Credit Card Issuer FAQ

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I think the following information for all the major issuers would be useful.

Issuer:
Convert to another card type:
Combine Credit Lines:
Reallocate Credit Lines:
Max Number of cards:
BT Checks:
BT to checking account: Ys
Period between CLI:
To get a human on the phone:
Disscution threads:

I don't know all the information for all these issuers, but I'll update the Quick Summary if people post what they do know.



this could be an excellent resource, thx OP. I posted what I know in the Quick Summary - that way others can update with complete info

Slight problem is that a lot of these criteria are YMMV...for example someone can have a lot more than 3 Citi cards (I do), though others may be declined for that many. Sometimes CIti allows reallocation, sometimes they dont (based on competence/laziness of CSR).


Thanks OP for your efforts. I am wondering if anyone knows how often you can request a CLI online for AMEX. I've heard stories that people got 2 CLIs on the same day. I've also heard that a few days after the bill closes is the best time to request a CLI, and we can do it every month. It seems like AMEX doesn't really have a set time frame in between CLIs. What are your experiences?


This is a great idea!

I hadn't thought about the fact that there might be a problem reallocating credit between a Visa and MasterCard from the same issuer. Just realized that's what I'm trying to do with 2 of my Citi cards -- I hope it goes through. When I spoke to a CSR the other day he seemed to be having some trouble but told me to call back in a few days to make sure it was processed. I'll update this to let you know how it turns out.


Thanks for the info on Citi. I have three cards and my wife has one, I guess I am maxed out on my side, I had consdered applying for a fourth, glad I didn't now.


clearanceman said: Thanks for the info on Citi. I have three cards and my wife has one, I guess I am maxed out on my side, I had consdered applying for a fourth, glad I didn't now.see my post, I have quite a few Citi cards (7 i believe) so there is no hard and fast 3 card rule for everyone


thanks for the post.
i've got 3 citi cards and have had zero luck in combining cl's.


I was able to consolidate two Citi Diamond Preferred cards; however, they wouldn't allow me to consolidate or reallocate credit between a Diamond and Professional card.


This is my experience.
Original CL : $4000.00
CL after request increase online at October/05 : $5500.00
today's CL after request after reading your posting (Nov/05): $6700.00

So, I think you are right, AMEX doesn;t have a time frame in between CLIs.

moledude said: Thanks OP for your efforts. I am wondering if anyone knows how often you can request a CLI online for AMEX. I've heard stories that people got 2 CLIs on the same day. I've also heard that a few days after the bill closes is the best time to request a CLI, and we can do it every month. It seems like AMEX doesn't really have a set time frame in between CLIs. What are your experiences?


uguud said: I was able to consolidate two Citi Diamond Preferred cards; however, they wouldn't allow me to consolidate or reallocate credit between a Diamond and Professional card.thats right a prof card is considered a biz card, and citi will not combine personal CLs with biz Cls


Also worth noting that in some cases, Citi will throw in the professional card inquiry free as an add on to the Citi card you originally applied for (Diamond Rewards, Dividend, etc) when you call to check status or during activation.


I was able to BT electronically to checking account with Chase (Chase Perfectcard) in March 2005


Sorry, I'm kind of a finance newbie, but...

If an issuer doesn't allow BT to checking account, but offers BT checks, does that mean you CAN'T write a BT check to yourself and deposit it into your checking?


jrtang said: If an issuer doesn't allow BT to checking account, but offers BT checks, does that mean you CAN'T write a BT check to yourself and deposit it into your checking?
Depends on the issuer. Bottom line: ask before you do it to avoid having a BT count as a cash advance. Some issuers will count any check written to yourself as a cash advance. (You can usually get around this by writing the check out to the name of the bank you are depositing in, and depositing directly into your own account.)


Added most of the Discover data points (still missing a few) and cleaned up the Quick Summary.


FYI, about discover.

I have two discover cards, first is Platnium with 15K CL and 6K 0% for life balance on it. The second is the Restruant card. Its been over 6 months since my last CLI on the restruant card, so I called and asked for CLI. Tina (the CSR) asked how much? I said whatever I can get. She put in 15K and "the system" returned 14K. She quickly explained I wasn't denied a 15K limit, just I'd have to transfer to a credit analyst (read hard inquery). I think 15K is the most you can get without a hard inquery. So I went from 11K to 14K, no hard. Also asked for lower purchase rate currently 16.74%. Had to transfered to another departement and they asked what my other cards had. I said besides my 0% intro rates 12% (Just made up the 12%, I have a Motely fool low rate card at 6%, but I'm sure the can't match that). They offered 15.99% or 0% for 6 months. Took the 0% of course.

Of course everyone offered to low rate BT. 7.9% yeah right. I probably could have done better on the BT rate but didn't bother.


Another question about BT checks. If married and each person has individual bank accounts, can you write a BT check to spouse and bypass cash advance fees (independent of CC issuer)?


golf247 said: Another question about BT checks. If married and each person has individual bank accounts, can you write a BT check to spouse and bypass cash advance fees (independent of CC issuer)?

good tactic
anyone done this?


absolut812003 said: golf247 said: Another question about BT checks. If married and each person has individual bank accounts, can you write a BT check to spouse and bypass cash advance fees (independent of CC issuer)?

good tactic
anyone done this?


I read on one of there thread (don't recall where) you can make the check out to your bank (assuming its not the same bank that issued your credit card). I've never tried it, but it seems like it should work. Has anyone done that?


excellent thread.

The quick summary in the locked citicardman's thread says there is no limit for the number of citi cards.

One more thing I'd be interested in seeing is whether the issuers report to the credit bureaus on a regular basis even if there was no activity / no statement generated.

And to reply to moledude and aFewGoodMan -- AMEX does have a timeline between credit increases. It's between 1 and 2 months, until you reach some top number (from personal experience). And I agree on on the best time to request CLI -- after you receive a statement.


MBNA INFO.... the number listed in the STICKY faq is a computer...
Here is the last number I called. 1 800 297 2326 All the mbna customer service numbers seemed to be on the same phone system. Took me mistyping my zip code to get a real person.

Here is the number you would call if you wanted to get financial stuff done, like up your credit line.
1 877 494 7694.

MBNA said their time between credit increases is around 6 months.


For BoA , I just call the number on the back of my card and press 0 and I got a CSR.


mhesidence said: absolut812003 said: golf247 said: Another question about BT checks. If married and each person has individual bank accounts, can you write a BT check to spouse and bypass cash advance fees (independent of CC issuer)?

good tactic
anyone done this?


I read on one of there thread (don't recall where) you can make the check out to your bank (assuming its not the same bank that issued your credit card). I've never tried it, but it seems like it should work. Has anyone done that?


Ya, Citi does that.
And chase offer to BT to my checking account like early this year, but I decline due to the interest rate of not 0 % .


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From personal experience:

HSBC allows BT directly to a checking account (of course, as long as it's not an HSBC Bank account).
CHASE also allows BT directly to a checking account, but only some accounts are eligible for that. For example, newly opened accounts don't qualify, since they want to see first that you've been paying your bill on time for a few cycles.


Regarding writing a check to yourself:

I did BofA no-fee 0% BT several times. I deposited the checks to my BofA checking account four times, send to Scottrade to fund my ROTH, and paid property tax. None of those counted as cash advance.

The BT checks were sent to me in a promo letters. The letters specifically say:
"Use this check to eliminate other high-rate balances, like loans and credit card payments. Or use them like your personal check. You can also get cash by depositing them into your bank account. Best of all, there are no balance transfer fees or check fees with this offer!"

Never use the option to do BT online, although the letters say it can be done @ EasyBT dot com.


Cap 1 allows you to combine credit lines (ask to speak to the credit manager).


chase usually deducts $500 when you combine consolidate credit cards.


It's because they didn't close a card with a $0 credit line, minimum is $500. I believe it is wrong and next time should be pursued via higher level CSR.


It would be nice if this thread were expanded to include information about how much you can make off each card's "special offers" over the course of a year. I have some cards I've never gotten a special offer from, while others have been very productive. This thread seems to be the logical place for such info.


workingonit said: It would be nice if this thread were expanded to include information about how much you can make off each card's "special offers" over the course of a year. I have some cards I've never gotten a special offer from, while others have been very productive. This thread seems to be the logical place for such info.

What do you mean by special offer?

This thread isn't really for individual cards, so I don't think it fits in this thread.


s0meguy said: I was able to BT electronically to checking account with Chase (Chase Perfectcard) in March 2005

I tried to last night and was told card had to be open for 90 days before they would do it, otherwise have to use checks.

PITA point - I received new cards with great Balance Transfer option, but no checks to be able to implement. I had to call and request them.


tbuccelli said: s0meguy said: I was able to BT electronically to checking account with Chase (Chase Perfectcard) in March 2005

I tried to last night and was told card had to be open for 90 days before they would do it, otherwise have to use checks.

PITA point - I received new cards with great Balance Transfer option, but no checks to be able to implement. I had to call and request them.


Try calling again, some CSR don't know how to ACH to a bank account.

I done it before, took like 4 tries though.


What does the "BT to checking refer" to? I ask because I have been successful writing out Bank of Amreica checks to myself and depositing them into my checking account. The same is true with my Chase cards. I have also called and had a Chase CSR BT transfer straight to my checking account, once was an electronic transfer and the other they mailed the check to my credit union. I would think these instances would mean that "BT to checking" should be YES for both of these companies.


YMMV but I have two Chase cards, a Student MC and a Cash Plus (<--I think) VISA and I have been able to reallocate my credit limit from the MC to the VISA twice now, once in February and again in April. Don't know if this had anything to do with it but the Visa is a new card (less than 4 months old) and 0%. My MC is probably over 3 years old.


Excellent thread.
Has OP updated his info?


duna said: Excellent thread.
Has OP updated his info?


Nope. Info in quick summary where anyone can update.


byex0039 said: What does the "BT to checking refer" to? I ask because I have been successful writing out Bank of Amreica checks to myself and depositing them into my checking account. The same is true with my Chase cards. I have also called and had a Chase CSR BT transfer straight to my checking account, once was an electronic transfer and the other they mailed the check to my credit union. I would think these instances would mean that "BT to checking" should be YES for both of these companies.

BT to checking refers to the credit card company electronicly transfering money directly to your checking account and thus avoiding the sometimes lengthly holding periods.

YMMV with Chase allowing BT to checking.


Anyone have any luck recently w/ chase BT'ing to checking accts?


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