GCF Bank Cybersaver 4.47 APY guaranteed for 90 days $100 minimum Afterwards: 2.52% for <25k, 3.96 for <100k, 4.06 for 100k+
Removed from main thread QS. Its a promo rate. (like Everbank, rule #5 for you lawyer types).
ThursdaysChild
Missed.
posted: Feb. 20, 2008 @ 7:56p
The Granddaughter thread (for local or restricted liquid accounts) was archived. Should we start it again in hopes that this will cut down on the number of posts of local deals in the nationally available Daughter thread?
sfchris
Cranky Member
posted: Feb. 20, 2008 @ 11:31p
ThursdaysChild said: The Granddaughter thread (for local or restricted liquid accounts) was archived. Should we start it again in hopes that this will cut down on the number of posts of local deals in the nationally available Daughter thread?
You can try, but it hasn't been well maintained. I tend to use Bankdeals blog for local accounts... he does a nice job of tagging them by state. Just click your state name and read through the latest deals he's posted.
mhesidence
Dismembered Member
posted: Feb. 21, 2008 @ 2:19p
Century Bank Direct - 4.54% (min $100) ACH originate: NO, ACH target: Yes, checks: NO, debit card: NO, postpaid mail: Yes.
Not available in 7 states (Texas, New York, New Jersey, Florida, California, Illinois and Arizona).
Does this rule:
Please only accounts that are open to the general public (or have low barriers to membership, say a $50 membership fee) of the United States without having to go to a branch.
Ban it from the QS?
mhesidence
Dismembered Member
posted: Mar. 3, 2008 @ 7:09p
Argyll said: On the daughter thread someone posted incorrect info about Provident.
I posted the correct info on the APY and rate. So why do I get negatives?
In light of the APR/APY/interest rate confusion displayed in the master thread's recent discussions, I would like to reiterate what the interest rate and APY are and again point out that APR has no place in discussions of deposit accounts.
According to www.helpwithmybank.gov: Annual percentage rate (APR): The cost of credit on a yearly basis, expressed as a percentage.
Annual percentage yield (APY): A percentage rate reflecting the total amount of interest paid on a deposit account based on the interest rate and the frequency of compounding for a 365-day year.
roughly speaking, interest rate: APR for loans :: interest rate: APY for deposit accounts
According to bankrate.com, APR means: "A yearly rate of interest that includes fees and costs paid to acquire the loan...The rate is calculated in a standard way, taking the average compound interest rate over the term of the loan, so borrowers can compare loans. In mortgages, it is the interest rate of a mortgage when taking into account the interest, mortgage insurance, and certain closing costs including points paid at closing."
I fixed my WAMU addition to the master thread's QS, where someone took it upon himself to incorrectly change the APY to the interest rate.
zjts
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 9, 2008 @ 12:37p
mhesidence said: GCF Bank Cybersaver 4.47 APY guaranteed for 90 days $100 minimum Afterwards: 2.52% for <25k, 3.96 for <100k, 4.06 for 100k+
Removed from main thread QS. Its a promo rate. (like Everbank, rule #5 for you lawyer types).
Has anyone funded the Cybersaver promo account with a credit card? Was it a purchase & not a cash advance? What was the max allowed?
sfchris
Cranky Member
posted: Mar. 25, 2008 @ 4:18p
I added a "Links" section to the summary to keep the top of the thread from being overloaded with links.
sfchris
Cranky Member
posted: Mar. 25, 2008 @ 4:28p
sfchris said: I added a "Links" section to the summary to keep the top of the thread from being overloaded with links.
Hey mhesidence, I sent you a PM... please see the LINKS section.. your link is there along with the others.
mhesidence
Dismembered Member
posted: Mar. 25, 2008 @ 4:33p
sfchris said: sfchris said: I added a "Links" section to the summary to keep the top of the thread from being overloaded with links.
Hey mhesidence, I sent you a PM... please see the LINKS section.. your link is there along with the others.
Hey, sfchris I can't send you a PM because your PM is turned off.
sfchris
Cranky Member
posted: Mar. 25, 2008 @ 4:35p
mhesidence said: sfchris said: sfchris said: I added a "Links" section to the summary to keep the top of the thread from being overloaded with links.
Hey mhesidence, I sent you a PM... please see the LINKS section.. your link is there along with the others.
Hey, sfchris I can't send you a PM because your PM is turned off.
That's true. Let's discuss this publically anyway. You keep reverting my change to put all the LINKS in thier own section. Why are you doing that? Do you really want a bunch of links at the top of the summary?
mhesidence
Dismembered Member
posted: Mar. 25, 2008 @ 4:37p
sfchris said: mhesidence said: sfchris said: sfchris said: I added a "Links" section to the summary to keep the top of the thread from being overloaded with links.
Hey mhesidence, I sent you a PM... please see the LINKS section.. your link is there along with the others.
Hey, sfchris I can't send you a PM because your PM is turned off.
That's true. Let's discuss this publically anyway. You keep reverting my change to put all the LINKS in thier own section. Why are you doing that? Do you really want a bunch of links at the top of the summary?
You keep reverting my changes that have important links at the top of the QS.
sfchris
Cranky Member
posted: Mar. 25, 2008 @ 4:41p
mhesidence said:
You keep reverting my changes that have important links at the top of the QS.
So you want links at the top of the Quick summary? I think it makes it harder to read.
Folks, here is was my edit in case it is reverted by the time you read this:
Here is a copy of the list that is unverified by me and is changeable by anyone. Please follow the rules. Please keep the entries short and to the point. Additional information can be found in each bank thread.
REWARDS CHECKING ACCOUNTS: None. (See links section at bottom for additional Rewards Checking accounts)
OTHER ACCOUNTS:
Provident Direct 4.50% APY No minimum No fees. ACH: Yes. ATM: Yes. Checks: No. Funding Account will be linked for ACH in/out "The ability to add additional accounts was to be released in the beginning of April 2008 but is now delayed" (c) Provident in Yodlee select: Provident Bank Of Maryland No credit report pull Fatwallet discussion
Flagstar Express 3.90% APY No Minimum Daily Balance Required $1.00 to open ACH originate: YES, ACH target: YES, checks: YES, debit card: YES ACH limit of $5,000 per month according to DVDBob or $25,000 per month according to goodlife; I couldn't find either figure on the Flagstar site Fatwallet discussion
E*Trade Complete Savings 3.45% APY No Minimum Daily Balance Required. $1.00 to open. ACH originate: YES, next day, ACH target: YES, checks: NO, debit card: NO Fatwallet discussion
UFB Direct Absolute Savings Account 3.35% APY $1+ ACH originate: NO, ACH target: YES, checks: NO, debit card: YES The old High Yield account can be exchanged for this new account. You keep the old old account number, ATM card etc. The bank mail works for this. Warning: UFB Direct funds may be placed at Countrywide Bank and combined with your Countrywide Bank accounts for FDIC insurance purposes. Fatwallet discussion
Sigh. I'm not going to participate in a revert war, but I think the links at the top look cluttered and it will only get worse.
RS4Rings
Back in Rehab
posted: Mar. 26, 2008 @ 8:55a
mhesidence said: Added
Beverly National Bank e-Success Savings Account 4.00% APY $5000 to open, $5000 to avoid fee. Good luck getting that account opened. I did the application yesterday and got denied, same thing today. So I just called and was told they pull through Chex Systems and if you opened any new account in last year it denies you. She told me they are working on fixing it so that they can over ride and open it manual for you.
sfchris
Cranky Member
posted: Mar. 26, 2008 @ 1:00p
Just updated a bunch of rates... posting here to preserve:
Century Bank Direct Money Market 3.82% APY $1000 minimum to open (no minimum balance) ACH originate: NO, ACH target: YES (3 per month), checks: YES, debit card: YES
Flagstar Express 3.65% APY No Minimum Daily Balance Required $1.00 to open ACH originate: YES, ACH target: YES, checks: YES, debit card: YES ACH limit of $5,000 per month according to DVDBob or $25,000 per month according to goodlife; I couldn't find either figure on the Flagstar site Fatwallet discussion
I liked it when you had the minimum, no fee accounts numbered. This was an important feature. Perhaps you could have two lists -- the no minimum, no fee accounts, and the others.
(One year in which no withdrawals or deposits, other than credited dividends were made to the account.)
Manually Paid Checks and ACH Items..............(effective5/1/08)$29
ThursdaysChild
Missed.
posted: Apr. 11, 2008 @ 4:34p
Katoo said: I see in the fee schedule for Alliant. Under Account Basics:
Manually Paid Checks and ACH Items..............(effective 5/1/08)$29I'm not sure this is the right thread (I'll also post in the Alliant thread) -- here's the answer to my email asking what "manually paid" things are:
"When an item does not post electronically and we have to manually process the item is when members would be subject to manually processing fee.
Some examples of situations where a check or an ACH item is manually paid are as follows: when an ACH item is keyed in wrong or set up improperly with either wrong account number or share, when the MICR line (the printed numbers on the bottom of a check) cannot be read electronically, and when a check is called in verbally and a wrong account number is provided."
craig10x
Senior Member - 5K
posted: Apr. 12, 2008 @ 4:50p
i hope katoo doesn't think this means if he writes a check or make an ach in or out transfer he is going to get charged $29...because YOU DON'T......it is referring to what Thursdays Child is talking about....
mhesidence
Dismembered Member
posted: Apr. 23, 2008 @ 9:12p
sfchris said: Sigh. I'm not going to participate in a revert war, but I think the links at the top look cluttered and it will only get worse.
Cute sabotoge of the link you don't like in the QS. I fixed it.
I don't think it is to cluttered to add links to the quick summary of thread that are so closely related to this thread. That is what the quick summary is for, sharing important information.
I did however update the QS to make the links a little less obtrusive. If anyone would like to discuss the issue, please send me a PM.
sfchris
Cranky Member
posted: Apr. 24, 2008 @ 4:17a
jray225 said: I don't think it is to cluttered to add links to the quick summary of thread that are so closely related to this thread. That is what the quick summary is for, sharing important information.
I did however update the QS to make the links a little less obtrusive. If anyone would like to discuss the issue, please send me a PM.
I'm ok with the links, but I think it would be better to put them at the bottom of the QS so we don't have to scroll through them each time we load the rate list. Eventually the list of links could get quite long.
jray225 (Staff)
Moderator
posted: Apr. 24, 2008 @ 11:14p
sfchris said: jray225 said: I don't think it is to cluttered to add links to the quick summary of thread that are so closely related to this thread. That is what the quick summary is for, sharing important information.
I did however update the QS to make the links a little less obtrusive. If anyone would like to discuss the issue, please send me a PM.
I'm ok with the links, but I think it would be better to put them at the bottom of the QS so we don't have to scroll through them each time we load the rate list. Eventually the list of links could get quite long.
If the links get out of hand, then we deal with it, but for now I think the best solution is what it is at now.
glxpass
Senior Member - 5K
posted: Apr. 24, 2008 @ 11:25p
Fixed the text in the Reward Checking account link, and then went back and corrected the spelling of "formatted."
Now if sloppy1 would just stop his inappropriate "negging" of posts, I'd appreciate it. The point of the new liquid accounts thread is that discussion *is* allowed. If one wants to make one's rate post stand out amidst discussion posts, it's easy enough to put the rate information in boldface, for example.
ETA: A thought, sloppy1. Why not consult with mhesidence on what he would consider inappropriate posts to his thread before making that determination for yourself? Just an idea.
RS4Rings
Back in Rehab
posted: Apr. 25, 2008 @ 3:13p
sfchris said:
Something doesn't smell right. I don't even recognize more than 3 of those names. Oh crap now you going to say vote was rigged? Come on those are just people who follow the rate threads but don't post
Good for you. Did you see them voting this this thread? Maybe 3-4 of them. I haven't seen the others here.
You don't live in Florida do you?
Okay, I admit it. I made up 30+ names and have been posting day and night for years so I could make them all seem real.
RS4Rings
Back in Rehab
posted: Apr. 25, 2008 @ 3:19p
sfchris said:
Good for you. Did you see them voting this this thread? Maybe 3-4 of them. I haven't seen the others here. Because the vote in this thread was meaningless, Mod made it clear on that one what was at stake and people took it more serious
sfchris
Cranky Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2008 @ 4:04p
See you later, scott. It has been fun joking around with you, at least. This was a good thread and I am sorry to see it go.
RS4Rings
Back in Rehab
posted: Apr. 25, 2008 @ 5:28p
Chris no reason we can't try and make it a valuable thread, Most of us that have worked on these threads don't really even need them, We know the best rates. This thread is more to help others find the best accounts for their money. Accounts are not one size fits all and just about the best rates, sometimes people might have a question and I'm happy to help them. Hopefully we can make this thread one of the top rate/info sites on the web. Plus in our sucky rate environment we might as well have some fun while doing it
sfchris
Cranky Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2008 @ 5:32p
I already outlined why the original saving rate thread is preferable earlier in this discussion thread... and why I won't be making much use of the new thread, and why probably readership is going to drop off... namely:
1) mhesidence's thread summary is nearly impossible to edit properly 2) good rates are mixed in with ones with restrictions 3) the discussion part of the thread is a hopeless jumble of cruft and therefore 4) it is difficult to track rates over time to figure out which accounts are volatile
These problems are all solved in the original thread and there was absolutely no reason to move to a new model.
mhesidence
Dismembered Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2008 @ 8:15p
sfchris said: 2) good rates are mixed in with ones with restrictions
The thread has one rule "1) Only nationally available liquid accounts "
What do you mean by restrictions?
Also stop messing with the QS
1) The moderator put a link to the mother thread in the QS already. If you don't like the location talk to him. 2) The first post also has link the to the mother thread. 3) I don't trust you not to "accidently" break more links out of spite.
glxpass
Senior Member - 5K
posted: Apr. 26, 2008 @ 1:31p
Since sfchris has inappropriately and unnecessarily linked to the original liquid accounts thread four times in the new sticky thread's Quick Summary, I alerted the moderator with the below message. All thread references are to the new sticky liquid accounts thread.
To the moderators:
Regrettably, FWF poster sfchris has been sabotaging the Quick Summary of this thread, the new sticky liquid accounts thread, repeatedly. He has been asked by the thread's author, mhesidence, to refrain from linking to the now-unstickied liquid accounts thread, and mhesidence has pointed out to him that the thread is linked in the OP of this thread. Nonetheless, sfchris has inserted the link in the Quick Summary four times as of now, all of which have been reverted.
sfchris is either unwilling or unable to respect the wishes of the author of this thread. Since sfchris's private messaging is turned off, there is no way to initiate contact with him. I recommend therefore:
1. Please warn sfchris not to sabotage or abuse this thread, and to respect the wishes of its author. It's unfortunate that a moderator must provide this warning, but apparently necessary.
2. If sfchris doesn't heed this warning, please take sterner action, such as removing his ability to post to this thread.
FWIW, I believe the FWF community should be mostly self-policing, and that it shouldn't be necessary to call upon a moderator to resolve a problem. Nonetheless, there are cases when a FWF member insists on repeatedly sabotaging or abusing a thread, and this is one of them.
Thanks for your attention to this matter.
sfchris, I won't try to analyze your motives for your behavior, including the numerous posts you made yesterday to this discussion thread that involved name-calling and totally inappropriate language, which, thankfully, the moderator removed. Tellingly, you never apologized for your multiple outbursts. My only request is that you stop sabotaging the new sticky liquid accounts thread. The now-unstickied liquid accounts thread is unlocked, and you can post to that thread if you dislike the new sticky thread. Thank you.
Here's a suggestion to Cheap and mhesidence: please rename "The Daughter of the Mother" to "v2" and "The Son..." to "v3" if they indeed derive or supersede each other or "v2A" and "v2B" respectively if they don't.
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