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uppchy said: I would rather use Pentagon CU than ING due to the early withdrawal policy.
DisciplinedHedg6 said: ING with 4.4/4.4% is the best with me because they have no minimums. I put away 1k a month into CDs.
Yeah...I considered that, too. But I figured I would also be opening up an ING account in the future, and it'll be easier to link/access accounts.
Also, as silly as it sounds, the penalty at ING will hopefully have a perverse effect on me and force me to keep CDs in there for the full duration rather than viewing the penalty as beneficial so that I can get the money whenever I want.
But you still have to consider the rate change in the future. What if the rate jumps? This may not happen though.
DisciplinedHedg6 said: uppchy said: I would rather use Pentagon CU than ING due to the early withdrawal policy.
DisciplinedHedg6 said: ING with 4.4/4.4% is the best with me because they have no minimums. I put away 1k a month into CDs.
Yeah...I considered that, too. But I figured I would also be opening up an ING account in the future, and it'll be easier to link/access accounts.
Also, as silly as it sounds, the penalty at ING will hopefully have a perverse effect on me and force me to keep CDs in there for the full duration rather than viewing the penalty as beneficial so that I can get the money whenever I want.
I know what you're saying. But the whole idea of a CD, at least for me, is to lock in a rate which modestly better than savings rates and save over time.
If you start going over the line, and want to time rate changes, then its a whole different ballgame and you are better off using different instruments.
uppchy said: But you still have to consider the rate change in the future. What if the rate jumps? This may not happen though.
DisciplinedHedg6 said: uppchy said: I would rather use Pentagon CU than ING due to the early withdrawal policy.
DisciplinedHedg6 said: ING with 4.4/4.4% is the best with me because they have no minimums. I put away 1k a month into CDs.
Yeah...I considered that, too. But I figured I would also be opening up an ING account in the future, and it'll be easier to link/access accounts.
Also, as silly as it sounds, the penalty at ING will hopefully have a perverse effect on me and force me to keep CDs in there for the full duration rather than viewing the penalty as beneficial so that I can get the money whenever I want.
if interest rates will be going up in the short term (which everything seems to be pointing that way), wouldn't this be a bad time to be locking in 5 year rates?
I've got about $20k at ING in regular savings earning 2.1%. I looked at CDs and decided there was no real upside for the nominal rate increase... but it locked my money down for minimum 1 year. Just didn't seem worth it these days.
Has anyone bought CDs from a broker before? Can anyone share their experiences? The article mentions the pros/cons of buying CDs from a broker. I'm wondering as interest rates start to climb, whether this is a better route or worse, or just another option.
Capital One has lowered the minimum on their regular CDs from $10,000 to $5,000.
They have also introduced a third type of CD that has a lower initial rate than the regular CD, but whose interest rate can be increased once during its term at your request. Also a $5,000 minimum.
For the Capital One 1 month CD, if I reinvest every month @0.85%, my annual interest earnings will be over 10%. So I'm assuming there must be a fee to place your money in a CD, otherwise re-investing every month is sure-fire way to earn over 10% per year...right??
labboypro said: I've got about $20k at ING in regular savings earning 2.1%. I looked at CDs and decided there was no real upside for the nominal rate increase... but it locked my money down for minimum 1 year. Just didn't seem worth it these days.
If you put the money in a 5-year CD at 4.5% with 6-month early withdrawl penalty, you'll get 0% after 6 months and 2.25% after 1 year. At 1 year, that's about the same as regular savings, allowing some rate increases over the next year. However, after 1 year, the CD earns 4.5% a year, and you can take the money out at any time. The 6-month penalty is already "paid for" in the first year.
Capital One probably has the most complicated early withdrawl penalty, base on "Economic Replacement Value". Start from link here, click "Disclosure" under "Certificates of Deposit", and scroll down to "EARLY WITHDRAWAL PENALTY INFORMATION".
c3 said: If you put the money in a 5-year CD at 4.5% with 6-month early withdrawl penalty, you'll get 0% after 6 months and 2.25% after 1 year. At 1 year, that's about the same as regular savings, allowing some rate increases over the next year. However, after 1 year, the CD earns 4.5% a year, and you can take the money out at any time. The 6-month penalty is already "paid for" in the first year.
ING's early withdrawal penalty is worse than the standard 6-month penalty. From the website:
As with any CD, should you decide to withdraw your money before the end of the term, certain penalties would apply. The penalty is effectively one-half (½) of all interest accrued on your deposit since the account was opened or renewed. In most cases this rate is still higher than most banks are offering on savings accounts.
I like their CD rates, but that early withdrawal penalty is rough.
I love Fatwallet for all the money I have saved (or blown on useless stuff), and so I decided to post to give back to the FW community with the knowledge that I have acquired in my profession.
CD's have historically not been a good long term investment. Some of you may remember when CD's used to pay double digits. But the problem does not lie in CD rates. The problem lies in inflation. Over the last 40-50 years, inflation averages 5 percent, or 4.92 to be more accurate. When CD's paid double digits, inflation was also double digits. For those unfamiliar with inflation, a house 30 years ago that cost 40,000 is now 375-400k today. Imagine another 30 years from today what that house will cost.
In comparison, 40,000 invested 30 years ago at 4.4% ING CD (hypothetically speaking) will get you 145,571 today - BEFORE TAXES. Keep in mind that CD's are taxed annually if you make $10 or more in interest per year. So that means your return is actually a lot less.
Throw in the penalties for early access before maturity, and CD's aren't such a hot deal.
CD's make some sense if you have a lump sum of money and you need to access all of it in the very short term, ie: needing a down payment for a house in 2 years.
You guys definitely do your homework! But if you're looking long-term, invest the right way, look for tax-deferred / tax-free vehicles, and you're on your way.
Hope this helps, and thx FW for helping me stretch my dollar!
Effective Aug 7, 2004, ING just tanked all their CD's:
Term APY Interest Rate Effective Date 1 Year 2.50% 2.50% 08/07/04 2 Years 2.875% 2.875% 08/07/04 3 Years 3.35% 3.35% 08/07/04 4 Years 3.90% 3.90% 08/07/04 5 Years 4.00% 4.00% 08/07/04
Someone earlier had posted this very helpful site to monitor up-to-date CD rates.
Some of the banks listed seem regional like Intervest NB in New York and Farmers Bank in Ohio. Their CD rates are very competitive.
In particular, Farmers Bank has a LifePlus CD where you can opt to change a 3 yr CD once and a 5 yr CD twice (3.35 and 4.39 initial rates respectively). Does anyone know if anyone can join? They seem rather inaccessible, no toll-free number.
Fixed 30 Months 3.07 3.11 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 36 Months 3.30 3.35 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 48 Months 3.69 3.75 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 60 Months 4.46 4.55 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 84 Months 4.50 4.59 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 36 Months ARC* 3.05 3.09 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 48 Months ARC* 3.44 3.49 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 60 Months ARC* 4.21 4.29 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 84 Months ARC* 4.25 4.33 Min Dep $1,000
*Rate will be adjusted to new, higher rate one time. Maximum adjustable-rate CD increase is 2%
a) Three hundred sixty five (365) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms of seven years or more. b) One hundred eighty (180) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms greater than one year to less than seven years. c) Ninety (90) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms of one year or less.
So, I think its 5-year fixed is good. Do you think so?
Which bank is USAA? I googled it, seems no hit. Thanks!
CornHusker said: USAA Rate
Fixed 30 Months 3.07 3.11 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 36 Months 3.30 3.35 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 48 Months 3.69 3.75 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 60 Months 4.46 4.55 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 84 Months 4.50 4.59 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 36 Months ARC* 3.05 3.09 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 48 Months ARC* 3.44 3.49 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 60 Months ARC* 4.21 4.29 Min Dep $1,000 Fixed 84 Months ARC* 4.25 4.33 Min Dep $1,000
*Rate will be adjusted to new, higher rate one time. Maximum adjustable-rate CD increase is 2%
a) Three hundred sixty five (365) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms of seven years or more. b) One hundred eighty (180) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms greater than one year to less than seven years. c) Ninety (90) days interest on the amount withdrawn on certificates of deposit with terms of one year or less.
So, I think its 5-year fixed is good. Do you think so?
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