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Here is a dumb question-
I added the SPG card to my AMEX website - how do I link that to the spg.com website?
Any help would be appreciated. CSR's don't seem to know how to do it.

FarleyIsGod said: Here is a dumb question-
I added the SPG card to my AMEX website - how do I link that to the spg.com website?
Any help would be appreciated. CSR's don't seem to know how to do it.
I don't understand the question. The only way you "limk" the AMEX to SPG is by providing your SPG # when you applied for the AMEX, or else a new SPG account was created for you and linked to the CC.

I was thinking the exact same thing...plus there doesn't appear to be any bonus at cardselection anymore.

isles1 said: FarleyIsGod said: Here is a dumb question-
I added the SPG card to my AMEX website - how do I link that to the spg.com website?
Any help would be appreciated. CSR's don't seem to know how to do it.
I don't understand the question. The only way you "limk" the AMEX to SPG is by providing your SPG # when you applied for the AMEX, or else a new SPG account was created for you and linked to the CC.


Hmmm... well then I suppose my question is how do I access the created account (I did not have a previous SPG account). My welcome packet didn't come with any information.
Gracias.

FarleyIsGod said: isles1 said: FarleyIsGod said: Here is a dumb question-
I added the SPG card to my AMEX website - how do I link that to the spg.com website?
Any help would be appreciated. CSR's don't seem to know how to do it.
I don't understand the question. The only way you "limk" the AMEX to SPG is by providing your SPG # when you applied for the AMEX, or else a new SPG account was created for you and linked to the CC.


Hmmm... well then I suppose my question is how do I access the created account (I did not have a previous SPG account). My welcome packet didn't come with any information.
Gracias.
Wait until the SPG welcome packet arrives or call SPG and ask them for your acct #.

Ok, here's my situation (I believe it's not that atypical, so hope is I won't be the only beneficiary of the discussion):
1. I have an AMEX SPG card which will be charged $45 annual fee in 2-3 weeks from now.
2. I'd like to avoid the fee and therefore seriously consider converting the card into Hilton HHonors.
(yes, it's a great card, but I have to stay in a hotel on my own dime only once every 3 years or so)
3. Not having the card will prevent me from generating activity on my SPG account.
4. As a result of 2 & 3 the 30K SPG points that I currently have will expire in about 12 months.
5. My wife has an SPG account too.
6. I was told by SPG CSR that points can be transferred between members residing at the same address without any limitations.

Will it be possible to transfer a bunch of points back and forth between the two of us thereby generating activity on both SPG accounts and keeping the points perpetually?

To my knowledge the transferring of points does not count as generating activity. On the otherhand, depending on where you live, a drink at their bar, or picking up something like a tube of travel sized toothpaste from the little shop thingy does count as activity I believe.

Question: Can I book a stay for someone else? I will not be staying at the hotel or will be there checking in. Is it possible to book a stay for someone else?

YiFeng said: Question: Can I book a stay for someone else? I will not be staying at the hotel or will be there checking in. Is it possible to book a stay for someone else?
Yes, it is within the terms of the program to book a stay for someone else. Just call and tell them who you wish to book the stay for.

silam said: To my knowledge the transferring of points does not count as generating activity. On the otherhand, depending on where you live, a drink at their bar, or picking up something like a tube of travel sized toothpaste from the little shop thingy does count as activity I believe.


One of the nice things about the *wood card for people who do not have a lot of actual stays is that the point activity generated from CC use counts as activity and keeps points alive.

I know that transfer between holders at the same address is very easy. I am not sure if that activity counts.


And Yif-- per the T&Cs a stay you book for someone else does not count as an eligible stay for your account. You need to actually check in with your ID and pay for the stay with your credit card.

(of course like many things YMMV)

To clarify the above poster - an award stay, whether for yourself or someone else, will never count as a "stay" although if you have incidentals charged to your room, that will qualify as "activity" to extend the life of your points. Not all things in a hotel are qualifying - parking, for example, usually is not.

To sum up, an award stay is not an elite qualifying stay. There's no YMMV on that. Now a Cash and Points stay, OTOH, is also not a qualifying stay buy YMMV on that as sometimes it will show up as a stay.

I wish there was a way to get from Gold to platinum easily... I have 6 weeks in award stays planned for Europe this summer and need to go as Plat rather than Gold since we'll have kids with us and getting any kind of upgrade because of that is already going to be a challenge.

jlgrandam said: I was thinking the exact same thing...plus there doesn't appear to be any bonus at cardselection anymore.

How much was cardselection offering you?

I have an affiliate account with AMEX, and could offer you $40 for an approval on that card.

How long is it taking everyone to get the bonus 10,000 points? I applied for this card back in November and it has been 4 billing statements since and have yet to see the bonus points.

I called last month to inquiry about it and was told it would show up next month. Now here we are next month and all I see is my starpoints from purchases.

YiFeng said: How long is it taking everyone to get the bonus 10,000 points? I applied for this card back in November and it has been 4 billing statements since and have yet to see the bonus points.

I called last month to inquiry about it and was told it would show up next month. Now here we are next month and all I see is my starpoints from purchases.


yes, they have become very sluggish posting the bonus points. It's usually full 12 weeks mentioned in T&C + 1 months "delay". In your case it sound the points will post when the current billing period closes (i.e., on the day your next statement is cut).

b8b said: I wish there was a way to get from Gold to platinum easily... I have 6 weeks in award stays planned for Europe this summer and need to go as Plat rather than Gold since we'll have kids with us and getting any kind of upgrade because of that is already going to be a challenge.

There was a Q1 promo where you only stayed half the nights required to qualify for platinum because of double stay credit. 13 nights instead of 25!!!

The same promo is on for Q2 - double stays if you are targeted.
Go to spg.com/promo , put your SPG# in, and see if you can do the double stays offer. If so, find a place to do 13 cheapo stays or 25 nights (just double check your offer doubles both) before your big trip.......

krazieman said: Sackajacka said: jiffy said: Has anyone been successful in getting them to waive the fee for year 2 or reduce it back to $30? I recall people were able to waive the $30 successfully last year. I called and tried but no go. I might call back and try again.

I called when I heard the annual fee was going up. I was told by the CSR to call back when billed at renewal -- my spending on the card (daily spender) was high enough that they should waive it if I kepy up at the same level. He seemed to indicate that there was some tiered structure as to your spending and "rating". My impression was that waiving the fee was much more likely the more you actually use the card.


I called today regarding the increase in card fees, but the CSR didn't offer anything.
When I said I would just cancel the card, she said I should look at other AMEX cards then.

I spent over 50k on the card this year.
What sort of threshold do you have to spend to get the fee deductions?


I was able to get the fee waived. Told the CSR that I had spoken to a rep several months ago when the fee raise was announced who told me to call when I was charged and request the credit. It sounded like it was an automated computer decision from her response -- "let me see if I can do that.... pause... ok sir, I was able to remove that fee for you..."

Was also able to have APR lowered from prime +9.99 to prime +7.99 variable. I know, no one here ever carries a balance, but it can't hurt to lower the rates. This process was exactly the same as the first request.

As a data point, my annual spending was just over $40k.

I just reluctantly canceled my SPG card that I've had since '05. I tried a couple of reps and none would wave the $45 fee. They also could not transfer me down to a different card that has no annual fee. I would have had to cancel and then reapply for a different card. They did wave the fee last year for me. In the last year, I've spent maybe $100 per month with this card. The year they waved the fee I was spending over $1,000 per month on it. Not sure if that's why. I also have a $10k AOR balance with my InNYC card. I'm a bit sad.. I liked using the SPG points for upscale hotels in big cities.

So, how long do I have to wait before I can reapply?

After the sign up bonus for 10k points, is there any other ways to get bonus starpoints besides spending 15k over 6 months?

YiFeng, I don't know if this will help, but there are other bonuses each quarter through hotel stays.
https://www.spgpromos.com/quarterly/index.cfm?EM=VTY_SPG_promo

By registering, I got an extra 2000 starpoints on my last 2 hotel stays, in addition to the normal starpoints.

Does buying lunch or soda at these hotels still count towards a stay?

No. You can earn Starpoints if your restaurant bill exceeds $15, but it will not count as a stay.

Instant approval. Can't wait to get this card and start using it!

Do most people use this for the actual hotels or air? I'm not sure which I'll use it for most just yet.

Just a heads up, I was able to book the Westin Tokyo for 16k points per night (Category 4). The room was normally priced at 37000Y per night or $385 / night at the current exchange rate. I'm saving a BUNDLE this way.

EDIT: I checked on spg.com and they lowered the fare to 12k points per night. I canceled my original reservation and re-did it

Here is a question for you guys:

Do they still offer the 15k extra points for 15k spent in 6 mos?

I am forgetting if I saw this offer on the AMEX site as I signed up for this, but I've seen it around the internet. I'm hoping I still do get this. If I don't, do you think if I call AMEX they'll honor it?

yes

jacobstusa said: Here is a question for you guys:

Do they still offer the 15k extra points for 15k spent in 6 mos?

I am forgetting if I saw this offer on the AMEX site as I signed up for this, but I've seen it around the internet. I'm hoping I still do get this. If I don't, do you think if I call AMEX they'll honor it?


I think so. I'm putting my tuition on it next semester. I signed up through the promo link that stated it, so I'll fax it in if they deny

Is the 15K point promo targeted?

I just received a promo to get 1000 starpoints for spending $50 on Amazon.com by 3/31. Not very difficult, I think.

cyberkost said: YiFeng said: How long is it taking everyone to get the bonus 10,000 points? I applied for this card back in November and it has been 4 billing statements since and have yet to see the bonus points.

I called last month to inquiry about it and was told it would show up next month. Now here we are next month and all I see is my starpoints from purchases.


yes, they have become very sluggish posting the bonus points. It's usually full 12 weeks mentioned in T&C + 1 months "delay". In your case it sound the points will post when the current billing period closes (i.e., on the day your next statement is cut).


They take their miserable time, im on my 4th month... this is completely the opposite of my Citi AA cards... terrible!

I got mine immediately in the following month after my 1st month bill, with the purchase made. the condition is 10000 point after 1st purchase

Hello,

I read all 18 pages and hope I didn't miss anything. I'm new to the world of frequent flier mile redemption. Is there some sort of site or online calculator that helps determine one's best choice for say a flight from San Francisco to Miami? Or does one pretty much have to visit each and every rewards program/site to determine the best/cheapest choice?

Thanks!

Miami to San Francisco is going to be 25,000 miles as an economy "saver" or "standard" award in nearly all programs. Sometimes you can get a short US domestic flight on certain routes for 15,000 miles. Southwest uses points and it will cost 16 for a domestic flight.

The cost in miles or points will start to vary a little when you look at international flights. For that you'll have to compare different award charts, or if you have a specific flight in mind, someone might already know the answer.

Gotcha, thanks.

Same answer when looking at First Class too from San Fran to Miami?

Lastly, I was planning on just going US Air unless anyone has a recommendation to go w/ one of the others?

Thanks again!

If you want to fly Miami-San Francisco a lot, then you might want to consider that only American Airlines flies nonstop.

A domestic first class award costs 45k miles on Delta, United, American, and 50k on US Air, Northwest, Continental. In case this isn't clear, you can also choose to join a foreign airline program like Lufthansa, and then redeem those miles for tickets on a partner like United Airlines. That may or may not be a good idea for some people.

More info on the cost of award tickets here:

Continental
http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/onepass/rewards/travel/charts/default.aspx

Delta
http://images.delta.com/delta/pdfs/skymiles/multi_airline_awards.pdf
http://www.delta.com/skymiles/use_miles/award_upgrade_mileage/partner_airline_awards/index.jsp

Northwest
http://www.nwa.com/awardcharts/us49.shtml

US Airways
http://www.usairways.com/awa/content/dividendmiles/usemiles/awardchart.aspx

United
http://www.United.com/page/article/0,6722,1142,00.html
http://www.United.com/ual/asset/MP_awards_chart_INAE_061016.pdf

American
http://www.aa.com/aa/pubcontent/en_US/AAdvantage/partners/airlines/americanAirlines.jsp#travelawards
http://www.aa.com/aa/pubcontent/en_US/AAdvantage/partners/airlines/All_Airline_Award_Chart.jsp

Hey, cool, thanks!


I appreciate all the info and hope that it helps others as well.

BubbleDVD said: Hello,

I read all 18 pages and hope I didn't miss anything. I'm new to the world of frequent flier mile redemption. Is there some sort of site or online calculator that helps determine one's best choice for say a flight from San Francisco to Miami? Or does one pretty much have to visit each and every rewards program/site to determine the best/cheapest choice?

Thanks!


With FF programs "cheapest" isn't necessarily your first consideration, since (as others have mentioned) the redemption levels are pretty standard across airlines. If you're not already a member of a FF program, try to pick one that flies where you want to go. For instance, there might be a couple of airlines that make up a significant number of the flights out of your home airport. Or, as RJG said, some direct routes are only served by certain airlines.

Figure out who goes where you want to go. If you have multiple options, than program rules like expiration, ease of redemption, or program-specific credit card bonuses might break the tie.

The nice thing about the Starwood card is you can start earning points now without locking yourself into one airline

hmmm am i missing something here? i can earn one point per dollar with my SPG AMEX OR one point per dollar with my platinum AMEX. it takes 3 MR AMEX points to convert into ONE SPG point. SPG points can easily be redeemed at about 3%; i.e. 10,000 points to get one night in a $300 4/5 star hotel. MR points seem to only be redeemable at about 1% for merchandise or whatever (i am SURE there is a more effective way of using MR points - but i'm not aware of it).

bottom line it just seems like the SPG points are way more valuable. i am considering dumping my personal/biz gold/platinum AMEX cards that cost me over $500 a year in fees and just going with the SPG. thoughts? am i missing something? thanks!

clyde_frog said: hmmm am i missing something here? i can earn one point per dollar with my SPG AMEX OR one point per dollar with my platinum AMEX. it takes 3 MR AMEX points to convert into ONE SPG point. SPG points can easily be redeemed at about 3%; i.e. 10,000 points to get one night in a $300 4/5 star hotel. MR points seem to only be redeemable at about 1% for merchandise or whatever (i am SURE there is a more effective way of using MR points - but i'm not aware of it).

bottom line it just seems like the SPG points are way more valuable. i am considering dumping my personal/biz gold/platinum AMEX cards that cost me over $500 a year in fees and just going with the SPG. thoughts? am i missing something? thanks!


Not only that, MR points are only 1:1 for a variety airlines, whereas SPG has 1:1.25 (if 20,000 points transferred) for a wide variety of airlines.

I signed up for the SPG and SPG Biz AMEX cards last year and received both 10k bonuses. Both cards were up for renewal and I didn't want to pay the fee.

I called the SPG AMEX customer service, talked to a retention specialist and was offered a $10 statement credit to keep the card. She could see that I hadn't used the card in quite a while (I only used it for the first purchase last year) and said that she could've offered a higher credit if I had used the card more. The other option she gave me was to convert to the AMEX Blue card with no fee...and I accepted that. I have been using my Skymiles Platinum AMEX card for my everyday purchases for quite a while and don't plan on changing that.

I then called the SPG Biz AMEX customer service, talked to a retention specialist and was offered a $25 statement credit to keep the card. I haven't used this card in a quite a while either (only used for first purchase last year) and basically said I don't plan to use it (after the credit was offered). I chose to go ahead and close it.

Just thought I'd provide a couple data points for other people in the same situation.



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