ALERT: $599 Charges Now!!! 180 Total: 99+ FW'ers Hit so Far: Check your CC Statements - ESTOREONLINE ROCKLIN, CA Fraud

VERY IMPORTANT UPDATE: Some card users who were victims are now reporting their same cards are being hit again with charges in the $599 range (that's right, FIVE HUNDRED NINETY-NINE !!)

Keep a very close eye on your statements because it seems for those of us who were unable to get a new card, the crooks still have our CC #.

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EDIT: Half of the affected cardholders have nothing to do with Page Computers. Seems like AMEX itself may have been compromised? everybody double check their AMEX statements

Just realized for the past 2 months ESTOREONLINE ROCKLIN, CA has been charging my card, and its a bookstore... that doesn't exist.

funny thing is i don't ever use this card.

last time i used it was at the end of April for a price mistake by Page Computers in CA but i cant find the FW thread

[i suspected page computers at first because they are also in CA and they are the only charge on my AMEX in like a year, but the trend seems to indicate its an AMEX leak]

they refunded my money but kept my CC number

anybody else getting these fraudulent charges on their credit card the past few months?

[Edited to update how many of us have been hit]

over an amazing 7 dozen victims when added to deal discussion thread, which could mean hundreds or thousands of non-fatwallet victims out there.

99th as of Mamatech on page 20

91 or more out of 99 are confirmed AMEX, if yours have been compromised please note if yours was AMEX or not

also, about 81 non-ESTOREONLINE fraud charges also have been caught:

and DIGITAL AGE: 47 victims so far on MC/Visa as of knew25 PG 20

Important Note: Some people are reporting that the same CC hit by Digital Age was then hit again by a different company.

and 5 from APPROPO $24.99 to $7.95
1 from SPRINT SPECTRUM
4 AZ Business Products
3 KC SOFTWARECOM LLC
3 or more GENEREX TECHNOLOGY LLC
2 absolute-soft.com
1 CCHOME EL PASO TX
1 HOSTITNOW,INC. STATEN ISLAND NY $7.95
1 WP-NEDBUL WESTERBROEK $24.99
1 KEYSTONE 4 WEALTH WESTERVILLE OH
1 Softprojects LLC
2 Hostitnow.com
2 BURDETTINC.COM
1-2 wp-iconready.com

glad ppl are checking their statements.

garycoleman was hit by samedaymusic.com $599.95 on AMEX
Darinn was hit on Hotels.com $599.40 on Bankone debitcard

Darinn says their card was somehow charged under somebody else's name; Hotels.com is a legitimate site, so are the scammers dumb enuff to be booking their vacations with our cards or are they running some sort of affiliate scam?

more important question is why havent you checked your bill and caught this for the past 2 months?

XFreebie said: i never use this card. last time i used it was almost 6 months ago

also the first charge they do is small, and then the next month's was larger

A small first charge is a very common technique used by fraudsters. This is where having an aggregation software like Yodlee helps - its hard to not notice a charge on your CC that you were not expecting if you check Yodlee on regular basis.

While on this, I also would mention that lately I have started using one-time cards more and more. MBNA and Citibank provide one-time cards, which are a life saver.

didYOUsearch said: since you know you havent been using this card, wouldnt it be even MORE obvious (from the bill you got in the mail, or the online statement notification) that something was going on??

Agree. Much easier to catch it on a card that you don't use

actually i double checked the dates of the charges, the first charge happened 8/25 or 23 days ago about when the cycle ended. the 2nd charge was 9/15 a mere 3 days ago which raised a red flag because actually i was logging on the check out the first charge and saw the 2nd as well

so i googled the store name and somebody else has the same predicament (2 months of consecutive charges)

the reason why i brought this issue up is to give a heads up because the only thing i have used this card on in a year is the page computers "price mistake" (which they charged and refunded), so i suspect they leaked my CC, which would mean other fatwallers may be at risk

but yeah i gotta avoid those

do you think the computer place leaked the CCs of just those who tried to take advantage of the price mistake , sort of a vigilante justice kind of thing?

that would be a great story for Ron Lieber!

Doesn't everybody reconcile their CC statements every month? I enter the CC charges in my Quicken just like I do with my checks. When the statments come in, if anything shows up that I didn't charge then I know about it right then. (I don't actually wait until I get the statement, I reconcile to the online balance at least 3 times a week.)

To clarify, my purchase from Page had nothing to do with the pricing mistake. It was for a completely different item, about 9 months ago. Not sure if there is a relationship or not.

I've gotten charges from them too. Last month I was checking my unbilled activity there was a $15.99 charge (looked fishy to me since the charge description didn't have a web address as usual). I called AMEX and they gladly credited me back. Then a week later I checked again and they charged me again! AMEX again reversed the charges and offered to change my card number, though I didn't bother because I thought maybe it was just a mistake (so I'll probably do that soon). But I did ask them for the store's address:

ESTOREONLINE
2823 Catalina Drive
Rocklin, CA 95765

Doing a reverse lookup in the yellow pages it says it's a person's address, so I'm not sure what that means. And I think I did also buy from Page Computers a while back, but I use this CC for a lot of online purchases from a lot of different stores.

Thanks for the heads up! I also got a charge for $26.99 on 7/28 on my AMEX.

that makes 7 people (perhaps 6 in this thread) with fake charges from ESTOREONLINE ROCKLIN, CA

should this be moved to HD for a few days? i think it'd get alot more coverage, most ppl dont venture past HD. i have a feeling there could be dozens, given that they have been pulling this scam for 2 whole months.


BTW this was on my AMEX blue.
i noticed for 3 of us this happened on our AMEX cards, the other 3, were u using AMEX?

if so this might implicate a leak from AMEX but i still think page computers has something to do with it

yea, move to HD and FS too since many ppl go there.

Add my two charges this summer after purchasing from Page Computers. I disputed with AMEX and never knew where the charges came from. All on FW should beware of this activity!

Moral of the story! Use one time CC numbers to buy stuff online and Check your statements every month!! or login to Yodlee frequently.

dupontcobb said: I got a charge of 15.99 from the same store on my AMEX blue card. I noticed this on Memorial Day, and I havent ordered any computer stuff. I immediately contacted AMEX, and they reversed the charge.

Dupontcobb

Memorial Day was in May this year...

walletLess said: Op, gave you green. I think it is good to have these posted here, in case someone did not check the CC statements carefully. Anyone who reads FWF and does not check their statements carefully deserves to be shot.

Agree this should be moved to Hot Deals or another forum where people like to spend freely and dont pay attention to their finances

One-time CC numbers? I don't know about this. I do have a short-credit-line CC that I use for online stuff, figuring no one can go too far overboard on this CC, but one-time-use CC cards sounds like a good idea. Need to hear more about this. Oh, do a SEARCH? Ah-h-h... yes... might do that. pruks said: Moral of the story! Use one time CC numbers to buy stuff online and Check your statements every month!! or login to Yodlee frequently.

They got me on my AMEX for $8.99 in July.

I was hit by this type of scam earlier this year on my long unused AMEX account. AMEX reversed the charge which was in the $15-$20 range. If enough people complain, then perhaps the FBI will take some action.

It might not be so weird. Perhaps Page computers sorts it's customers credit card data by card type and the American Express file was compromised by hackers or whoever is doing these fraud charges.

Another one from RSI Partners:

On 02/27/06 a charge for $9.55 from RSI Partners Ocean City MD was posted to one of my credit cards.
Called Citi(AT&T) to dispute(in writing), however, the CSR just put through a credit instead. Sounds like they are familiar with this company and charge.

Verify all credit card statements!!