Student Loan Consolidation with UHEAA

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I am in the process of consolodating my student loans with UHEAA, and have found Fatwallet to be very helpful. It seems to me that a lot of us FWers have chosen UHEAA, so I wanted to start a thread on how it has gone.

So far my consolodation has been a breeze. When I call the toll free number, I never hold for longer than a minute or two, and they have been very nice. The one thing I am concerned about is when I ask if they sell loans. I have asked this question several times to several different CSRs and their answer has been very similar. They always say, that they don't anticipate selling your loan.

My question to those of you who have consolodated with UHEAA... how long have you been paying on your consolodated loan? And have you had any problems with UHEAA.

I'm suspicious because of the 1.25% auto debit incentive they have. Why are they 5x higher than everyone else???

Thanks!

Edit: I hate typos



My consolidation was finalized this past month, so my first pymt is coming up later this month. As you said, everything was a breeze. After sending in the appl., everything was all said and done in about 5 weeks.

I heard about UHEAA before FW through a newsletter that my university's financial club provided to subscribers, the advisor said that it's about the best student loan consolidation program avaliable. I don't know why 1.25% off, but believe me I'm not complaining. I think it's just a small firm and that's the best way to attract. It has seemed to work. Also I believe that previously they only consolidated in UTAH.


Also remember that after 48 PAYMENTS, it gets reduced by another 1%. Thus, you can reduce it earlier if you pay twice in one month for 2 years so that it will take only 2 years to reduce the interest rate instead of 4 years. However, the time value of money may be more valuable to you instead of making a doule payment


Is it possible to complete UHEAA's loan consolidation program application online? Link?


I haven't really found out much information regarding Utah Higher Education. I did see that they advertised the terms you mentioned but that's about all I know. I know nothing about their customer service and/or if they sell these loans at some point. The reason that I mention this is that you are committing to a 30 year relationship with these folks so you want to be sure that you know enough about them to work with them.

One thing I wanted to clarify is that THE has the .75% bonus that is awarded each month and that is not an interest rate deduction but an actual credit to your account so your payments are immediately reduced. One thing to also remember is THE will honor that bonus as long as you are not more than 60 days delinquent - even if you were and then got back on track, you would just miss the bonus for that month and then it would pick up again. Other lenders, including Utah, would only qualify after 48 payments have been paid and if you are late on one, you lose the benefit forever and you can't get it back. Studies show that only 7 - 12% would ever quailify for a benefit like that and 4 yrs is a long time to go w/out being late one time i.e. vacations, family emergencies, etc. can happen so don't count on that - it's a bonus if it happens. Another point to remember is that if you have only lender, you MUST consolidate with that lender so if you have only borrowed your STafford loans with THE, you'll only have the option of consolidating with them due to the "single lender rule".


nmehta211, UHEAA *does* give a grace period. Any payment within 15 days after the due date is considered on-time, and in addition they allow three payments that are paid within 30 days to count as on-time.

The .75% annualized interest rate credit that is paid out monthly by THE is in no way comparable to the UHEAA benefits. .75% verses 1.25% immediately for UHEAA with electronic payments. Then, 48 months later UHEAA will have another 1% advantage over THE.

UHEAA's customer service has been excellent for me and a lot of other people. They respond quickly, and give straightforward answers to every question. To this day they have told everyone who has called that they DO NOT EXPECT TO SELL THE LOANS. How much more plain can they be?


I made the mistake of consolidating with AES Graduate Services. BIG mistake! Not only are their reps unknowledgeable, but they have a serious attitude problem. Once I receive another loan this Fall I'm consolidating them all together during the 180 day grace period. UHEAA sounds really good, another good company *I think* is Total Higher Education, website here. email Federal Loan Consolidation: Toll-Free 1-866-562-6672
Has anyone had any luck with this company or Southwest Student Services Corporation?


Thanks for all the good info. My loan is close to being reconsolodated, but Salle Mae has delayed getting paperwork back to UHEAA

I'll post again once I start making payments to UHEAA.

Another question to those with UHEAA loans...

1. Long long have you had your loan with them?

2. Has anyone had their UHEAA loan sold to another lender?


never done it before.


I consolidated with UHEAA last year. The loan is serviced by Nelnet and you can setup online payments. I have been very pleased with them. I have a student loan repayment bonus from the National Guard and they make once a year payments on the loan. They made one last August and I don't have a payment until May 2006. This August though I'm expecting another 1700ish loan payment from the Guard. That should kick me out to late 07 to early 08 to make a loan. I haven't figured it out, but I won't have to make a loan payment for a good couple of years which is OK with me due to the 1.62% interest rate. I've got more expensive loans to payoff like my mortgage.


fatbelly, I am in the process of consolidating with UHEAA. Before I turned in my application I asked them whether they will sell their loans. I posted their answer to this question in the student loan consolidatio thread...but essentially they said that they will not sell anyone's loans now and do not plan to because they service their own loans now, as opposed to before when they were just a guarantee service. Don't be too alarmed by emre100's post that his loan is now serviced through Nelnet. He probably consolidated with UHEAA when they were just a guarantee agency. either way, it sounds like Emre1000 still retained his borrower incentives despite his loans being serviced by Nelnet. I'll let you guys know how my UHEAA consolidation goes. Nobody in the original student loan consolidation thread have reported their UHEAA consolidation loan being sold yet. So most likely, your loan is safe with UHEAA. - Dave


Thanks for the input. One of the loans I consolodated is currently serviced by Nelnet, so I am very comfortable with them. Very easy to pay online.

The reason I brought this up, is because the incentives sound too good to be true. 1.25% is so much more than everyone else.

My loan should be processed by the end of this month, so I will post again once my loan is completely with them.

So far, so good. I have been impressed with UHEAA. Thanks for the input.

somdave2005 said: fatbelly, I am in the process of consolidating with UHEAA. Before I turned in my application I asked them whether they will sell their loans. I posted their answer to this question in the student loan consolidatio thread...but essentially they said that they will not sell anyone's loans now and do not plan to because they service their own loans now, as opposed to before when they were just a guarantee service. Don't be too alarmed by emre100's post that his loan is now serviced through Nelnet. He probably consolidated with UHEAA when they were just a guarantee agency. either way, it sounds like Emre1000 still retained his borrower incentives despite his loans being serviced by Nelnet. I'll let you guys know how my UHEAA consolidation goes. Nobody in the original student loan consolidation thread have reported their UHEAA consolidation loan being sold yet. So most likely, your loan is safe with UHEAA. - Dave


My loan is still with UHEAA, Nelnet is just managing it, or at least that is my understanding.


SeriusBlack said: I made the mistake of consolidating with AES Graduate Services. BIG mistake! Not only are their reps unknowledgeable, but they have a serious attitude problem. Once I receive another loan this Fall I'm consolidating them all together during the 180 day grace period. UHEAA sounds really good, another good company *I think* is Total Higher Education, website here. email Federal Loan Consolidation: Toll-Free 1-866-562-6672
Has anyone had any luck with this company or Southwest Student Services Corporation?

My loans were originally with AES and Fulton, which I thought were two separate institutions. I filed my application for a consolidation loan with UHEAA, and was denied because they claimed that all my loans were with one lender, making me ineligible. So, I ended up consolidating with AES since I didn't really have a choice. They've been ok customer service-wise, but the perks aren't as nice as with UHEAA.


i just called uhhea right now and asked them if the borrower benefits were in writing. their response was less than optimal: "it isn't on the application but you can print our the brochure as proof." does anyone else find this troubling? do none of the other lenders have the terms of the borrow benefits in writing?


I'm not sure if putting borrower incentives is a common thing in consolidation loan promissory notes. I do not remember any mention of ANY borrower incentives on any of the other consolidation promissory notes that I've seen. Your brochure clearly states the borrower incentives however. I'm no lawyer, but I think that should be good enough since it's in writing. - Dave


somdave2005 said: I'm not sure if putting borrower incentives is a common thing in consolidation loan promissory notes. I do not remember any mention of ANY borrower incentives on any of the other consolidation promissory notes that I've seen. Your brochure clearly states the borrower incentives however. I'm no lawyer, but I think that should be good enough since it's in writing. - Dave

ironically, i am a graduating law student. more than anything, i wanted to see if there were any special exceptions or if not putting borrower benefits on the promissory notes was common. the benefits that uheaa are so great that it's almost hard to believe.


I apparently have only one lender, ALL student loan corp. How can it be fair for me to have to be bound by their terms, when someone like UHEAA offers such ridiculous incentives? Is there any way around this one lender rule? Moreover, I still can't believe teh UHEAA incentives, is there any proof to this?


one more thing...take a look at this page: Lender List
does this mean that your lenders have to be on this list for you to receive the borrower incentives that everyone is going crazy over? for example, if my lenders are access group and citibank, it seems i would not qualify...


OK. I went thru both posts regarding the Consoldation. Still kinda confused.
I think most agree that UHEAA has the best deal here (especially for 30 years repayment)
I have my Stafford (both sub. and unsub.) with citibank... (I know the finical department screw me there)
I have 1 federal Perkins loan thru no one according to NSLDS.
Is it possible for me to rip UHEAA's benfits?
I know the issue may be "one lender rule", however it seems like there is a way aournd it with perkins. (2-step?)
My concerns here are
1st, will I be able to use UHEAA?
2nd, if so, will I have time to do it before the Jul/1/05 deadline?
3rd, if I consoldate, should I leave a small (8500) loan out so I can re-consol again later? Some one seems to mention it.
ohh.. I got 120.000+ in loan.


Any 1 has any idea please help.
P.S. I will call UHEEA too. Just want to see if any 1 has good idea here, since the rep. may not give me the full scope.
P.S.2. I have a crappy 25 out of 150 Dell coupon (i think that is what it is) any 1 that can help me out is welcome to it. 1st come 1st serve.
Thanks.


scrock said: OK. I went thru both posts regarding the Consoldation. Still kinda confused.
I think most agree that UHEAA has the best deal here (especially for 30 years repayment)
I have my Stafford (both sub. and unsub.) with citibank... (I know the finical department screw me there)
I have 1 federal Perkins loan thru no one according to NSLDS.
Is it possible for me to rip UHEAA's benfits?
I know the issue may be "one lender rule", however it seems like there is a way aournd it with perkins. (2-step?)
My concerns here are
1st, will I be able to use UHEAA?
2nd, if so, will I have time to do it before the Jul/1/05 deadline?
3rd, if I consoldate, should I leave a small (8500) loan out so I can re-consol again later? Some one seems to mention it.
ohh.. I got 120.000+ in loan.
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1. UHEAA told one of my friends that they could count the Perkins loan lender and break the one lender requirement. Another friend didn't have a perkins loan but was able to beg and convince BofA to release their right of first refusal.
2. you can only consolidate after you graduate. you may be able to start the process now, but UHEAA won't accept the application until after you graduate. They told me that they go by the date of submission, not completion, so if you submit by 7/1, you should be able to get it.
3. I don't know. Call UHEAA, they are pretty knowledgable.


I just did my research on "Single Lender Rule" and it was shocked. Anyone else got shafted with Sallie Mae on this? It looks like all my students loans are with SM so trying to consolidate using UHEAA would be interesting. Just want to see if anyone else did it before w/ SM & UHEAA

Anyway, did my part to fight this ridiculous loop hole. Wrote to
Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee (Sen. Judd Gregg, Chairman) at mailbox@gregg.senate.gov or via this link.
House Committee on Education and the Workforce (Representative John Boehner, Chairman) at john.boehner@mail.house.gov or via this link.
and NC Senator Richard Burr who is also sitting on the senate committee... Ppl that got shafted should start writing their email


cvc2k said: I just did my research on "Single Lender Rule" and it was shocked. Anyone else got shafted with Sallie Mae on this? It looks like all my students loans are with SM so trying to consolidate using UHEAA would be interesting. Just want to see if anyone else did it before w/ SM & UHEAA

Anyway, did my part to fight this ridiculous loop hole. Wrote to
Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee (Sen. Judd Gregg, Chairman) at mailbox@gregg.senate.gov or via this link.
House Committee on Education and the Workforce (Representative John Boehner, Chairman) at john.boehner@mail.house.gov or via this link.
and NC Senator Richard Burr who is also sitting on the senate committee... Ppl that got shafted should start writing their email


what is ridiculous is the stupid financial aid offices who don't counsel their students well during the loan application process. they always told me to just pick any lender, never once mentioning the single lender rule.


Peekay, Financial Aid offices probably did not know about the one lender rule themselves...


somdave2005 said: Peekay, Financial Aid offices probably did not know about the one lender rule themselves...

well my financial office did and they didn't mention anything.


I saw this a long time ago on one of the threads, but how come no one talks about the instant 5% principal discount from PHEAA/Keybank/AES consolidation? Is it a bad deal?

http://www.keybank.com/html/H-1.39.html
http://www.keybank.com/html/H-1.39.a.html


Hmm.. i did this consolidation thing last year and ended up going with IDAPP. THe Indiana State financial aid board that i heard about through this forum. Similar deal but not quite as good, .25 % reduction for electronic payements and then another 1% after 48 payments. Considering the change in rates, it's about the same.

It would seem these obscure state programs are the way to go. Several articles on FW about IDAPP, Utah here, and i think there is one floating around about nebraska as well.

To those about to graduate pay EXTREME attention to the one-lender rule discussed above. If you have all of your loans with one lender, go to your financial aid office and see if you are eligible for any extra stafford money, no matter how small, and take it through a second lender. Finincial aid offices purposely don't tell you this because multiple lenders makes it harder for them. But you are totalled owned if your lender knows they are the only one you can consolidate with.

I ended up spending weeks researching this in the 6 month grace after i graduated. (be sure you consolidate in your grace period to save 0.50% before you go into the higher repayment rate). In the end had 2.75 % on my consolidated loan -.25 EFT and 1 % after 48 for 1.5 % long term. I'm sure some FW'ers have done better but i was ecstatic. Good luck to you guys. RESEARCH the state programs!


Hi,
I see a lot of you consolidate your NellieMae/SallieMae loans with UHEAA!!
Was that a FEDERAL or PRIVATE LOAN that you had with NM/SM ??

Because I was told by UHEAA reps that they DO NOT consolidate private loans!!

I'm graduating next month and I have 4K Perkin, 19K DL, and 8K NallieMae Private Loan!!
Nelnet got me estimated internet rate for the NM private loan for about 5~8% depending on my co-signer's credit score (since i don't have a job)

Please, anyone, let me know if you've consolidated your private laon successfully with UHEAA!!


thanks


So what is the current consolidated rate for staffords now anyway?


it is still 3.37% i think, pre-consolidation.

but looks like it could go up at least 2% on July 1


darqice said: it is still 3.37% i think, pre-consolidation.

but looks like it could go up at least 2% on July 1


Dang...that would be my luck. I graduate in August.

I currently have my Stafford through CFNC (College Foundation of North Carolina). They have a pretty sweet consolidation deal.
1/2% decrease every 12 months (up to 2% decrease after 48)
1/4% decrease for electronic payment

If I can lock in 3.25%, that means I will eventually end up with a 1% tax deductible loan.

What's the deal with other consolidators? Do you have to be residents of certain states to consolidate? (Like Utah for UHEAA?)


dandan14 said: What's the deal with other consolidators? Do you have to be residents of certain states to consolidate? (Like Utah for UHEAA?)

Disregard my question....I just read the stuff about the single lender rule. Still, CFNC is giving me a pretty sweet deal....assuming rates stay low for a few more months until I can lock.


Do you have a link to THE? I would like more info on that deal. I have some federal loans to consolidate very quickly.


Morris, go to the original student loan consolidation thread. I remember seeing somebody talking about it...or better yet, somebody on here has the direct link and would help you out.


morris, i found it for you...

Northstar THE


DHL, If i had to choose between 5% principle reduction vs 2.25% interest reduction at UHEAA, I would pick the interest reduction hands down. Just put the numbers in one of those consolidation calculators and see for yourself.

Dave


somdave2005 said: DHL, If i had to choose between 5% principle reduction vs 2.25% interest reduction at UHEAA, I would pick the interest reduction hands down. Just put the numbers in one of those consolidation calculators and see for yourself.

Dave


Thanks! It turns out via the calculator at finaid.org that either one is a good choice for me because the totals are as follows (actually the 5% reduction is a better choice for me (may not apply to others with longer terms) because I just threw the full 2.25% interest rate reduction from day 1 on the calculator instead of 1.25% then 2.25% after 48 months).

$18,500 principal
5 year term
consolidated at 3.75%
----------------------------------------
5% principal reduction:
$17,575.00 principal
auto pay .25% reduction = 3.50% interest rate
over term = $1,608.19 interest + $17,575.00 = $19,183.19

2.25% interest reduction:
$18,500 principal
1.50% interest rate
over term = $713.98 interest + $18,500.00 = $19,213.98


dhl, i'm glad you used the loan calculator...but why is your interest rate so high at 3.75%???? Shouldn't it be about 2.87 or something like that? Did you consolidate your fixed rate loans as well?

Dave


Rates are high because they are from the Mid to late 1990's. So the rates were higher for the ones from 7/1995 - 6/1998 then the ones from 7/1998 - 1999. I might be off by a year or two in regards to those periods, but that is the gist of it. They were all variable rate stafford sub/unsub loans. It is detailed on this table: http://www.finaid.org/loans/scripts/interest.cgi


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Thanks I called and the girl agreed she thinks I have made 40 payments as well.

Unfortunately, the guy in accounting is out on vacation but they promised to call next week.

Glad I have auto debit payments set up or I'd be paranoid I missed a payment! Will be a nice jump to go from 34 to 40 payments because of their error somewhere along the way.




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