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This thread contains a lot of information about USAA and their products and services. If there is anything you feel should be added, changed, or deleted, please send me a private message or put it in the Quick Summary.


GENERAL INFORMATION



Website
USAA

To gain access to the full website, you need a member number. There is no obligation, and this will allow you to see USAA's full product range. Call 1-800-531-2265.

Routing Number
314074269

Eligibility Requirements
Property and Casualty Insurance: To get property or casualty insurance from USAA, you have to have a military affiliation.

Banking: To open a bank account, you must meet one of these requirements:
1. have a military affiliation
2. be a current bank customer
3. be a resident of Bexar County, Texas (San Antonio)



PRODUCTS AND SERVICES



Checking
- No minimum or average balance requirements
- No monthly service fees
- 1/2 percent rebate of all non-PIN purchases made with the Debit Mastercard
- ATM card and Debit Mastercard both available
- Free bill pay (no balance or direct deposit requirements)
- Free checks for the life of the account (custom blue USAA non-duplicate checks, one box per order)
- New accounts can be funded by mailing a check, by initiating an ACH transfer from another bank, or by using a credit/debit card ($500 maximum on credit/debit cards)
- Only Visa and Mastercard accepted for opening deposit
- $25 to open

USAA Savings
- No minimum or average balance requirements
- No monthly service fees
- Tiered interest rates depending on balance
- $25 to open

Performance First Index Account
- No minimum or average balance requirements
- No monthly service fees
- Tiered interest rates depending on balance
- $10,000 to open

First Start Savings
- No minimum or average balance requirements
- No monthly service fees
- Tiered interest rates depending on balance
- $1 to open
- Available to persons 17 years of age and younger

Credit Cards
Those without a military affiliation might pay higher interest rates and may not be eligible for credit card rewards programs.

Other Account Features
- No ATM fees on the first 10 non-USAA ATM withdrawals each statement cycle ($2.00 each after that)
- ATM surcharge rebates of up to $15.00 per account per statement cycle
- Real-time online banking


INTEREST RATES



The first column shows the current rates; current rates are in effect through the date at the top of the first column. The other columns show previous rates so that you can see a trend in rates.

Checking
08/10 ---- 06/15 ---- 05/25 ---- 05/18 ---- 04/27 ---- 04/20 ---- 04/13---- Tier

0.00% --- 0.00% --- 0.00% --- 0.00% --- 0.00% --- 0.00% --- 0.00% --- Under $1,000.00
0.15% --- 0.15% --- 0.15% --- 0.15% --- 0.15% --- 0.15% --- 0.15% --- $1,000 and over

USAA Savings and First Start Savings
08/10 ---- 06/15 ---- 05/25 ---- 05/18 ---- 04/27 ---- 04/20 ---- 04/13 ---- Tier

2.85% --- 2.75% --- 2.75% --- 2.50% --- 2.50% --- 2.50% --- 2.50% --- $0 to $999.99
3.65% --- 3.56% --- 3.56% --- 3.30% --- 3.30% --- 3.30% --- 3.30% --- $1,000.00 to $4,999.99
3.75% --- 3.61% --- 3.61% --- 3.35% --- 3.35% --- 3.35% --- 3.35% --- $5,000.00 to $9,999.99
3.90% --- 3.71% --- 3.71% --- 3.45% --- 3.45% --- 3.45% --- 3.45% --- $10,000.00 to $24,999.00
4.15% --- 3.87% --- 3.87% --- 3.61% --- 3.61% --- 3.61% --- 3.61% --- $25,000 and up

Performance First Index Account
08/10 ---- 06/15 ---- 05/25 ---- 05/18 ---- 04/27 ---- 04/20 ---- 04/13 ---- Tier

2.22% --- 2.22% --- 2.22% --- 2.22% --- 2.22% --- 2.22% --- 2.22% --- $0 to $9,999.99
4.80% --- 4.51% --- 4.43% --- 4.34% --- 4.29% --- 4.25% --- 4.22% --- $10,000.00 - $24,999,99
5.06% --- 4.77% --- 4.69% --- 4.60% --- 4.55% --- 4.51% --- 4.48% --- $25,000.00 - $49,999.99
5.17% --- 4.88% --- 4.79% --- 4.71% --- 4.66% --- 4.61% --- 4.58% --- $50,000 and up

CDs and IRAs
The CD and IRA rate levels are too numerous to list all of them here, but the rates are very competitive, generally ranging from 3.50%APY to 5.25%APY, although the rates change often.


OTHER INFORMATION



ACH Transfers
USAA has an ACH transfer capability which allows you to electronically transfer funds from any of your other bank accounts at other financial institutions. The service is very fast.

ACH transfers into a USAA account requested before 8:00 p.m. Central Time will be used to pay checks the same night.

ACH transfers involving non-USAA accounts are limited to an aggregate $5,000 per day, including future/scheduled transfers.

I would also caution people from using USAA simply to transfer funds to and from other bank accounts. I have heard stories of USAA closing accounts when used simply as a "transfer account."

Online Banking
Online banking is real-time. For example, if you make an ATM withdrawal, the transaction shows up online immediately, including the location of the ATM. Likewise, if you make a Debit Mastercard purchase, the purchase shows up online immediately, including the name of the merchant.

Transfers from one account to another are immediately available in the destination account.

Customer Service
USAA has the best customer service in the business. They are one of the only institutions that consistently gets the answer right the first time. They are always friendly on the phone, and always eager to help in whatever way they can. They make you feel that they really do want your business.

Bill Pay
With Bill Pay, there are 3 different ways that a payment could be made (remember that "Payment Date" means the date you want the payee to receive the payment):

- Electronic Payment - the funds for the bill payment are withdrawn from your account on the Payment Date.
- Check Payment - funds are withdrawn when the payee cashes the check.
- "Guaranteed Funds" Check Payment - funds are withdrawn on the Payment Date.

You can often pay next day, often as late as 6-7 pm Eastern time, which is beyond their official cut-off times.

Software
USAA allows direct download of account information (credit card, checking, savings) from:
- Microsoft Money
- Quicken (yes, Quicken is supported)
- Yodlee

ATM and Debit Card Rebates
The ATM surcharge rebates and Debit Card rebates are deposited into your account automatically at the end of the statement cycle; you do not have to mail in ATM receipts for the ATM surcharge rebate.

Miscellaneous Information
- USAA uses their own "security verification system" - not sure if that means ChexSystems, identity verification through a credit report, or what.
- You cannot make deposits at a non-USAA ATM.
- If you are not a U.S. citizen, you may be asked to send in identification before the account(s) can be opened or you receive your membership number.
- USAA's Touchline (automated telephone banking) is voice-driven.
- USAA's Quick Post deposit method allows members to send checks overnight via UPS for posting the next day.

How to add a non-USAA account online without mailing/faxing forms (credit to freerebater)
Follow these steps:
1. Log into your account and click on "Transfer Funds."
2. On the Funds Transfer screen, click on "Manage Accounts" on the right side of the screen.
3. When your list of accounts appears, click on any account link.
4. When that account information comes up, click on "Return" at the bottom of the screen.
5. On the following screen, click on "Add Non-USAA Account" and you should now be able to add it online.

From GoCowboys:

Even after adding accounts online, members are now being asked to call in to activate the account for transfer purposes. Some have been able to do this over the phone while others have been told they must send in the paper Authorization Form. I was even told that the ability to add accounts online was for military-affiliated members only. I'm not sure what the real facts are at this time.

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If you want this to be the "ultimate" USAA thread, a couple of obvious things you're missing for someone even just beginning to look: 1. a link to USAA, 2. description their eligibity requirements (which I think comes down to being military, or related to someone who is, right?)

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Thanks for pointing that out. I fixed the original post.

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I have heard that USAA has decent credit card offerings...notably low APR's, high limits, CashBack, only 1% foreign transaction fee, etc.

Does anyone have info on their CC offerings to add here?

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is the debit card rebate flat 1.5%?

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No it is 0.5%

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Thanks GoCowboys. Several remarks:

This topic was listed on the IWANNA thread, and TheBigDon was finishing up his own topic as we speak. I'm sure you didn't see it...I PMed him and requested that he work with you on this.Online banking is real-time. Only to a degree. I had a 45 minute conversation with a manager yesterday, who confirmed that "we are not a real-time bank", and many transactions DO NOT show up in real time. They hope to have a conversion to this upgraded by October.

As for"Current Interest Rates," you should point out that this is for their basic, no-minimum savings product only. Their next tier looks like this (I didn't see a link that works unless yo'ure logged in..?) Performance First Index
Annual Percentage Yield (APY)

Description Interest Rate APY* Minimum Initial Deposit
Daily bal less than $10,000 1.30 1.31 $10,000
Daily bal $10,000 - $24,999 2.79 2.83 $10,000
Daily bal $25,000 - $49,999 3.04 3.08 $10,000
Daily bal $50,000 and over 3.14 3.19 $10,000
Annual Percentage Yields
apply for deposits
received by 08-18-05
So, once one gets over $10K and especially $25-50K, this product isn't too far behind the industry leaders. Moreover, the favorable "float" treatment it gives (you get interest from the day an ACH in is requested from USAA's bank, not when funds are received), means the true returns are often higher than this.

As for ACH transfers. They are superb, but have some distinctive restrictions. First, limits are $5K per account per calendar business day. (This limit CAN be increased by appealing to USAA). AND, only 1 ACH in per account per day. (This CANNOT be increased by appeal). One can do multiple OUTs per account per day, but I don't believe one can do multiple outs AND ins per day. That means that there is good reason to open multiple accounts, if you intend on doing lots of ACH transferring. Funds requested show up on "available balance" in real time, though if it's late in the day, they may not truly be "available" yet to clear checks or resend out (so says the manager I spoke with, anyway).

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"No ATM fees on the first 10 non-USAA ATM withdrawals ($1.00 each after that)"

Is this per month?

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My thread was slow to post due to USAA method of established ACH accounts, GoCowboys beat me to it. He made most of the highlings I was making; but a few points I think should be added

A few other points –

Funds availability – There is some discrepancy as to how USAA shows funds in the account, there has been some anecdotal evidence that mail cheeks clear along an unfavorable time frame where some checks are held up to 9 days. I have no come across this as of yet, as I have not send a $5000 plus check into the bank. However, a CS rep said there some flexibility with this policy. This is the only item that I was USAA would change. Personally, I feel the Penfed Trust in You Service is the most consumer friendly bank by mail system I have ever found. I wish USAA would do something similar.

ATM Rebates - $15.00 per month, but USAA charges you $1.00 for all non USAA ATM withdrawals after 10 per month. I think this is very fair.

Real time banking – From what I can tell, the money is held for debit cards transactions if there is an authorization, but the transaction doesn’t always post right away, this may be due to the posting of CC transaction and the merchant.

ACH – From other posts, I have arrives at an 8 PM CDT cut off for the ACH for next business day cut off. ACH started before 8 PM CT, and then the xfer should be available the next day. Afterwards, the transaction occurs two days out. I am still waiting for the all clear on ACH, as my accounts was just set up not that long ago.

Customer Service - -I have yet to find a bank that has as great customer service as USAA, there hours are fantastic. However, while establishing an account is easy, it’s is not a fluid as ING, but it makes for a great transactional account.

I once dated someone who was a member of USAA – her father was in the service and was a full member for property and casualty. The insurance rates always made my head spin, there were so low.

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News to me, this post by emre on 8/9/05. I'm a member, but know nothing of this dividend. I do get a dividend back on my car insurance premium, but I think this is something else. Worth noting in the USAA particulars for membership or in some tiered-benefits category? -Zer (whose membership may be tiered as a military dependent, since I am a total non-combatant myself; however, I am totally rated for safe-driver discount on USAA auto insurance) emre1000 - answering a query on "What is USAA SSA?" thread.
SSA = Subscribers Savings Account. My understanding is it's how much of the reserves that USAA keeps which belongs to you. Some years, they don't pay anything out to you but you get money deposited into it, other years, you get a credit from it against your insurance premiums. USAA is owned by the members, therefore, they are the ones who get the SSA. This is only if you have insurance through USAA, and only if it's throught the parent organization which is for NCO's and Officers in the military and their families maybe. Junior Enlisted members are placed into the USAA General Insurance company until they become NCO's or not. The General Insurance is also where they place all of the high-risk driver to make them pay higher premiums and not the whole USAA population. The SSA is separate than the dividends that they pay out.
EDIT: Just confirmed that SSA is not for dependents. Eligibility is restricted to officers/NCOs, widows of officers/NCOs, USAA employees with five yrs service. Got that info at 1-800-531-8111, which is the USAA ph# on my notice of USAA automobile dividend credit.

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the ELIGIBILITY section of the OP as related to bank /insurance products should be highlighted in bold

EVERYTIME USAA gets discussed here, people do not take the time to read that ANYONE can get their banking products - its only the INSURANCE products which require military affiliation

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Please note that credit card interest rates are high for non-military members. Non-military members are also not eligible for rewards cards.

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I got USAA before I got out, after doing research. Their homeowners and car insurance was MUCH cheaper. I got an awsome cust. servise rep so I had her use all her skills and knowledge to my advantage. When you get a good one who is willing to talk to you like a friend get them to hook you up. Being good with people is valuable in money saving, as all fw'ers know. After establishing a common bond or two, allow them to impress you with how well the can save you money. I'm sure they know more tricks and ways of finagiling the numbers the we do. Maybe I just get lucky but I can always find a rep that will slow down and have a conversation. I have been known to call the same company twice in a row to get a dif rep. Sometimes you just do not hit it off. I just say that I must have lost the signal so they know why their computer says I just called.

Oh, she called me back over the next couple of days getting all the info for the rewards 0% 12 mo. credit card, homeowners insurance, and car insurace.

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I've been a USAA member since I was about 15 - never used any of their services - my parents made me a member. I just did a quote and it's $1,101.87 for 6 months - wow - I pay $1430.00 for 1 year with AAA. Yet again another disapointment with them.

They have the best customer service tho

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Thanks Gocowboy for starting a USAA thread.

I would find it helpful if you mentioned in title that this was a discussion about USAA financial products, not insurance.

Also I may add, to open a checking account (not sure about savings), a one-time max $500 cc (purchase) funding is accepted. I have yet to verify the rewards earned with using my Penfed VISA. But funding and assignment of bank account number was immediate. I opened our account on 8/8 and received my first month's statement (with a 8/8 closing date) by mail yesterday. Today I received our debit cards and a letter saying their Web BillPay service is active and ready to use.

I'm very impressed with their expedient follow thru. But just wondering how this compares to Capital One HYS/MM? I think I opted for USAA because it could do the job (ACH and checking) with one account vs. having to open and manage two separate accounts, although I'm losing some interest that I could otherwise earn with Capital One. But the object of USAA is just to serve as a pivot point to my local bank and higher yield savings, and it seems for now Presidential is the bank with the highest rate, albeit a minimum 5K deposit. I plan to add more banks to ACH transfer if/when other banks top Presidential's 3.87 rate.

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I just looked at a stmt and see that my USAA MC/Visa CC shows 6%apr for purchase and 9%apr for cash advance, with $20k CL. I do not carry a balance. Better rates for USAA cash advance checks arrive from time to time, but I don't recall what rate they offer as I shred the checks on arrival. I'm not military (no military service my own self), but my membership is as a military dependent. I don't do 'rewards' or 'points', but I vaguely recall that some USAA card I have offers some rewards. Maybe it's the debit card linked to checking. I don't use debit cards. Just don't remember that dang PIN! -Zer Grim said: Please note that credit card interest rates are high for non-military members. Non-military members are also not eligible for rewards cards.

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Another thing that's not mentioned here is they offer free checks for life. Here is what I found on their site.


Order Checks, Deposit Slips & Deposit Envelopes


Get free checks at USAA Federal Savings Bank
Get USAA custom blue, non-duplicate checks free for the life of your account from Clarke American.

Or order a box in any other design at regular price and get the second box for 50% off.

You may also use this service to order deposit slips or deposit envelopes.

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Grim said:Please note that credit card interest rates are high for non-military members. Non-military members are also not eligible for rewards cards.

Are there any non-military memebrs here who hold USAA credit cards? What are your rates?

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foomeister said:Are there any non-military memebrs here who hold USAA credit cards? What are your rates?
Don't know what you mean by non-military. I have not personally served in the military, though my father did, so I fall into the former military dependent category. I have a 7.75% APR on purchases from USAA and 10.75% on cash advances. The card offers a flat 1% Cash Back on everything. I was offered the card after a long period of non-use on my previous USAA credit card.

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