Thanks to FFGuru for revising his excellent rewards card thread to touch on something I have been thinking about for awhile. While some discussion (and a list) has started in that thread, I think this topic merits its own thread.
Within the past couple of years, supermarkets have started selling gift cards of all types. I've seen gift cards for Disneyland, Sears, and Macaroni Grill--just to name a few. With a little planning, those of us who have rewards cards that offer 5% Cash Back at supermarkets can take advantage of these gift cards to extend the 5% reward beyond the supermarket realm. This might come in especially handy for large purchases, such as buying a fridge at Sears.
Has anyone developed a good strategy with respect to these gift cards? Has anyone had any positive/negative experiences? For instance, does Sears have a cap on how much in gift cards you can apply to one purchase? Or has buying these gift cards raised any red flags with your CC issuer?
Is there any interest in trying to develop a list that covers the types of gift cards available at specific supermarkets? I know FFGuru started one in his thread, but it might be valuable to pool our resources and try to come up with a somewhat comprehensive list that could point FW'ers to specific supermarkets if they are in need of a specific gift card.
Thoughts?
Edit: Dealpass has come up more than once in this thread. Since Dealpass isn't discussed much in FW Finance, I thought it would be helpful to refer people to the definitive Dealpass discussion taking place over on FW Deal Discussion.
Edit #2: New, focused FW Finance discussion of Dealpass found here.
The Dealpass offers are a better option for GC buying. Sure 5% is nice, if you need it today. But if you plan, 10-20% through the DP programs is obviously a better deal.
I have used my citi div. select card at supermarkets to buy a few gift cards. The problem is that some of the cards expire or lose credit after awhile. I personally think doing this probably just makes you spend more.
Kempman
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 12:45p
maddybeagle said: I have used my citi div. select card at supermarkets to buy a few gift cards. The problem is that some of the cards expire or lose credit after awhile. I personally think doing this probably just makes you spend more.
That's an important point. I think the key is to have your purchase already planned out.
vargasb
Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 12:49p
Kempman said: For instance, does Sears have a cap on how much in gift cards you can apply to one purchase?
I don't think there's a dollar value cap, but there may be a cap on the number of cards you can redeem at one time. I did have that issue once (I had $750 worth of $25 gift cards). The limit was 15 cards. It was resolved by going to the Sears store office and trading all those $25 cards for larger denomination cards. I know people who've done a kitchen remodel using Sears gift cards.
Kempman
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 12:50p
Doing research online, it looks like you can buy Kroger gift cards (Ralph's, Food 4 Less, Kroger, Smith's etc.) that are good at any Kroger family store, including 3 jewelry stores--Fred Meyer Jewelers, Barclay Jewelers and Littman's Jewelers.
So this might be one way FW'ers can save an additional 5% on a big, preplanned purchase for a significant other.
sedaps
Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 1:38p
Kempman said: maddybeagle said: I have used my citi div. select card at supermarkets to buy a few gift cards. The problem is that some of the cards expire or lose credit after awhile. I personally think doing this probably just makes you spend more.
That's an important point. I think the key is to have your purchase already planned out.
Also check your state's laws. In CA, gift cards can not expire.
scanlan17
Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 1:45p
I'm just wondering, why buy the gift card at all? If your credit card gives you 5% CashBack, just use your credit card when you make a purchase at the store. I can only see this strategy justified if it's a limited time offer (for 5%) or if the store offers you incentives to buy their gift cards. If not, I think you're just taking on more risks because you might lose those gift cards.
I just realized that you guys were talking about giftcards to other places, and not the grocery store's giftcard. 4% difference is not worth spending my money on something i don't really need.
thytimo
Addicted Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 1:49p
Credit cards don't offer 5% CashBack at every type of store, this is a way of extending the savings to other types of stores that only usually get 1% back.
Our company offers 20% off certain giftcards (Macy's, Brinkers Restaurants, etc...) and a ton of people line up to get them. On the flip side, a lot of people don't get them because they think it'll give their significant other an excuse just to go shopping.
But like someone else said:
20% off Macy giftcard + 10%-20% coupon in the mail + clearance item = Fatwallet deal.
I belong to a program like Deal Pass. I buy my GC's all year long for stores that I know I will shop at during Christmas time. It's like my Christmas fund. My program allows me to get GC's for Toys R Us, with two kids I save a lot of money.
scanlan17 said: I just realized that you guys were talking about giftcards to other places, and not the grocery store's giftcard. 4% difference is not worth spending my money on something i don't really need. C'mon man, think about it. OP is not talking about just casually buying GC's. If you're going to some retailer to buy something anyway, why not plan ahead and get an easy 5% off with the GC?
imho, getting 5% Cash Back for purchasing GC at the supermarket is not worth it.
1. you end up with a GC that is not really liquid. 2. if you purchase the item using the GC, you don't get the benefits of CC (BVG, extended warranty, loss protection, return guarantee). 3. the difference between 5% Cash Back and 1-3% return on a card like starwood is relatively small dollar wise and imho, not worth it.
HEATHER77
Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 2:53p
I buy restaurant gift cards at the grocery store. My son gets a free personal pizza every month from Pizza Hut for school. I buy the gift card and then the we use it when he gets his certificate.
FFGuru
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 2:53p
miserly said: imho, getting 5% Cash Back for purchasing GC at the supermarket is not worth it.
1. you end up with a GC that is not really liquid. 2. if you purchase the item using the GC, you don't get the benefits of CC (BVG, extended warranty, loss protection, return guarantee). 3. the difference between 5% Cash Back and 1-3% return on a card like starwood is relatively small dollar wise and imho, not worth it.
At many of the places offering GC's, BVG, the warranty etc isn't really a big factor. (ie Nordstrom, restaurants, Book stores, etc) 5% is 5%. So many say that it is too much hassle..... to pick up a gift card at a store you visit at least weekly? I don't consider that much of a hassle. I don't think anyone is going to buy a gift card for every single purchase they make, but when it comes time to make a big purchase, or when it comes to a place you visit often, it's a great idea.
If it is not worth the hassle of getting a gift card a the grocery store, how is it even remotely worth the hassle of applying for a credit card for any type of reward?
FYI - For those with the Citi Simplicity card you do not get 5% back at grocery stores, but you will at drugstores and gas stations. I've used this to buy gift cards at Wawa and I've gotten the 5% back. This was really nice at the end of last year when I didn't hit my annual limit, so I bought a few hundred in wawa gas cards which I know I will use. Same principle works for Sunoco, shell, etc gift cards.
Also, the selection of gift cards at my local grocery store is much larger around christmas time.
I also use my cc to buy WalMart gift cards online to use at sam's club. Got a 500 dollar card last dec. Used the discover card online 5% promotion, but next time, I will use my chase cash plus card. Wal-Mart charges 1-2 bucks to mail Otherwise, I read that it is hard to walk into WalMart and buy???
kmlohr
Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 3:37p
HEATHER77 said: I buy restaurant gift cards at the grocery store. My son gets a free personal pizza every month from Pizza Hut for school. I buy the gift card and then the we use it when he gets his certificate.
Me too! I also buy at the gift cards at Giant Eagle, which also gives fuel perks. You earn 10 cents off a gallon of gas for each fifty dollars spent, including gift cards. Saves about 10% when you have a 25 gallon fuel tank and a 5% CC rebate. Add coupons for a pizza or buffet for everyone else, and it's a cheap night out for the family.
I cannot believe that someone would advocate buying GCs at face value to get 5% on their credit cards when you can get GCs at 20% off thru DP and other programs.
manuel
Greedy Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 3:59p
And if you use a 2% back credit card DP giftcards are more like 22% off - actually I guess 21.6% off.
Just need to know a couple weeks in advance, and be sure you'll have enough volume/goodtiming to compensate for fees.
Billiken
Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 4:20p
SUB said: I cannot believe that someone would advocate buying GCs at face value to get 5% on their credit cards when you can get GCs at 20% off thru DP and other programs.
Okay, well fine then. If "DP" and these other programs are so great, maybe you'd like to take the time to share why, and how for the rest of us?
Hmm, maybe a link even would be nice?
manuel
Greedy Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 4:22p
Go to the menu right below forums and click on "DEAL DISCUSSION". Then look for dealpass or 20% - lots of info (accurate and inaccurate) there. Or just expect folks here to restate it all...
rbjrk
Happy Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 4:26p
I get 10% off on gas cards. Which is much beter, than any other supermarket gift cards. If any one needs gas cards for 10% off the face value please let me know.
SUB said: I cannot believe that someone would advocate buying GCs at face value to get 5% on their credit cards when you can get GCs at 20% off thru DP and other programs.
You act like it's one or the other. Say I plan to go to Olive Garden tonight, how is dealpass going to work for me? Or how about if there is a Hot Deal this week at Staples, Circuit City, etc? An xtra few percent is better than nothing.
Nothing beats Dealpass for gift cards. But you can't plan for every potential GC use 1-2 weeks in advance.
Billiken said: SUB said: I cannot believe that someone would advocate buying GCs at face value to get 5% on their credit cards when you can get GCs at 20% off thru DP and other programs.
Okay, well fine then. If "DP" and these other programs are so great, maybe you'd like to take the time to share why, and how for the rest of us?
VTrain said: SUB said: I cannot believe that someone would advocate buying GCs at face value to get 5% on their credit cards when you can get GCs at 20% off thru DP and other programs.
You act like it's one or the other. Say I plan to go to Olive Garden tonight, how is dealpass going to work for me? Or how about if there is a Hot Deal this week at Staples, Circuit City, etc? An xtra few percent is better than nothing.
Nothing beats Dealpass for gift cards. But you can't plan for every potential GC use 1-2 weeks in advance.
I agree with you that you can't plan for every possible scenario. Realistically speaking - if you're going to Olive Garden tonight, why not use your 5% restaurant card (you do have one, right?) as opposed to buying one from the store (assuming your supermarket sells OG cards, and that you have time to go to the store). It is the same percentage and you don't have to worry about leaving $$ on the gift card.
If, on the other hand, you go to Olive Garden a lot - then you can definitely plan for this ahead of time. DP cards usually take 4 business days to receive after you place an order.
Also, the OP said this: This might come in especially handy for large purchases, such as buying a fridge at Sears. I definitely hope that one would plan ahead for large purchases (this is FWF after all).
One advantage of buying GCs at a store as opposed to DP is the DP monthly/yearly fee, but there's ways to minimize those.
mrcheese321
Senior Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 4:50p
Also, one thing you can do as well is buy AMEX branded gift cards.
My local Randalls (Safeway) has AMEX branded gift cards that work as stored valued AMEX cards. That way you don't get stuck with balances on your gift cards.
mrcheese321 said: Also, one thing you can do as well is buy AMEX branded gift cards.
My local Randalls (Safeway) has AMEX branded gift cards that work as stored valued AMEX cards. That way you don't get stuck with balances on your gift cards.
C
FYI for those in California, AMEX/Visa/MC gift cards are allowed to have expiration dates and fees.
SUB said: I agree with you that you can't plan for every possible scenario. Realistically speaking - if you're going to Olive Garden tonight, why not use your 5% restaurant card (you do have one, right?) as opposed to buying one from the store (assuming your supermarket sells OG cards, and that you have time to go to the store). It is the same percentage and you don't have to worry about leaving $$ on the gift card.
Which credit card are you referring to, that gives 5% back from restaurants?
Also, for most people, having a different credit card for each type of store they shop at is not a realistic option.
manuel
Greedy Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 5:01p
sigh. Please search. Was probably referring to discover rest. or citi mtvu or citi prof. or another card with 3-5% back on all restaurants. Very good thread on this if you look.
Not really relavent, but if one's not ready to carry a few cards around this thread is not a place to loiter...
manuel said: sigh. Please search. Was probably referring to discover rest. or citi mtvu or citi prof. or another card with 3-5% back on all restaurants. Very good thread on this if you look.
Not really relavent, but if one's not ready to carry a few cards around this thread is not a place to loiter...
I did search, and I'd already seen that thread. The only 5% restaurant card there is the mtvu card, which is only for college students. Discover restaurant card is no longer available.
Billiken
Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 5:21p
SUB said: Billiken said: SUB said: I cannot believe that someone would advocate buying GCs at face value to get 5% on their credit cards when you can get GCs at 20% off thru DP and other programs.
Okay, well fine then. If "DP" and these other programs are so great, maybe you'd like to take the time to share why, and how for the rest of us?
Why yes, I did. Thanks for asking though. Try seacrhing for Deal Pass, and Gift card. I don't see any information of any value... Do you?
As a favor to the rest of us, I'd sure link the info if I could find it though. That way not everyone is wasting time looking for the same information.
manuel
Greedy Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 5:40p
VTrain said: manuel said: sigh. Please search. Was probably referring to discover rest. or citi mtvu or citi prof. or another card with 3-5% back on all restaurants. Very good thread on this if you look.
Not really relavent, but if one's not ready to carry a few cards around this thread is not a place to loiter...
I did search, and I'd already seen that thread. The only 5% restaurant card there is the mtvu card, which is only for college students. Discover restaurant card is no longer available.
I've got it. Look at citi prof. & AMEX costco true rewards as options.
stumuck
New Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 5:40p
maddybeagle said: I also use my cc to buy WalMart gift cards online to use at sam's club. Got a 500 dollar card last dec. Used the discover card online 5% promotion, but next time, I will use my chase cash plus card. Wal-Mart charges 1-2 bucks to mail Otherwise, I read that it is hard to walk into WalMart and buy???
I buy WalMart gift cards with my Visa or AMEX cc at the the checkout from clerks in Wal-Mart to use at Sams club or WalMart gas station,never any problem.
manuel
Greedy Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 5:41p
Billiken said: SUB said: Billiken said: SUB said: I cannot believe that someone would advocate buying GCs at face value to get 5% on their credit cards when you can get GCs at 20% off thru DP and other programs.
Okay, well fine then. If "DP" and these other programs are so great, maybe you'd like to take the time to share why, and how for the rest of us?
Why yes, I did. Thanks for asking though. Try seacrhing for Deal Pass, and Gift card. I don't see any information of any value... Do you?
As a favor to the rest of us, I'd sure link the info if I could find it though. That way not everyone is wasting time looking for the same information.
If you look in "DEAL DISCUSSION" as I suggested you'll see a thread with 3875 replies on this very subject!
manuel said: VTrain said: manuel said: sigh. Please search. Was probably referring to discover rest. or citi mtvu or citi prof. or another card with 3-5% back on all restaurants. Very good thread on this if you look.
Not really relavent, but if one's not ready to carry a few cards around this thread is not a place to loiter...
I did search, and I'd already seen that thread. The only 5% restaurant card there is the mtvu card, which is only for college students. Discover restaurant card is no longer available.
I've got it. Look at citi prof. & AMEX costco true rewards as options.
I have a TrueEarnings card. Both of those cards give 3%. How exactly is that a better choice than getting 5%?
I purchased a fridge and new carpeting at Home Depot, total around $2K, with giftcards purchased at a local supermarket. The guy asked where I got all the gift cards, so I told him I purchased them at the supermarket to get the 5%. He thought it was a great idea. He did have to check with a manager to make sure it was OK to take so many gift cards, but the manager said it was ok. It did take a long time for him to enter all the gift cards into the system.
manuel
Greedy Member
posted: Mar. 8, 2006 @ 6:00p
VTrain said: manuel said: VTrain said: manuel said: sigh. Please search. Was probably referring to discover rest. or citi mtvu or citi prof. or another card with 3-5% back on all restaurants. Very good thread on this if you look.
Not really relavent, but if one's not ready to carry a few cards around this thread is not a place to loiter...
I did search, and I'd already seen that thread. The only 5% restaurant card there is the mtvu card, which is only for college students. Discover restaurant card is no longer available.
I've got it. Look at citi prof. & AMEX costco true rewards as options.
I have a TrueEarnings card. Both of those cards give 3%. How exactly is that a better choice than getting 5%?
I get 5% but then I can search and applied for the discover rest. card before they stopped offering it to new folks.
Given the lock in of a GC versus a 3% back card I'd hesitate before locking in where I'm going to eat while I'm standing at safeway. I'd settle for the 3% when I can't buy 21-22% back GCs for the same place.
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