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ZenNUTS
- Broke Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 1:04a
From casual reading of the responses in the misc.taxes.moderated group. It appears that if a hobby generate income then it's a no brainer that expense can be deducted. I say it's worthwhile for him to do more detailed research on this topic. Depending on the potential payoff, it may be worthwhile to consult a local professional.
One thing *seems* certain. If this hobby/business keep showing a loss year after year then it will not pass the "smell" test. Yes, that's actually a term the IRS uses. |
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didYOUsearch
- Cranky Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 1:18a
lostdude said:One thing *seems* certain. If this hobby/business keep showing a loss year after year then it will not pass the "smell" test. Yes, that's actually a term the IRS uses.I use the same test on gf's |
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plloopp
- Senior Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 1:20a
Everyone is assuming he is one of the amateur racers. I don't think he explicitly said that. Even amateurs need to buy auto parts and supplies, rent tools, get professional service, rent racetracks, etc. Organizing charitable events and fundraising can also be a legitimate business. |
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wdsaltman95
- Cranky Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 7:55a
LH2004 said:wdsaltman95 said:Since you're admitting that this is a hobby and that you are not receving income from it, then you should not be deducting any items you mention in your previous post.Of course, it's possible for a taxpayer to think of as a hobby an activity that, for tax purposes, is a business -- if, maybe, you actually do something because you enjoy it, but it has objective indicia of a profit motive, like substantial, consistent profits. But it's pretty unlikely.
I certainly agree with everyone that there may be an opportunity to generate income from his "hobby" by many different means...I simply posted based on what he posted, that "Well, really it's a hobby. I certainly don't make money from it..." He could have meant a million different things, but I just answered based on the information provided. Obviously more facts are warranted to give additional advice. However, he apparently doesn't care about anyone's thoughts on that subject matter anwyay...just tell him what stupid software to use. |
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Athenaa21
- Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 9:36a
I have a question regarding Donations. I already looked up IRS.gov, and it didn't make much sense to me (forgive me, this is my second year itemizing).
I wanted to know a little about donations. (In goods - not cash donations).
I am single, no kids, and will be deducting- Property tax, Mtg Interest, + deductions from my recent refi this year. I have also donated and received the verification slips for around 3k (at their value, after depriciating any used goods wear/tear) in household, and purchased new donatated goods for Katrina, Salvation Army, and Non-profit Church Foster Home.
I wanted to know, how this works.
I may be total wrong here - forgive me;
But isn't it a few things (be it mtg interest+ other deductable interest+ goods) has to be > than standard exemption?
Or am I confused? I just want to make sure I donate enough to see the benefit on my taxes. I neither know the standard exemption for single, no kids - (live in MI), nor how the donations help me. I honestly (and I know you guys will rip me one for this - lol - just blindly hand the slips when I get my taxes done, and a spreadsheet of what I donated, condition, value new, value at donation *(depriciated for wear and tear). I don't know if I am getting any benefit out of this or not. I know of other people in need, that I could give the items to directly, but would not see the tax benefit out of, and I struggle with this every year. (like giving a stove to a friends low income family, verses donating to Salvation Army).
I recently had a friend approach me, and she wants to donations as well, but she is married, filling jointly, and I don't know how this works, to explain to her, she needs to have a value of X in donations + (whatever else) to be able to really benefit from the donations, verses the standard deduction. She owns a home, however, due to financial constraints let the house default to the bank. She made 7 payments this year, and her property taxes.
Can anyone explain how I can calculate this out, to know what I need to donate or have combined from all sources to be greater than the standard exemption? |
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dcwilbur
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 9:43a
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Athenaa21
- Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 10:11a
Everyone's Q&A's can be found in that book. But it still isn't clear |
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dcwilbur
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 10:22a
Athenaa21 said:Everyone's Q&A's can be found in that book. But it still isn't clearYou didn't even read it, did you? 
On Page 133, it says your standard deduction is $5,000.
On Page 155, you'll find a chapter that begins with:
This chapter explains how to claim a deduction for your charitable contributions. It discusses:
Organizations that are qualified to receive deductible charitable contributions,
The types of contributions you can deduct,
How much you can deduct,
What records to keep, and
How to report your charitable contributions.
A charitable contribution is a donation or gift to, or for the use of, a qualified organization. It is voluntary and is made without getting, or expecting to get, anything of equal value...
What else did you want to know? |
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asdfzxcv1999
- New Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 10:32a
I've got a question on CA state refund.
Two years ago I got a state refund check back and I ended paying state tax on that refund amount last year. And this year I probably gonna have to pay state tax again on last years state refund check. What gives? Why do we have to pay tax on a refund check since it was money the state borrowed from us and kept in bank earning interest for the entire year? This sucks. |
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kost
- New Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 10:33a
ThiftySpender said:ckojali said:blueking said:Wow, amateur racing related business?
Well, really it's a hobby. I certainly don't make money from it but I do fundraisers for diabetes research.
Yuck, one of the age old tax questions that lawyers love -- is it a hobby (not deductable) or a business (is deductable).
hobby-- deductible up to hobby income business-- all businessed-related expenses are deductible |
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kost
- New Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 10:38a
rab75 said:A quick question - this being my first post my apologies if it is elementary. I am paid bi-weekly, and receive a paycheck on the 10th of each month which pays me wages for the trailing two weeks of the previous month. My question is whether my paycheck on 1/10/06, paying me for my earnings 12/15-12/31/05, will be included on my 2005 W-2. The relevance is that i have control over how much of my time I take as pay, and how much I take as vacation (future compensation). I need to stay under 150K on this year earnings for my wife and i to max out our roth IRA contribution, and I happen to be very close to the number right now. I tried looking in multiple places, but haven't found the answer. Anyone out there know how this goes? Thanks
just checked my tax textbook...you will have to pay tax for the last two weeks in december because you earn the money and there is no condition. |
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dcwilbur
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 10:45a
kost said:rab75 said:A quick question - this being my first post my apologies if it is elementary. I am paid bi-weekly, and receive a paycheck on the 10th of each month which pays me wages for the trailing two weeks of the previous month. My question is whether my paycheck on 1/10/06, paying me for my earnings 12/15-12/31/05, will be included on my 2005 W-2. The relevance is that i have control over how much of my time I take as pay, and how much I take as vacation (future compensation). I need to stay under 150K on this year earnings for my wife and i to max out our roth IRA contribution, and I happen to be very close to the number right now. I tried looking in multiple places, but haven't found the answer. Anyone out there know how this goes? Thanksjust checked my tax textbook...you will have to pay tax for the last two weeks in december because you earn the money and there is no condition.Wrong. For most individual taxpayers, the cash method is used. That is, income is reported in the year that it is actually or constructively received. |
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mommyoftwins
- Thrifty Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 10:52a
dcwilbur said:kost said:rab75 said:A quick question - this being my first post my apologies if it is elementary. I am paid bi-weekly, and receive a paycheck on the 10th of each month which pays me wages for the trailing two weeks of the previous month. My question is whether my paycheck on 1/10/06, paying me for my earnings 12/15-12/31/05, will be included on my 2005 W-2. The relevance is that i have control over how much of my time I take as pay, and how much I take as vacation (future compensation). I need to stay under 150K on this year earnings for my wife and i to max out our roth IRA contribution, and I happen to be very close to the number right now. I tried looking in multiple places, but haven't found the answer. Anyone out there know how this goes? Thanksjust checked my tax textbook...you will have to pay tax for the last two weeks in december because you earn the money and there is no condition.Wrong. For most individual taxpayers, the cash method is used. That is, income is reported in the year that it is actually or constructively received.
yup I called DHs HR this morning about this--they confirmed that our paycheck on 1/7/06 (for pay period ending 12/31) will be on 2006 W-2's NOT 2005. I now have to re-adjust my calculations as I didn't know this before--thanks for asking this question! |
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kozman
- New Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 11:13a
I have a question I hope someone can help me with. Over a year ago I purchased a residential lot for 2500 dollars. At that time, the county valued the property at 4300 dollars. This month, I donated the lot to the city land redevelopment office and currently, the county has valued the land at 7100 dollars. Now I know the IRS wants an appraisal of property if it's worth over 5K, so I was wondering if I could use the county tax office property value? If the IRS wants an appraisal of the property can I just produce what the county says the property is worth? I would think the county assessor is just as accurate as some hack RE agent who can do up an apprasial. In fact, I'm sure I could find a RE agent that would appraise it for whatever the person wanted the property to be valued at. I would like to think the IRS would accept another governmental agencies numbers. Does anyone have any input on this. Thanks for any assistance.
By the way, no slam was meant to honest RE agents/appraisers but we all know if you need a certain figure to be at on an appraisal, someone out there will give it to you. That's just one of the many reasons property values are so out of skew. Thanks again!!! |
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Derffie
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 12:40p
asdfzxcv1999 said:I've got a question on CA state refund.
Two years ago I got a state refund check back and I ended paying state tax on that refund amount last year. And this year I probably gonna have to pay state tax again on last years state refund check. What gives? Why do we have to pay tax on a refund check since it was money the state borrowed from us and kept in bank earning interest for the entire year? This sucks.
I can understand your paying federal tax on a state refund.. since you probably deducted that from your federal income.. but the situation you describe isnt clear unless they paid you some interest on your state refund and are taxing you on that... |
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ckojali
- Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 1:06p
Man, people are into the amateur racing thing. What I do is more accurately called 'club racing'. Check out www.bmwccaclubracing.com or www.nasaproracing.com for more details.
There is no prize money for wins but eventually I plan to go semi-pro. I can sell things trackside as an income source though I don't currently. I do receive sponsorship money for displaying graphics on my car but every dime of that goes to the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation (jdrf.org) because my daughter developed type 1 diabetes at 2 years old. I also do eBay auctions from time to time, all told I raised $6000 in 2005 for research.
What I do would absolutely not pass the smell test...I figure I've got 3 or 4 years to make it smell a little better by winning prize money and selling products. |
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plloopp
- Senior Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 3:37p
asdfzxcv1999 said:I've got a question on CA state refund.
Two years ago I got a state refund check back and I ended paying state tax on that refund amount last year. And this year I probably gonna have to pay state tax again on last years state refund check. What gives? Why do we have to pay tax on a refund check since it was money the state borrowed from us and kept in bank earning interest for the entire year? This sucks.
You don't have to pay California income tax on the refund. You should be entering any refund of state taxes shown on your federal return as a subtraction on California Schedule CA on the line labeled "Taxable refunds, credits, offsets of state and local income taxes."
If you failed to do this two years ago, you can still file an amended return. California allows you to go back up to 4 years. (I wouldn't bother, however, if it's only a dollar or two.) In addition, I would advise you to adjust your withholding at work so that you stop getting refunds and you'll never have this problem again.
If you are filing Form 540A , you can claim the adjustment for state tax refunds shown on your federal return directly on Form 540A in the section called "California Income Adjustments" on the line called "State income tax refund" (line 13a on the 2005 version of the form). |
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Doonie
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 5:06p
i have an LLC that lost money last year (its first year) and is going to make money this year. it is a 50/50 partnership for tax purposes as we are both 50% holders (members) in the LLC.
we do not pay ourselves anything from the income of the LLC as it goes back in for further r&d (software company with hardware components). however, we both do demos on site and trade shows. is it possible to claim the mileage deduction on our personal return pertaining to the business even though we dont actually take an of that business income into our own hands? the income im talking about isnt substantial, it should be about 15K this year.
additionally, if we can take the mileage deduction (i keep track of how far the demo is from my house as we dont have an office), is there any other type of deduction we can take?
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ZenNUTS
- Broke Member
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 5:15p
Doonie said:..dditionally, if we can take the mileage deduction (i keep track of how far the demo is from my house as we dont have an office), is there any other type of deduction we can take?
thanksYou have a lot of information that i don't think is pertinet to the issue at hand.
Yes, anyone can deduct "unreimbursed business expense" on their personal return. However, relating to mileage, the location your drive to can not be your regular office location. That is, IRS do not consider your regular daily commute an business expense.
Use the link I provided on the 1st page to search:
Group Google search on mileage
Also check IRS.gov more further information. |
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Doonie
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Dec. 21, 2005 @ 7:39p
lostdude said:Doonie said:..dditionally, if we can take the mileage deduction (i keep track of how far the demo is from my house as we dont have an office), is there any other type of deduction we can take?
thanksYou have a lot of information that i don't think is pertinet to the issue at hand.
Yes, anyone can deduct "unreimbursed business expense" on their personal return. However, relating to mileage, the location your drive to can not be your regular office location. That is, IRS do not consider your regular daily commute an business expense.
Use the link I provided on the 1st page to search:
Group Google search on mileage
Also check IRS.gov more further information.
right, i dont have an office, all the mileage i would want to deduct is going out to a client site.
thats why i mentioned it was the from the house and not the office |
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