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thanks, great post


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Nice Thread ! Wells Fargo slapped a $5.00 fee for ATM use abroad. That really stung !!~!


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teKillah said:Nice Thread ! Wells Fargo slapped a $5.00 fee for ATM use abroad. That really stung !!~!try 13 $5 charges from bofA..ouch!


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pltywng said:A friend recently called MBNA to find out which card does not charge forex fee. The rep told him whichever card he choses he will get to enjoy no forex fee for only a few months since beginning in May, all MBNA card will charge 3% forex fee. So it sounded like existing cards will convert also.

More rumor and hearsay. I'll believe that my MBNA Fidelity card charges a forex fee when I receive written notice of change in T&C. As of a couple months ago, during my last int'l trip, that card added no additional fee and I got 1.5% cash rebate.

I wrote this in the main foreign fee thread, but I'll say it again here: if T&C for the same card vary by user (depending on when you get the card, where you live, credit limit, whatever) then this whole discussion of 'which card is best' is completely pointless! LOL. If my XYZ card does not have the same costs/rewards as your XYZ card, then how can we say if the XYZ card is any good?


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teKillah said:Wells Fargo slapped a $5.00 fee for ATM use abroad.Chase charges $10.


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The longer Capital One waits to announce what FOREX fee they will charge, the more I think it will be more than 1%. But for now, its the best choice at 0% especially if you get an account that also earns points/miles, CashBack, or whatever.


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good thread, but to answer your question saavyness is not a word. Its savvy meaning practical understanding


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nice thread, OP. TY! ^_^

Only wish I had known more info about the differing ranges of foreign currency charges prior to my studies abroad (2 years in the netherlands, 1 in germany). I knew that the percentages varied based upon the card, but made the common mistake of being lazy and not researching the issue (doh!).

Oh well. . . I was young and ignorant then (still am), but I'm learning and am quite happy to have found resources like FW. I shudder to think of where I'd be without some of the stuff that I've learned here (even just recently).

Thanks again, OP.


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I am curious to see what type of experience people have had in redeeming travel rewards thru Chase and Citi. Does anyone know how much availability there is? What is the maximum value of a ticket you can get for free?


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FFGuru said:I am curious to see what type of experience people have had in redeeming travel rewards thru Chase and Citi. Does anyone know how much availability there is? What is the maximum value of a ticket you can get for free?

Chase on there mastercard you can transfer points directly to airlines program of your choice or redem directly from them.

As far as Citi Thank you network is concerned. People on Flyertalk.com have reported having to pay 30-40K points for tickets over Thanks Giving and Xmas when they redem points for free ticket as they were told all free invenotry was sold out but if they agreed to pay more then could still get one.

Just so you know not all Citibank charge 3% for forex fee. It seems all the Citi Mastercard charge 3% but older grandfathered Citi Visa cards only charge 1%. Other people on flyertalk.com have also verified that there old AA Visa cards only charge 1% forex fee.


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MBNA actually only charges a 1% foreign currency fee on any of their American Express cards since this is what AMEX charges MBNA and MBNA doesn't add an additional fee. I have the MBNA rewards card which is part of the worldpoints program and this card charges only 1% foreign currency. In the future they may change it but as of today I still only get charged 1%. So this is a great card and for those who like the worldpoints program it is a far better deal than the 3% charged for the visa and mastercard cards.


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madhorse2 said:And now Citi PremierPass Elite can be referred if your friends have this card, which may be good for those whose credit score is not high. Of course, you can ask whoever are generous here for help, including me .


AyresFan said:I'll second the Citi PremierPass Elite card. It's actually one ThankYou point (roughly equal to 1 cent) on all spending (not just travel) with a bonus ThankYou point on top of that for groceries/gas/drug stores/parking/transit. Flight points get matched with spending points and bonus points (including points from Citi's ThankYou Merchants program--a FatCash-like program--which effectively doubles the Cash Back on that). The flight points earned are in addition to any frequent flier points you may earn. The matching requirement means you earn about 2% back on all purchases. Other features include trip cancellation insurance, price protection, and a largely useless companion ticket program (which most of the time saves you $20 but sometimes can yield bigger savings when prices are high).

I also like Citi's flight redemption program. They have fairly reasonable availability based on what I've heard and my own experience. Last year needed to buy a ticket to Europe that would have cost $900. No airlines had mileage availability, but Citi had a flight for 50k points and on my preferred airline (which I earned miles on).


Hey, I would be interested in a referral for the Citi Premiere Elite Card, what are the prerequisites ( to be qualified ) and what do I need to do to apply under the referral program?

-Fortezza


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I didn't do any referrals for the citi premier pass card.
just went to citipremier.com applied and got approved.

also, I emailed them about waiving the $75 annual fee and they did it.
so thus far I have racked up 30,000 pts good enough for a free trip to anywhere in the USA within a few months. On a trip to California, I racked up the 300 pts for the cost of the ticket, and 4700 additional pts for the mileage back and forth. This was great.

This is the only card I use now. I have ditched my discover and AMEX.

PM me know if you have any questions.

Thanks


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Currently I have the MBNA Worldpoints Visa Signature. It is not the most rewarding card, but I have had it a while, so I continue to use it until my next reward.

I am a bit worried that BofA may change the program and devalue it when they take over. I haven't had terribly good experiences with BofA in the past. I called MBNA and the rep told me that while BofA and MBNA will merge, it sounds like the MBNA management team will handle the credit card side of things, and leave BofA to the banking. He said that Worldpoints has been very successful so he doubts that it will be changed much.....

Has anyone else heard anything else?


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waf was asking why we don't get free miles vs Cash Back on many of our CCs, my standard answer was they charge a high annual fee and you have to be tied to a carrier (Delta etc), hassle redeeming miles etc.
But the starwood card seems to be a combine the best of everything as OP mentioned. it sucks that I didn't have it this year where I stayed at many starwood properties (I was using the costco AMEX with 2% CB card so better than nothing). I guess I have one more CC to add to the wallet...

great post!


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Joe1690 said:MBNA actually only charges a 1% foreign currency fee on any of their American Express cards since this is what AMEX charges MBNA and MBNA doesn't add an additional fee. I have the MBNA rewards card which is part of the worldpoints program and this card charges only 1% foreign currency.Where did you read this ? MBNA CSRs are the source of inaccurate information about their own FOREX fees. AMEX charges its own cardholders 2%, so its suprising to learn that they only charge MBNA 1%.

Many MBNA Worldpoints related CCs were converted via snail mail notification from 1% to 3% in May 2005.


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does anyone know how much washington mutual charges for atm fees? i called them and they said $2.00, but i would like any input from people who actually used it.

also, do the foreign banks charge if you use their atm? for example, i'll take my wamu card to some french atm in paris...on top of the wamu charge, is there anything else? if so, i'm wondering if i should just exchange a lot of money at the airport or here.

thanks.


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bluefoot said:I didn't do any referrals for the citi premier pass card.
just went to <snip> applied and got approved.

Note that the website that you reference (snipped above) is actually an affiliate link which then forwards to Citibank. You may want to delete that (if you weren't aware of that). The real link for Citi PremierPass is here.

For people interested in applying for it, I believe CardOffers.com is offering a $30 bonus on top of the usual sign up bonus. There is no need to get a referral for the PremierPass card, and it is actually one of the easiest Citi cards to get approved for. If you do get referred, there is no additional benefit for the person getting referred.


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Go to the terms and conditions of any of MBNA American Expresscards and it clearly states that it is 1%. You can find these cards at http://www.mbna.com/rewards/myrewards/. This is what the terms and conditions say "Foreign Transactions See ▲ below for explanation"
"▲ American Express (1) converts charges made in foreign currencies to U.S. dollars using a rate selected on the business day prior to the day on which the charges are processed by American Express and (2) applies a 1% commission to the converted amount. See the Credit Card Agreement for details."

In addition, I have one of these cards and have used them in foreign countries and have only ever been charged 1% so this has nothing to do with the customer service representatives. However, the one thing I have noticed is that all new MBNA issued cards now only come with a 20 day grace period verus the 25 day grace period they used to have. This is obviously courtesy of Bank of America so who knows how long the foreign currency fee on these AMEX cards will remain at 1% considering the Citibank American Express cards charged 3% and American Express itself charges 2%.


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