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noksagt said:kmith said:It retrieved my accounts correctly, but had "backend errors" when parsing the retrieved balances and transactions.
How do I follow up?
... Search for these errors with google and on the mailing list and in the bug tracker. ...



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gnucash-it: [ Error: 2 ] [ executing: 0 ] [ backend's: 0 ] [ queue,: 0 ] [ TOTAL: 0 ]
gnucash-fr: [ Error: 4 ] [ executing: 0 ] [ backend's: 0 ] [ queue,: 0 ] [ TOTAL: 0 ]
gnucash-es: [ Error: 5 ] [ executing: 0 ] [ backend's: 0 ] [ queue,: 0 ] [ TOTAL: 0 ]
gnucash-de: [ Error: 389 ] [ executing: 6 ] [ backend's: 0 ] [ queue,: 0 ] [ TOTAL: 0 ]
gnucash-br: [ Error: 7 ] [ executing: 0 ] [ backend's: 0 ] [ queue,: 0 ] [ TOTAL: 0 ]
gnucash-user: [ Error: 2174 ] [ executing: 23 ] [ backend's: 5 ] [ queue,: 1 ] [ TOTAL: 0 ]
gnucash-devel: [ Error: 2067 ] [ executing: 38 ] [ backend's: 7 ] [ queue,: 3 ] [ TOTAL: 0 ]
gnucash-announce: [ Error: 11 ] [ executing: 0 ] [ backend's: 0 ] [ queue,: 0 ] [ TOTAL: 0 ]
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Error executing backend's queue.

Invalid token at 's queue,

Google shows others having the same error, but it's a very generic error message.


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noksagt said:kmith said:It retrieved my accounts correctly, but had "backend errors" when parsing the retrieved balances and transactions.
How do I follow up?
... Feel free to PM me, but I might be slow to respond & I don't run it primarily on windows.

Oh, I think that your response is very quick.
I don't think that this error is specific to MS Windows. It may be specific to Fidelity, however.
I'm running GnuCash 2.2.1 built from r16462 on 2007-08-20.


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noksagt said:kmith said:It retrieved my accounts correctly, but had "backend errors" when parsing the retrieved balances and transactions.
How do I follow up?
... Search for these errors with google ...

My apologoes for providing all of these details, but I reall want the subject of this thread, Free and Open Source Finance Applications, to work. Online banking is a big deal.

From Google I get:

Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:28:29 -0700
Subject: OFX problem, windows GNUCash, only one action allowed
Message-ID: <46C0A2CD.4@HotPOP.com>
I'm trying to test out GNUCash for windows and decided to try out the online banking part since that is the most important to me.
GnuCash 2.2.0 Windows 2000 It looks like I can only do one online banking operation then I must quit GnuCash and start it again.
When setting up accounts and downloading account lists I had to do this: Request account list, accept SSL certificate restart GnuCash Request account list, get account list restart GnuCash Get Balance restart GnuCash Get Transactions restart GnuCash
If I don't restart I get: Get Transactions Error executing backend's queue. What shall we do? [Continue] [Abort]
Any idea what might be wrong or how to troubleshoot?

These seem to be current problems. The "restart solution" for 2.2.0 doesn't work in 2.2.1, though. GnuCash still fails.


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I hope that one day a free version of software works without too much of a headache, but reading through this thread convinces me that this is more for techies and hobbyists than for people who want a program that just works out of the box and does everything needed, even if it does force them on the upgrade treadmill. In the end, even spending $70 every three years ($1.94 per month) seems worthwhile given the time saved by not having to learn how to make these open-source programs work. Of course, I continue to hope that something gets developed that is both hassle-free and free-free, as I don't have the time to deal with the hassle.


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DavidScubadiver said:... just works out of the box and does everything needed, even if it does force them on the upgrade treadmill. In the end, even spending $70 every three years ($1.94 per month) seems worthwhile given the time saved by not having to learn how to make these open-source programs work. Of course, I continue to hope that something gets developed that is both hassle-free and free-free, as I don't have the time to deal with the hassle.

good point.
but i hope you're not thinking of Quicken as that program. while Quicken has web connect working, there are rough edges. i recall spending numerous calls [and hours] with tech support trying to get my stock records straight. i had numerous lots bought at different times and different prices. Quicken couldn't get it straight. i finally sold the stock (i'm an indexer now) and the irs hasn't audited me [yet]. that experience taught me a big lesson. keep it simple. don't expect a computer to bail you Out.


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Manual entry & import tends to 'just work' in all of the popular programs (free and open source or proprietary).

The only real issues are with direct import & most of the ones described in this tread are from a single user.

I tend to enter transactions as they occur, to catch bank errors. It is then relatively quick to verify transactions. I do download stock quotes automatically & this is easier than in Money or Quicken (as you don't need to run the full program to get the quotes--you can add it to your cron or your scheduled tasks).

If you trust your bank & want to download transactions, it is possible. But it is more difficult to get setup than Money or Quicken.

The data formats of the F/OSS apps are good & they allow for easier backup/recovery/migration & you aren't trapped into a mandatory & possibly costly update cycle. If you do go with the commercial software, be sure to get the apps free after rebate.


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@kmith:
You might consult this bug. It has a few debugging steps that may give you more info. You can then comment in that bug (if you have the same issue & the comments don't help you resolve it) or can post a new bug (referencing how it is different from the first bug).


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This is a little different, but I think very valuable for investment planning... An asset allocation backtest spreadsheet:

http://www.diehards.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2520&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=afc0a0436d4c34705f9d75844b899298


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noksagt said:Manual entry & import tends to 'just work' in all of the popular programs..
While I certainly want to agree with you, the nightmare scenario I described earlier was based on manual input.
Now I have just five funds based on the BHB model.


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noksagt said:@kmith:
You might consult this bug. It has a few debugging steps that may give you more info. You can then comment in that bug (if you have the same issue & the comments don't help you resolve it) or can post a new bug (referencing how it is different from the first bug).

The bug you link to is the one I found in my Google search and posted earlier to this thread. That bug's solution does not work for me.

Like the earlier poster, I hadn't intended to get this involved in development and testing. But if I can figure out how to post bugs, I'll give it a try.


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Found another java personal finance app for linux and windows (and probably elsewhere with Java).

MJRZ Personal Finance Manager uses double-entry accounting in a package "designed and written to be intuitive and easy to use for home and small business users not familiar with accounting principles".

It looks promising, and is currently under active development.

sdb


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I'm looking to use a personal finance software on Mac OSX to replace my old Quicken 2002.
I have tried Buddi (but didn't like its interface) and SpendThrift 3.0 (liked its interface but some features didn't work - very strange)
Then I tried iCompta 1.4. It's fine so far. It doesn't support investment option.


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noksagt said:Gnucash for MS Windows has been released.

I was thinking about to try before spending time to learn how to install it in Mac OSX (I also have a PC). But the installation file for Windows version is very big (about 49MB)!


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wildeny2 said:SpendThrift 3.0 .... iCompta 1.4.Neither of these appear to be open source.noksagt said:Gnucash for MS Windows has been released.

I was thinking about to try before spending time to learn how to install it in Mac OSX (I also have a PC). But the installation file for Windows version is very big (about 49MB)!
Quicken's installation file is AT LEAST this big too (and can be over ten times bigger, as it fills a CD).


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Does anyone know if these come with the ability to sync with online accounts like Quicken? I know about the security risks and all that jazz, but there's pretty much no way I'll use one of these pieces of software if I need to download from 10-20 websites each time I want to do my accounting.

Nor am I willing to do that and invest the time to setup mint/yodlee/whatever as the one-view. One-stop shop or nothing


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Leland said:Does anyone know if these come with the ability to sync with online accounts like Quicken? I know about the security risks and all that jazz, but there's pretty much no way I'll use one of these pieces of software if I need to download from 10-20 websites each time I want to do my accounting.

Nor am I willing to do that and invest the time to setup mint/yodlee/whatever as the one-view. One-stop shop or nothing

I'm in the same boat. I want to download my billpay transACTIONS AND my CC purchases. OFX Connect is the protocol that downloads data in the USA.
Gnucash promises to do that, but unfortunately, OFX Connect in Gnucash is not very robust. It fails with Fidelity.
The developers of Gnucash are in Europe, so they have no first-hand exposure to American online data standards.

Quicken works fine.

I really want to use Gnucash, but it simply doesn't work well enough with American financial institutions.


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Anyone familar with HomeBank (a former Amiga software)?

It looks promising... It claims to import OFX/QFX but no download and no windows version. (yet?)

sdb


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