0% credit card deals. Beats ING or any money market, and beats any one year CD.


srenna said:zeego said:PSECU.com in PA has a 5yr CD @4.5% with a only 90 day interest penalty for early withdrawal. If you think about it, this could be a 4.25% 1 yr CD. Skeretz44's post is 4.5% with the one year bust. Maybe we should start listing the best CDs with a 1 yr bust rate.----z

Excellent idea about listing CDs with the best effective rates if you close out a longer term CD after one year.

I think though that you miscalculated the rate for the PSECU CD in your post. The effective rate would be 3.39%, still a very good rate for a one year CD. (365-90=275 275/365 x 4.5 = 3.39)

Message edited by: MarketVViz on 2004-08-20 18:24:50
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There are probably better rates out there, but just FYI

I got this from my alumni association, but it doesn't say you need to be a member or anything.

MBNA - Minimum $2500
Rates valid 8/16/04 - 8/29/04
60 month - 4.70% APY
36 month - 3.75% APY
24 month - 3.21% APY
18 month - 3.00% APY
12 month - 2.65% APY

To check current yields or to open account, call 1-800-414-1220. Please mention priority code LB09M.
Monday through Friday 8am - 8pm, and Sat 8 to 5 Eastern time. Some other standard fine print....


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it looks like to join PSECU you have to at least be affiliated with an PA organization to be eligible to join....


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MarketVViz said:I REALLY like the idea of posting "best near risk free return you can get for a one year period". So far, PSECU.com's 3.39% is the best deal I've been able to locate (although real APY might be slightly less due to lack of factoring compounding -- i.e. interest in the last three months is slightly higher than interest in the first 3 months).


Anyone know if the PSECU 3 month only interest penalty is rare?? How did you even find that place? Anyone actually have an account with them? Seems like a great deal to me. Anyone know of a better one year low risk return? I will probably use these for the latest 0% credit card deals. Beats ING or any money market, and beats any one year CD."


--I've been with PSECU for many years and it's an above average CU. Their website is decent, internal transfers are a breeze, they offer the system where one can input a check electronically for immediate deposit (similar to the coming Check21 system) and then snail mail it in (I just use ATMS though). Like most CU's, they're easy to join since you just have to be "related" to an eligible employee of the state institutions.

Never busted a CD with them yet, but overall they're easy to deal with.--z

PS If we find other CU's with excellent rates with or without busts we may want to establish a conga line of all eligible cousins in the FW community.

Message edited by: zeego on 2004-08-21 00:30:08
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Watermark CU. Website

30 month CD - 4% APY with one-time bump up option

Not sure about early withdrawal penalty. Will call & update tomorrow.


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