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Back to OP's point -- as I previously mentioned (and strangely, got negged for), why don't you try opening up some savings accts/ira's/cd's w/MBNA?

IF his goal really is to reopen the accts, why not accept the somewhat lower than tops interest rates for savings accts, etc at MBNA? Once he establishes a banking relationship w/MBNA he
a)has slightly more leverage/shows his good faith effort in doing biz w/mbna in other areas.
B)MBNA may be less worried about default, etc, since he has a large asset chunk w/them already...

Of course, maybe his CC activities have already blacklisted him w/mbna savings...but this does not generally seem to be the case...

I'm NOT making any pronouncement on whether this is worth it (ie, how likely this is to work, and whether the benefits+sacrifices are really worth it). I'm just offering the OP another POTENTIAL way to try to convince MBNA to reopen his accts.


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tooshy said:What happened to Reckner? He's now Sloth911??

I want to know too!


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I use MBNA exclusively for paying my bills (mostly other credit cards) through their BillPay. I do not overpay MBNA, but haven't made any purchases in a long time, so that part of my spending patterns is similar to OP's. Has anyone had any problems with this (without creating a credit balance)? I haven't so far.

I have a CU credit card (will not mention the name; limited membership eligibility) that does not mind overpayment at all: they just transfer the credit balance to my savings account instantly. I suspect there are other Credit Unions with the same setup. This is most convenient for earning multiple $5 Citi Dividend BT credits. I can even request five separate BTs of $1500 to the same creditor in one shot.

It is not worth it, though, if you have to pay BT fee or interest. Of course, you can request BT from Citi and pay them same day (using MBNA or Citi Click-to-Pay), but I haven't tried.


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I, too, use MBNA for 2 things:

1)Billpay, billpay, billpay (including some directly to my ameritrade account for direct float)
2)Occasionally, their Fidelity 529 2% Cash Back on everything mastercard (up to $75k spend/yr)

I have had no problems w/the near-maxing of credit lines w/billpay and almost 0 purchases, and payment in full every month, and I've been doing it for years.

I did note, however, that MBNA started doing a lot more pulls than they used to (occasionally, unprompted hard pulls even) -- but this is probably a function of the high util, not the billpay overusage. So, I've since modified my behavior slightly -- I get slightly less float, but I rolling maximize by paying down the balance pre-statement/date of report to credit agencies...


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I recently had a similar incident with MBNA. I have a 0% ending at Chase so I was going to BT to MBNA. My MBNA CL is half that of my Chase limit so I spoke with a senior credit analyst so I could BT the entire amount.

Even though I have never overpaid MBNA, nor am I late on any of my cards, she decided to immediately close all my MBNA accounts because the 0% I took advantage of is 150% of my income. I can see them not wanting to allow the BT but to close the accounts of a customer in good standing and with a good credit report, isn't that excessive?

I don't think I abused the system in anyway (other than to use the 0% offers that were sent to me), so I am pretty peeved. I don't usually use my MBNA cards because their offers aren't that great, but I would like to have them to decrease my percent utilization. Other than speaking to a supervisor, is there anything I can do/say?


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jlgrandam said:I don't think Billpay activity had anything to do with these closings. Reckner said it was due to his high credit availability to income ratio.

i agree...

on another point...

its a wise decision to pay off the balances monthly, but if the company sees that they are not making money from you... they would gladly let you go...

it costs them to keep a customer...sending bills and offers, reporting to credit bureaus, etc

they borrow money at 5% to 6%, and then they got nothing from the customer..

IMO only...


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Are you able to use billpay to pay other company credit cards/loans with the MBNA as the funding sources?


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count me on the list. They just closed all my accounts.
Reason: too many credits line open in 2005


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I doubt you can do anything about it if they closed your accounts. Best bet is wait a month or two and reapply


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micecali said:count me on the list. They just closed all my accounts.
Reason: too many credits line open in 2005
This is why people (us FWFers!!) shouldn't go crazy abusing every GC offer in town.


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Sounds like BofA is taking over... Chase also closed a bunch of Bank One accounts during their merge.

Also, closed MBNA cards and AU accounts disappeared from my credit report!


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micecali said:count me on the list. They just closed all my accounts.
Reason: too many credits line open in 2005
Were your MBNA CLs being utilized at the time? Any action you took that might have triggered the fatal credit review?


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You're toast. Move on.

Tytie


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I did call them up 2 weeks ago and combine 3 of my accounts into 1 with total of $25,000 credit line. Maybe that's the reason why it came up on the review. But anyway, he said that I have too much credit line ($207,000.00 total). And he did not feel comfortable giving me more credit, blab blab..
Oh, I received that 1.99% APR on transfer just couple days ago from them as well.
That's ok I guess since I don't use their credit card after the 10% rebate anymore.


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micecali said:count me on the list. They just closed all my accounts.
Reason: too many credits line open in 2005


oh....it is too much credit line...

How many credit accounts were closed?


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tooshy said:micecali said:count me on the list. They just closed all my accounts.
Reason: too many credits line open in 2005


oh....it is too much credit line...

How many credit accounts were closed?

They closed the 1 account that I just combined 2 week ago(25k line)
My DH got 4 of his closed


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micecali said:They closed the 1 account that I just combined 2 week ago(25k line)
My DH got 4 of his closed


If you don't mind sharing this information micecali, it may be helpful to avoid this same thing happening to others. Was your $207,000 in credit lines all credit card lines or does that number include HELOC's or other lines? Also was that $207,000 just your credit lines alone, or was that combined with your spouse's credit lines? The total debt to income ratio may have some effect on their action. If you had a reported income of $40,000 or so and $207,000 in credit card lines, that might have factored into their decision. Thanks.


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micecali said:tooshy said:micecali said:count me on the list. They just closed all my accounts.
Reason: too many credits line open in 2005


oh....it is too much credit line...

How many credit accounts were closed?

They closed the 1 account that I just combined 2 week ago(25k line)
My DH got 4 of his closed
Thanks for sharing your info....DH and I have 7 accounts (3 each and 1 joint). I'm bracing for similar action, but it seems (correct me if I'm wrong) it takes an MBNA manual review to bring the house (of cards) down.

Recently I did a credit report review of our accounts, and the last MBNA inquiry (for both of us, probably due to the Schwab application) was done in 5/05, nothing since.


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slimcustomer said:micecali said:They closed the 1 account that I just combined 2 week ago(25k line)
My DH got 4 of his closed


If you don't mind sharing this information micecali, it may be helpful to avoid this same thing happening to others. Was your $207,000 in credit lines all credit card lines or does that number include HELOC's or other lines? Also was that $207,000 just your credit lines alone, or was that combined with your spouse's credit lines? The total debt to income ratio may have some effect on their action. If you had a reported income of $40,000 or so and $207,000 in credit card lines, that might have factored into their decision. Thanks.


Sure, I don't mind sharing the info. The credit analyst said that my report showing I have the total of 207k credit line from all of my credit cards. I think it should be a combination of both my dh and me. Otherwise, I wouldn't think that I have that much credit line. We don't have HELOC.
He said that it's too much of credit base on my total househouse income (100k+).
What can I say. They wouldn't reinstate the accounts for both of us. Oh wel..

Also, I forgot to mention that they closed my sister's account too.
Reason: she lives in the same address with me (dear lord!).


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Thanks micecali and sorry to hear about your bad fortune with MBNA. Everything else being equal, I would assume my accounts with them would be in jeopardy as well. I'm going to do everything possible to avoid review of my account. No new accounts with them, no requests for CL increases, etc.


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