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ezwinner701
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 15, 2005 @ 7:27p
so you used that BT check, and you didn't have to pay any fees?
workingonit said:
The Chase offer I referred to (0% APR on BTs and purchases for up to 15 months) is Offer Code RU; call (800) 651-CHASE to apply (by July 31). No annual fee, but the BT fee is 3% ($5.00 minimum, $75.00 maximum per transaction, "unless otherwise disclosed to you in writing"). [Edit: That could conceivably mean the CSR has power to waive the BT fee?]
--So to avoid several different BT fees, you'd definitely want to get one single large BT check made out to yourself, and pay off your other cards from that. Note that you can ONLY request a BT check during that first phone call, while you're applying for the card; after you hang up, you'll be stuck doing individual BTs from your other cards if you haven't taken care of them at the start.
The CSR said I should hear within 30 days. She also said Chase might decide to issue me a card with Standard Pricing instead of the one described; such a card would NOT have BT capability (nor would it have 0% on anything -- not terribly useful).
I don't know anything about their online application; can't help you there. Applying by phone was very easy; I'd recommend it since you want to make sure you get the chance to request a BT check.
I must admit I was thrown off balance by being asked to name an amount for the BT check when I didn't even know what CL I would have, but I just went ahead and named a figure; the CSR said that if I do get Elite Pricing or Premium Pricing, they'll gladly issue me a BT check for up to $100 less than my credit limit.
I also saw another ad in Sunday's paper that you might be interested in:
AT&T Universal Card is offering 0% APR on BTs and purchases until July 1, 2006; apply at www.online.universalcard.com or call (800) 541-2579. Apply by August 15. No annual fee, and no BT fee "for balances you transfer in response to this offer." The ad does not give any promotion code.
--So again, you'd definitely want to ask them to issue you a BT check while you're on the phone applying for the card, in order to avoid the BT fee which otherwise would be 3% ($5.00 minimum, $75.00 maximum per transaction). |
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UncleSam
- Addicted Member
posted: Jun. 23, 2005 @ 12:27a
I received a 0% balance transfer offer for 15 months with no BT fees from Chase and i applied for it and at the same time requested that $15K be transferred to my bank checking account. They sent me a card with a credit limit of $8800 and also transferred $8300 to my bank account. I then got my credit limit increased to 20K by transferring some credit line from another Chase card. I then asked for an additional balance transfer of $6700 and the CSR mentioned that now she is unable to transfer to a checking account but can still do it to another card. I was wondering if I could transfer the balance to a dormant card with $0 balance and then this CC company to issue a check for the credited amount. Will this strategy work or am i missing something. |
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workingonit
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2005 @ 12:17a
ezwinner701 said:so you used that BT check, and you didn't have to pay any fees? I didn't say that. I didn't realize until after I'd requested it that their wording probably meant the CSR had some leeway -- so I didn't ask that the fee be waived. Smarter next time, I hope. But the $75.00 fee isn't all that bad (I console myself), considering the interest I'll be getting over the next 15 months (3.5% APY at Presidential). |
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Auream
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 24, 2005 @ 7:45a
UncleSam said:I was wondering if I could transfer the balance to a dormant card with $0 balance and then this CC company to issue a check for the credited amount. Will this strategy work or am i missing something.
Did you read the thread? Doing a BT to a card with a 0 balance is one of the standard ways to get cash from a BT if they won't just send a check. Easiest to do this with is a Citibank card, which have a handy online "credit balance refund request" option. |
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acfu
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2005 @ 8:57a
jdopple said:Good thread and comments by Dave Hanson. I'm not sure I agree about using only 50% of a bt line however, as that is a very costly way 'preserve' a very high credit score. Unless you have access to unlimited bt's (and most don't), you are leaving 50% of whatever profit you can make on the table. I maxed out 5 cards, 2 were lifetime bt's, and am using 50% of my TOTAL credit line, but 95% on the 5 cards. All the money is in bank CD's and I can pay off the line at any time.
It knocked my score back some , but its still over 700 ,and you can't spend the credit score. As I pay off the cards, I'm sure it will creep back up.
Good post, I concur. |
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acfu
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2005 @ 10:32a
workingonit said:shahabhinav said:Workingonit, do you have more details on this card - which card it is, what is the offer/promotion code in the ad.
You applied on phone - how long then is the processing time? I was thinking of applying online, but not sure then how/when do I request for BT check "in the application process"? Any experiences?
Thanks
I must admit I was thrown off balance by being asked to name an amount for the BT check when I didn't even know what CL I would have, but I just went ahead and named a figure; the CSR said that if I do get Elite Pricing or Premium Pricing, they'll gladly issue me a BT check for up to $100 less than my credit limit.
Discover just did this to me, seems to be a growing trend. |
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nuclearfusion
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2005 @ 11:02a
Auream said:UncleSam said:I was wondering if I could transfer the balance to a dormant card with $0 balance and then this CC company to issue a check for the credited amount. Will this strategy work or am i missing something.
Did you read the thread? Doing a BT to a card with a 0 balance is one of the standard ways to get cash from a BT if they won't just send a check. Easiest to do this with is a Citibank card, which have a handy online "credit balance refund request" option.
Can anyone confirm this works with Citibank? I just did a BT from my Sony/Chase card to my MBNA card and the MBNA credit department called and threatened to cancel my card as they don't normally accept overpayments. They sent the funds back to Chase and I did get my $50 tranfer fee back automatically from Chase. Citibank doesn't accept overpayments on their online site so I was wondering if they will also reject the BT? |
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DFWDAL
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2005 @ 12:06p
nuclearfusion said:Can anyone confirm this works with Citibank? I just did a BT from my Sony/Chase card to my MBNA card and the MBNA credit department called and threatened to cancel my card as they don't normally accept overpayments. They sent the funds back to Chase and I did get my $50 tranfer fee back automatically from Chase. Citibank doesn't accept overpayments on their online site so I was wondering if they will also reject the BT? In my experience, overpayments work fine with Citibank. But I haven't tried it with very large amounts (always less than 10K). How much was your overpayment to MBNA? |
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acfu
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2005 @ 1:51p
DFWDAL said:nuclearfusion said:Can anyone confirm this works with Citibank? I just did a BT from my Sony/Chase card to my MBNA card and the MBNA credit department called and threatened to cancel my card as they don't normally accept overpayments. They sent the funds back to Chase and I did get my $50 tranfer fee back automatically from Chase. Citibank doesn't accept overpayments on their online site so I was wondering if they will also reject the BT? In my experience, overpayments work fine with Citibank. But I haven't tried it with very large amounts (always less than 10K). How much was your overpayment to MBNA?
Thought 10% over was the limit...or maybe I made that up. |
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nuclearfusion
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2005 @ 5:13p
acfu said:DFWDAL said:nuclearfusion said:Can anyone confirm this works with Citibank? I just did a BT from my Sony/Chase card to my MBNA card and the MBNA credit department called and threatened to cancel my card as they don't normally accept overpayments. They sent the funds back to Chase and I did get my $50 tranfer fee back automatically from Chase. Citibank doesn't accept overpayments on their online site so I was wondering if they will also reject the BT? In my experience, overpayments work fine with Citibank. But I haven't tried it with very large amounts (always less than 10K). How much was your overpayment to MBNA?
Thought 10% over was the limit...or maybe I made that up.
I tried a BT of 16K. |
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acfu
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2005 @ 7:53p
nuclearfusion said:acfu said:DFWDAL said:nuclearfusion said:Can anyone confirm this works with Citibank? I just did a BT from my Sony/Chase card to my MBNA card and the MBNA credit department called and threatened to cancel my card as they don't normally accept overpayments. They sent the funds back to Chase and I did get my $50 tranfer fee back automatically from Chase. Citibank doesn't accept overpayments on their online site so I was wondering if they will also reject the BT? In my experience, overpayments work fine with Citibank. But I haven't tried it with very large amounts (always less than 10K). How much was your overpayment to MBNA?
Thought 10% over was the limit...or maybe I made that up.
I tried a BT of 16K.
On a CL of? |
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nuclearfusion
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2005 @ 9:22p
acfu said:nuclearfusion said:acfu said:DFWDAL said:nuclearfusion said:Can anyone confirm this works with Citibank? I just did a BT from my Sony/Chase card to my MBNA card and the MBNA credit department called and threatened to cancel my card as they don't normally accept overpayments. They sent the funds back to Chase and I did get my $50 tranfer fee back automatically from Chase. Citibank doesn't accept overpayments on their online site so I was wondering if they will also reject the BT? In my experience, overpayments work fine with Citibank. But I haven't tried it with very large amounts (always less than 10K). How much was your overpayment to MBNA?
Thought 10% over was the limit...or maybe I made that up.
I tried a BT of 16K.
On a CL of?
20K |
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Auream
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 24, 2005 @ 11:47p
My overpayment to Citibank was only about $5K, worked no problem (CL of $10K). I don't think you have anything to worry about with Citibank. MBNA on the other hand, as you have discovered, is extremely anal about overpayments. Do a search, there's at least one thread regarding MBNA's treatment of overpayments. |
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workingonit
- Senior Member
posted: Jun. 27, 2005 @ 3:24a
Not sure if this belongs here, but hesitate to start another thread...
Some of the no-fee 0% BT cards allow you to make additional BTs on the same terms at any time during the 0% period.
Thus, each time you reduce your balance on such a card by making a minimum payment, you can use that "wiggle room" to make another BT, which can cover the minimum payment on another card -- allowing that much of "your" money to continue collecting interest. |
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EugeneV
- Ancient Member
posted: Jun. 30, 2005 @ 7:10p
workingonit said:Not sure if this belongs here, but hesitate to start another thread...
Some of the no-fee 0% BT cards allow you to make additional BTs on the same terms at any time during the 0% period.
Thus, each time you reduce your balance on such a card by making a minimum payment, you can use that "wiggle room" to make another BT, which can cover the minimum payment on another card -- allowing that much of "your" money to continue collecting interest.
Yeah, and some even reward you for each BT. Citi Dividend or AT&T Universal will give you $5 for every BT over $1500. $5 is probably subtracted from your yearly $300 reward cap though. |
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golf247
- Addicted Member
posted: Jul. 7, 2005 @ 11:41p
I know the discussion on using your spouse's credit lines (with their knowledge and approval) has been discussed, but don't know if it's been mentioned that you shouldn't ask for an added user card for these types of things as they show up on the added user's CR also. |
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manuel
- Greedy Member
posted: Jul. 8, 2005 @ 2:00a
workingonit said:Not sure if this belongs here, but hesitate to start another thread...
Some of the no-fee 0% BT cards allow you to make additional BTs on the same terms at any time during the 0% period.
Thus, each time you reduce your balance on such a card by making a minimum payment, you can use that "wiggle room" to make another BT, which can cover the minimum payment on another card -- allowing that much of "your" money to continue collecting interest.
Lately I've had a couple of chase cards that have been very nice about this.
Agree with golf247's note about authorized users on cards - however like almost all generalizations it depends. Depending on one's spouse's credit history a old & large line might do more good than harm - even if it's has a large outstanding balance.
I have gotten smarter about new lines though. |
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didYOUsearch
- Cranky Member
posted: Jul. 8, 2005 @ 4:17a
Just read trhough this thread - excellent post OP.
Random thoughts related to what I just saw:
Taking out CC money and putting in savings or bonds or anything can indeed impact Financial Aid eligibility. Plus, the amount of money you can earn from these strategies while a student generally isnt much. I would hold off from the BT games while still needing to get student aid and loans.
i prefer completely separate lines, as opposed to joint/authorized user lines. They are good for establishing credit, but can hurt the other party when you play the BT game. Also, 2 people with separate cards = 2 separate CLs.
I have found my FAKO also ranges from 50-80 points lower than true FICO when carrying large BTs
I never started to amass CCs with any strategy in mind, but having many separate lines from an issuer has worked out well, and I receive different promos from each card, even from the same issuer. If I get one better promo, I reallocate CL to the card with the best promo and do a big BT.
I have carried six figures of promo BT money, and combined with AppoRama, it knocked my true FICO down by ~100 points. This is at 90%+ utilization. |
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tjwoody
- Addicted Member
posted: Jul. 8, 2005 @ 6:56a
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FinanceFledgling
- Member
posted: Jul. 8, 2005 @ 9:29a
I have considered playing the BT game, but would have difficulty making the minimum payments on a sum large enough to warrant bothering.
I'd like to do this, but don't see the advantage given those circumstances. |
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