nice...i got updated today too...at this pace...we are looking at +.2% per month
we should be at 5% around this time next year
e1superman
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 12:03a
My rate is at 2.8%... Just logged in and checked. Although at this point I already opened an emmigrant account at 3.25% and as soon as they send me the letter in the mail I will get that account running and xfer all my money (less $1).
boden11
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 12:04a
word...ing is starting to feel the pressure of new competitors! this 20bp hike has been one of the biggest ones in a while (before being like 5-15bps), however it does came less than 18 hrs from the fed report...
niktobos said: nice...at this pace...we are looking at +.2% per month
we should be at 5% around this time next year
yeah buying a CD seems silly now.
boden11
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 12:09a
I know I'm a finance freak (have a degree in it for hecks sake) but right now I'm like equally excited about the rate increase as being the first to Fatwallet with it!
BulgingWallet
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 1:02a
e1superman said: My rate is at 2.8%... Just logged in and checked. Although at this point I already opened an emmigrant account at 3.25% and as soon as they send me the letter in the mail I will get that account running and xfer all my money (less $1).
I think virtualbank also just raised their rate. The main page doesn't show it yet but the rate on my account page shows 2.76% which is about 2.8% APY. It's all pretty much too little too late though as it looks like the easy money is flowing to emigrant.
No surprise with the Fed expected to raise the rate .25 later today....I wonder if Emigrant will react and bump their rate to 3.5%?
But unless ING can get their rate closer to Emigrant, why go back? The withdrawal/deposit transfer process will take 3-4 days, you'll switch to a lower rate, and lose some interest during the float time.
ShowMeTheMoney41
Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 6:48a
I will always go with the highest FDIC savings account. Whether it's ED, ING or Joe's National Trust. ING has a lot of ground to make up. The competition is great for customers. I'll play these internet banks like my ex-wife. Next slide.
jack4nt
New Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 7:39a
Currently my Savings are with ING, Is there any referral services for ED which gives me some bucks like ($25) ING offered by mail a while ago.
mir322
Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 7:44a
jack4nt said: Currently my Savings are with ING, Is there any referral services for ED which gives me some bucks like ($25) ING offered by mail a while ago.
Nope! I don't think they'll need it unless there's competition of others - enough people will switch over from ING and VB.
the fed is raising interest rates this week another .25%. ING is still behind a bit i think.
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GeorgeCostanza
Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 8:06a
**** LET THE GAMES BEGIN ! ****
GeorgeCostanza
Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 8:09a
Perhaps ING started to notice $$$ outflow...
Darcy
Broke Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 8:36a
a co-worker tells me that Vanguard's money market account pays 4+%, with a $250 minimum. looks like it has check writing ability too. aside from the FDIC insurance of savings, can anybody help me in figuring out the pros and cons of money market vs savings? thanks.
Bull, Vanguards MM is 2.42% - I just looked it up. Their low rate was the reason I moved to ING in the first place.
rogerbeagle
Ancient Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 8:54a
Darcy said: a co-worker tells me that Vanguard's money market account pays 4+%, with a $250 minimum. looks like it has check writing ability too. aside from the FDIC insurance of savings, can anybody help me in figuring out the pros and cons of money market vs savings? thanks.\\
more info please!
Darcy
Broke Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 9:00a
sorry, i just found out that the account requires a $3000 minimum. guess that's why they pay more. check more out at Vanguard
rogerbeagle said: Darcy said: a co-worker tells me that Vanguard's money market account pays 4+%, with a $250 minimum. looks like it has check writing ability too. aside from the FDIC insurance of savings, can anybody help me in figuring out the pros and cons of money market vs savings? thanks.\\
I just recently opened a CD at ing - guess I know now why the customer service guy was pushing so hard
I wonder if I should pull it now - since I understand the only penalty is half of the interest (which at this point is next to 0). Heck - the ED savings is only a tad below my 1 year CD interest - and I bet it goes past within the year!
I was just about to move some moeny into the HSBC account (2.7%, last I heard). Since I already have an account with HSBC, this seemed to be the best move. Well, now ING steps up... who is next?
Mister2
Ancient Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 10:56a
Strosg 97 sez: Why would you by a CD when rates are on their way up
Indeed. However, (taking ED out of the picture) how long will it take for ING's savings rate to equal its CD rate? I bet ING savings is not even 3.25 by the end of the year. In the meantime I would be making the difference.
With ED in the pitcure however, the CD is looking pretty lame I admit.
Unforgiven
Thrifty Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 10:58a
thanx for the heads up. as always, this forum is cutting edge on info regarding rates. thank you OP!
vdadlani219 said: No surprise with the Fed expected to raise the rate .25 later today....I wonder if Emigrant will react and bump their rate to 3.5%?
I'm not thinking that will happen any time soon. My take on it is that their 25 basis point raise from 3.00 to 3.25 was in anticipation of the Fed's move.
on $10k interest would be ED $325 and ING $280 (just straight not conpounded) that is not enough of a difference for me to move my money away from ING.
byamagata
Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 2:16p
FWbroke said: on $10k interest would be ED $325 and ING $280 (just straight not conpounded) that is not enough of a difference for me to move my money away from ING.
Actually thats exactly how much you would make in interest since APY includes the monthly compound.
FWbroke said: on $10k interest would be ED $325 and ING $280 (just straight not conpounded) that is not enough of a difference for me to move my money away from ING.
you need think long term.. ED will likely to beat ING for years to come.. it only takes a few clicks to move the money.. plus free money is free money
FWbroke said: on $10k interest would be ED $325 and ING $280 (just straight not conpounded) that is not enough of a difference for me to move my money away from ING.
why not? is this for loyalty reasons or do you feel safer with ING? as far as i'm concerned, the minimal effort it takes on my part to move my money from ED to ING is well worth $45.
if someone were to offer you $5 on the street and all you had to do is bend over and pick it up, would you? it's only $5...
Kismet4Max
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 2:56p
Pygmy said: FWbroke said: if someone were to offer you $5 on the street and all you had to do is bend over and pick it up, would you? it's only $5...
Bending over for $5? No thanks...I heard the going rate is 10x that much.
Auream
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Mar. 22, 2005 @ 3:01p
pjhartman said: I'm not thinking that will happen any time soon. My take on it is that their 25 basis point raise from 3.00 to 3.25 was in anticipation of the Fed's move.
Exactly, they basically did it to preempt other banks and stay on top of the yield rankings. There's no need to raise another quarter point when they already did so recently. Not that I wouldn't want one, but it ain't gonna happen.
I pick up pennies when I see them on the ground. I recently cashed in $350 worth of pennies (Yes, only pennies!) at my Credit Union here at work (it took several trips, and was very heavy).
And the $45 difference could mean a "free" month of cell phone use. ($325 - $280)
Worth it to me. It takes about 15 seconds to transfer from on to the other.
Mister2 said: Strosg 97 sez: Why would you by a CD when rates are on their way up
Indeed. However, (taking ED out of the picture) how long will it take for ING's savings rate to equal its CD rate? I bet ING savings is not even 3.25 by the end of the year. In the meantime I would be making the difference.
With ED in the pitcure however, the CD is looking pretty lame I admit.
Their CD rates are 3.4 and 3.9 for 1- and 2-year CDs right now... (and I got some money locked up last year at 2.75 and 3.25... I may just break the CDs.............................)
boden11
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 23, 2005 @ 12:33a
That's the best part of ING is that since the money compounds annually and they give you day by day cumulative interest amounts, it's just so easy to figure out if it's worth breaking the CD. And again, the reason why it's always best to just ladder and forget about it. I'm not really concerned if ING is lagging by even 50bps to another bank. If I was I'd just throw it into the stock market and blend it into my portfolio. Cash will almost always generate poor returns at the banks (and when it doesn't it's because inflation is on a tear, and so you really aren't making much in real terms).
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matt1
Senior Member
posted: Apr. 27, 2005 @ 5:49p
That survey looks totally bogus - that is not an ING Direct sponsored survey. ING Direct would not use an outside survey website that anyone can join and use for free to make business decisions or do marketing research.
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