help
edit

Forums
Finance

Please help: MBNA cancelled credit cards due to BillPay activities and not carrying balance Archived From: Finance

  • Text Only
  • Search this Topic »
  • Classic
alert mods    

I don't know if this question belongs to this forum, as I am looking for advices. MBNA has just cancelled both of my credit card accounts with them without notifying me in advance (They said that they've tried to contacted me by phone the day they closed the account - my cell phone; yet I didn't get any message from them - which MBNA later said that they called, but hang up without leaving any message). When I contacted MBNA, I was put to their credit analyst department and spoke with the senior analyst, Michael Lock. Michael Lock informed me that MBNA did not like the pattern of my usage and chose to terminate my accounts without any warnings. He was referring to the facts that I have been using BillPay to pay my other credit cards, then paid off the MBNA balances for the past eight months (the balances are around ten thousands each month). When I asked Michael Lock direcly(yes or no question) that did I possess any risks to MBNA if I had a high balance, but have been paid them off every time, he reluctantly said no (My accounts with MBNA are over eight years, and I have never been late - or carry a balance). I then rephrase his analysis that my accounts were closed, and I was discriminated against, because I had high balance and paid them off - and they don't like that - he became upset and said that I took it too personally (maybe the word discrimination took too much weight) and my accounts are to remain closed. He also asked that I do not call back again (I called twice - the first time to ask for my accounts to be reopen).

What can I do? Can MBNA do that? Are there any wrong doing on MBNA part? Any advises are appreciated. Thank you.

---
Basically the OP is trying to deprive MBNA of the interest on their money. So they shut his account down, and now he's crying foul.
---

alert mods    

Do a search, this was addressed a little while ago.

Took less than a minute

alert mods    

Unfortunately, most credit card companies state on their Terms of Services that they can colse your account if it suits them. Nothing you can do there; you cannot force them to have a business relationship with you.
Though it is correct that they might have literally discriminated against you, there is no law that prohibits discrimination against people with particular spending patterns. In fact, most companies do exactly that. Discrimination laws only apply to things that would make you a protected group: race, color, religion, gender, etc.

I guess this is one of those cases where being nice and humble would have worked better. The CSR most likely wrote comments about your conversation, including the fact that he asked you not to call again. though it hurts, I think it is time to move on.

alert mods    

Hickup.

alert mods    

Thank you for your replies.

alert mods    

This scares me. I've started using Bill Pay on my Fidelity MBNA card to pay about $1000/month of other credit cards, as well as maybe $2000/month of purchases. Since I'm a FWer, I pay the balance on time every month. Does this mean that I'm at risk of having my account closed, too?

alert mods    

bluechalk said:This scares me. I've started using Bill Pay on my Fidelity MBNA card to pay about $1000/month of other credit cards, as well as maybe $2000/month of purchases. Since I'm a FWer, I pay the balance on time every month. Does this mean that I'm at risk of having my account closed, too?

Same here except I don't make any purchases on the cards. Maybe it's time to start charging my Wendys lunch every now and then so I don't lose the sweet Billpay float.

alert mods    

Call back again and ask that for one account to be reopened

alert mods    

I really dont care for MBNA either, Im on track to get out of cc debt, but have a long way to go, I have always carried an almost maxed limit, I had 9.99% fixed intrest, they sent me a letter saying my rate was going to 19.99% if I used my card again, so its now cut up. I called a CSR and asked why this was done-they said I had a high balance-I have had this card for over 5 years, was told by CSR that I have never missed a payment, never sent a low payment, nothing showing bad on my account but because of my balance they needed to raise my rate to 10% and there was nothing he could do.

alert mods    

A couple of questions OP:

1) Were you paying off your balances each month in whole or in part with balance transfers from other credit cards?

2) What percentage of your MBNA credit lines were you hitting when you were running those $10K/mo bill pays thru?

3) Would you characterize the income you disclosed to MBNA when you applied for your cards being sufficient to suggest that $10K/mo of credit card payments was reasonable?

Hoping to learn something about what MBNA was triggering off from your responses.

Thanks

alert mods    

demingy said:Do a search, this was addressed a little while ago.

Took less than a minute
This is not the scenario at all. In the linked post, the OP was running balance transfers through his account and amassing credit balances, then requesting refunds. Here, all the OP is doing is using the billpay feature. I'm curious to find out more as well. I routinely run between five and ten thousand dollars through MBNA billpay each month, paying the balance in full. I don't use this card for any purchases at all. I guess I can count on losing this account soon based on what I'm hearing here.

alert mods    

Let's turn this around.

you obviously are not a profitable customer, mbna cannot tell you this str8 up. You expect them to continue losing profit which in turn will cost other customers more money. And they cut you loose.

As a finance person i can tell you this goes on all the time. In big business, folks will fire other companies because they end up not making profit from you.

It may seem unfair, and i agree you should complain. But companies don't stay in business by holding on to loss leaders... thats a fact.

alert mods    

In addition to the comments above - they issued the card and they took it back for reasons that was documented and obviously legally valid. Having that card is not your right, so the best you can do is plead your case to another rep and it it is a no go - then move on and count it as a lesson learned. It is not as if you can sue them (ohh, sorry yes you can do that here in America!).

alert mods    

dweick said:A couple of questions OP:

1) Were you paying off your balances each month in whole or in part with balance transfers from other credit cards?

2) What percentage of your MBNA credit lines were you hitting when you were running those $10K/mo bill pays thru?

3) Would you characterize the income you disclosed to MBNA when you applied for your cards being sufficient to suggest that $10K/mo of credit card payments was reasonable?

Hoping to learn something about what MBNA was triggering off from your responses.

Thanks



I paid my balances off in whole directly from my checking account. My total credit line from the two MBNA cards were 60000.00 (after 8 years of perfect usages --- no late payment, no balance carried). I would think that the income I disclosed to MBNA were reasonable to carry a $10K/month, but I think they don't really care about my income as the cards are closed, not adjusted. It's obvious that the reason they cancelled the accounts were that they weren't profitable. I am just not happy with the approach that they took. Maybe it's a hint at their current financial position....hmmm

alert mods    

I had a similiar termination with MBNA.
I had 2 cards with them, one $35000 and one $22000.
I do the convinient check to get their money work for me in CDs and paid off when the promotion expires, they then canceled my account without notice.
I'd called to asked during a weekend, they told me to call back on weekdays, but I dont care to call back.

alert mods    

You lost $60k in credit? Ouch!

alert mods    

jlgrandam said:You lost $60k in credit? Ouch!

60K in credit is really not that much for some FWers. If it were me Id be crying too.

Edited to add : Thanks for all the info & the warning OP

alert mods    

Thanks for posting OP.

BlkSnday, thanks for your experience too. If you could provide more details (when they closed your accounts, whether you made any purchasers, etc.). that would be helpful too.

Any other information any of you could provide on similar situations would be most helpful. This is certainly a worrisome trend, effecting many FW readers, and any info on what's caused it thus far would be appreciated by many.

alert mods    

vrb747 said:jlgrandam said:You lost $60k in credit? Ouch!

60K in credit is really not that much for some FWers. If it were me Id be crying too.

Edited to add : Thanks for all the info & the warning OP
I have observed that this is true. Although 60K in credit sounds like a lot to me, I have recognized that there are a lot of people out there (in here) for whom what I consider to be kind of a money saving hobby is a VERY serious business. There is not a day that goes by that I don't read about someone with 10's of thousands (and more) monthly tied up in some kind of (jeez, I can't say scheme - OK, venture). Although it doesn't seem like the OP was doing anything exploitive here, as has been posted, they've got every right to not do business with you for whatever reason they want except for race, creed, color or national origin. I doubt if any of those reasons came into play.

 Close

Sign Me In
Nickname: 
Password: 
Remember My Login Information:

Forget your login information?

Not Already A Member?
Sign Up Now!



Disclaimer: By providing links to other sites, FatWallet.com does not guarantee, approve or endorse the information or products available at these sites, nor does a link indicate any association with or endorsement by the linked site to FatWallet.com.


  • © 1999-2009
  • Message Board Statistics RSS Feed Information
Sign up for free today, because you don't want to miss out on any more cash back than you already have! There are currently 1,091,809 people just like you registered to earn Cash Back From FatWallet. Be the next! Sign up to join the discussion & earn Cash Back from FatWallet:
close