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bhupeshm
- Thrifty Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 3:39p
So the theory is that by slooooowly taking money out of checking and into savings BOA helps people save.
1) People are going to go ga-ga using this and THEN realizing that they are paying out cash faster than they need to (grace period on credit cards)
2) Draw down on BOA checking a bit quicker, not because of the rounding but just using it on more transactions.. maybe more people go below their monthly minimum requirements?
... I'm trying to find BOA's angle on this.
... Also, do the merchants pay a larger transaction fee on this? (because purchase price is higher?)
Waiting for BOA to help Americans off drugs too! |
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BuyBuyBuySellSellSell
- Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 3:53p
BOA charges a fee for more than 6 transactions on savings accounts. It sounds like this is a daily transfer.
Surely they don't charge you for every deposit...?? |
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dumadum
- Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 4:01p
Can we buy 10 gum packs , using separate transcations on the automated checkout station in grocery stores. Each pack of gum is 20 cents. Does that mean BofA will deposit 8 dollars into my savings account ? |
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fboyfboy
- Ancient Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 4:04p
BuyBuyBuySellSellSell said:BOA charges a fee for more than 6 transactions on savings accounts. It sounds like this is a daily transfer.
Surely they don't charge you for every deposit...??
First, it depends on the kind of savings account. Second, it does not count deposit. |
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Moosy
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 4:06p
bhupeshm said:So the theory is that by slooooowly taking money out of checking and into savings BOA helps people save.
1) People are going to go ga-ga using this and THEN realizing that they are paying out cash faster than they need to (grace period on credit cards)
2) Draw down on BOA checking a bit quicker, not because of the rounding but just using it on more transactions.. maybe more people go below their monthly minimum requirements?
... I'm trying to find BOA's angle on this.
... Also, do the merchants pay a larger transaction fee on this? (because purchase price is higher?)
Waiting for BOA to help Americans off drugs too!
Even if they don't make money out of it. And they will because the savings account give 0.5% of interest, and people will use their card more, they just got a lot of positive PR for nothing much. How many non FWers will bother go to the bank and sign for it? |
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fboyfboy
- Ancient Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 4:16p
The rule says "round up" and the example BoA gave has $3.43 -> $0.57 -> $4.00
Is there minimum purchase limit for POS transaction? If not, spending $2.52 by making 252 $0.01 transaction will allow us to make $250. Now that's just hypothetical.  |
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Neidman
- Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 5:36p
fotomaniak said: there are few cons: - you don't want to make many small purchases from the same place(I guess max that would fly under the radar would be 3-5 small purchases a month from the same place) - you have to varry the purchase amounts, so you can't just make a bunch of $1.01 purchases - you have to make some larger purchases too, otherwise your bank statement would look very suspicious. Maybe I missed something in the rules, but why couldn't you make a bunch of small purchases? Who cares if it looks "suspicious". |
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wrx2004
- Broke Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 5:40p
Are you sure that it has to be a debit transaction (pin) in order to earn the match? From the BoA website, it seems that I only need to use the check card for the purchase to earn the match. So using the check card online would work also.
arun21 said:johto said:wonder if the first 3 months is of the program, or per person based on their signup?
lot's of $1.01 charges to Verizon/Cingular/etc. coming up I bet!
must be a debit transaction. i.e. requiring you to enter your pin. will only work in actual stores, not online. your debit can be processed as a credit card as well but will ultimately end up to be the same thing. (signing for it, or entering your pin). |
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e1superman
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 7:47p
Is anyone forgetting that Bofa accounts have the lowest shiieeettttttt ball interest rates. I hope you do not plan on keeping real money in there. Also see my post about the break even points and note that you will make more over the course of a year via your Cash Back credit card anyhow. |
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samko
- Addicted Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 8:27p
So now the trick is to find a way to spend X.01, 252 times over all within a 3-month period.
1) My first instinct is to use the PO stamp machines, but I'm not too familiar with the denominations that they accept. 3x37c=1.11 and thus 89 cents back. 280 iterations required. Pros: Easy to do Cons: You end up with 840 37-cent stamps ($310.80 of stamps)(maybe use them in the Mcdonald's Best Buy deal); your card may be frozen after two or three purchases at the same place; may be time consuming.
2) Amother option is to use it at the gas station two or three times before you actually fill up with your 5% card. CC are usually frozen after being used two or three times in one day at a gas pump. Pros: Easy to do Cons: Most people only get gas once per week so this equates to 13 times per 3 months and thus only up to 39 purchases.
3) Someone else may be able to help out with this last idea - using a paypal merchant account to charge your bankcard $1.01 252 times over. This comes to an average of three times per day over 84 days. It seems that paypal fees are about 33cents per transaction. Pros: Very easy to do once it is set up Cons: Paypal fees would reduce your take to 66 cents per transaction (252x.66=$166.32) - not a bad take for a little work.
Maybe a combination of all 3 ideas would work best.
All these ideas require at least $504 (252x$2) to be in your checking account. I suppose after some money was trasferred to your savings account, you could just transfer it back to your checking account.
Please add any good ideas you may have.
Edit: At the post office, the smallest dollar amount you can buy with a cc is $1. |
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ctrain
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 9:01p
I will sign on for this. At work I have access to the CC machine and I can just charge $1.01 every day. $250 free money for me at least. |
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DaloSony
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 9:53p
fboyfboy said:The rule says "round up" and the example BoA gave has $3.43 -> $0.57 -> $4.00
Is there minimum purchase limit for POS transaction? If not, spending $2.52 by making 252 $0.01 transaction will allow us to make $250. Now that's just hypothetical. 
what can you buy for $0.01?? |
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DaloSony
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 9:57p
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Slickdoobi
- Addicted Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 10:21p
I think everyone is reading this wrong. This is how it works according to the BofA site. If you charge something for $1.01, they will charge your accunt $2.00 and just transfer the difference to your SAVINGS account. They are not giving you anything. They are just helping round up stuff to help you save money. Thus it is the small amounts that will add up.
So the 1st 3 months they match the difference 100% and after that only 5%
Cool concept, but would be easier to just transfer $25 a month out of your checking to Savings and get about the same thing. |
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xpguy
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 10:31p
go back and read it again slickdoobie, from what I understand...
Say you have $100 in checking $0 in savings You go and buy a piece of candy for $1.01
They will move $0.99 from your checking to savings They will match that 100% in the 1st 3 months (give you $0.99)
Now your account looks like: checking $98.00 savings $2.99 (your $2 plus their 100% match of $0.99)
did I read this wrong? |
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Slickdoobi
- Addicted Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 10:35p
no you are right, but your numbers are wrong. But I am sure they have a month limit of the 100% match, so not going to be true free deal, just pretty much a bonus that you can get anyways for opening up a checking account. Nothing is ever really free. xpguy said:go back and read it again slickdoobie, from what I understand...
Say you have $100 in checking $0 in savings You go and buy a piece of candy for $1.01
They will move $0.99 from your checking to savings They will match that 100% in the 1st 3 months (give you $0.99)
Now your account looks like: checking $98.00 savings $2.99 (your $2 plus their 100% match of $0.99)
did I read this wrong? |
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dumadum
- Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 10:40p
xpguy said: did I read this wrong?
I guess so. they would move the round off , 1 - (cents portion of your purchase) , amount to your savings so they would move 0.99 of your money from checking to savings. for the first 3 months they would match that 100% so add another 0.99 to savings So in total you would have 98 in checking 1.98 in savings. & 1.01 worth of candy . |
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lookingdeals
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 11:19p
I luv the fw finance forum members, lol
I believe you guys are more thrifty than the hot deals folks and that is an accomplishment!
If I had a bofa bank in my town I might jump on this just for the fun of it! |
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xpguy
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 11:22p
opps you're right, I forgot to deduct the cost of the candy bar from savings |
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dpid
- Ancient Member
posted: Oct. 5, 2005 @ 11:30p
since i have a checking acct with bofa... i might as well try this out.
i tried thinking of places to use it... but can't. Gas I get back 5%. Supermarkets too. Telephone and post office I get back 2x. leaving me with my coffee and thinking if I could do the paypal as samko mentioned instead...
3) Someone else may be able to help out with this last idea - using a paypal merchant account to charge your bankcard $1.01 252 times over. This comes to an average of three times per day over 84 days. It seems that paypal fees are about 33cents per transaction. Pros: Very easy to do once it is set up Cons: Paypal fees would reduce your take to 66 cents per transaction (252x.66=$166.32) - not a bad take for a little work. |
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