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tooshy
- Frivolous Member
posted: Apr. 24, 2006 @ 11:08p
manuel said:AbbaZabba said:the best way to keep the 10k in the account would probably be to pick out two high-grade closed end tax-free bond funds with low fees trading at a decent discount. Should yield 5-6% with hardly any risk.
Love CEFs at a discount, really do. But there is a lot more risk than that.
If you need the 10k back I'd stick with short term bond funds - I'm still too SHY to mention which one. Is verrrry liquid though and yielding about 4% - and should be state tax free.Very cryptic manuel |
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manuel
- Greedy Member
posted: Apr. 24, 2006 @ 11:17p
tooshy - thanks, that was what I was going for. Mentioned it pages ago in this thread but people seem determined to make it tough and play MM games and fancy CEFs. This deal is complicated, but there's no reasons the investments have to be. |
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AbbaZabba
- Addicted Member
posted: Apr. 24, 2006 @ 11:29p
just a hypothetical... with completely free trades for 45 days, could you move all your money into a few funds (diversify) with really nice monthly dividends, i'm talking maybe .75% to get in on the dividend and move them out a few days after? Since it's 45 days free if you timed it right, you could do it twice. This could give you an extra 1.5% overall. What do you guys think? too risky? |
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jpsmoney
- Ancient Member
posted: Apr. 24, 2006 @ 11:32p
If we make 15 trades in the first month, do we automatically get Apex status after 1 month, or do you have to wait until 3 months is up no matter what? |
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qwe123
- Senior Member
posted: Apr. 24, 2006 @ 11:38p
TD Ameritrade, formerly Ameritrade, is offering a 3.5% APY money market account as your brokerage's settlement account, i.e, your cash of $10,000 is generating 3.5% APY on top of the $500 bounus, and if you are an active trader like me, 30 trades a month, that will be additional $450 dollar value.
This is an offer you can't afford not to take advantage of. AbbaZabba said:just a hypothetical... with completely free trades for 45 days, could you move all your money into a few funds (diversify) with really nice monthly dividends, i'm talking maybe .75% to get in on the dividend and move them out a few days after? Since it's 45 days free if you timed it right, you could do it twice. This could give you an extra 1.5% overall. What do you guys think? too risky?
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nucor
- Member
posted: Apr. 24, 2006 @ 11:44p
AbbaZabba said:just a hypothetical... with completely free trades for 45 days, could you move all your money into a few funds (diversify) with really nice monthly dividends, i'm talking maybe .75% to get in on the dividend and move them out a few days after? Since it's 45 days free if you timed it right, you could do it twice. This could give you an extra 1.5% overall. What do you guys think? too risky?
I suspect these are free stock/ETF trades not mutual fund trades. Ameritrade charges high commission for mutual fund trades. I am confused about your .75% monthly dividend scenario. The fund price will probably reflect the dividend the day after it pays. if there is an easy arbitrage like that, you might as well just time it right again and again (with paying the commission) and make a lot of money. |
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tooshy
- Frivolous Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 12:13a
manuel said:tooshy - thanks, that was what I was going for. Mentioned it pages ago in this thread but people seem determined to make it tough and play MM games and fancy CEFs. This deal is complicated, but there's no reasons the investments have to be.Unless of course you like GOLD better ....which is why I took the ING funds and moved it to Presidential for the moment, so I'm not in t-bills yet. I was reading something over the weekend, and it got me a bit spooked. Carribean funds (I know I know I don't know what I'm talking about ) but FWIW, large amounts have left the Treasury (no coincidence rates are higher, but also it was predicted because of budget shortfalls.) Do you think it has anything to do with commodity futures? (I read it re: gold futures where the Carribeans "hedged" their orders in treasuries.) Can't find the article. But I'm thinking could the gold runup be because of hedge funds, in which case maybe a big correction is coming soon. Oh well, nice to be a investment newbie, no pressure to be correct. |
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manuel
- Greedy Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 12:17a
No idea. I have no interest in anything that doesn't pay a dividend - unless there's some angle by which I can get it below the current price. Future possible prices for commodities - they're either unknowable or require a lot more brain cells that I've got to divine. |
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tooshy
- Frivolous Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 12:24a
Husband told me to buy gold two years ago, and I told him that would be too stressful at the time (other investments weren't behaving) and I wanted to keep everything in cash....really can kick myself now. Doesn't get easier, but times are sure getting heated up. I'm still "everthing in CDs", but I'm willing to try a little also. Having $1K to "hedge" being wrong is nice |
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manuel
- Greedy Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 12:37a
He had pretty good timing - perhaps he should try the horses. I see nothing wrong with having a little hedge - but my personal rule about below the current price makes it tough for me.
For the TDameritrade deal though I think the key is low principal risk - it's likely to be borrowed money in the case of many here. And if I were to put in my own money I'd hate to be forced to sell in 9-10 months; or forced to pay an account transfer fee. |
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tooshy
- Frivolous Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 12:48a
Yes, he's also worried about the dollar weakening and constantly asks if the money in the bank is going to be worth less? However, this deal is perfect, after all is said and done I'll probably do the t-bills Besides the hedge fund spook, I'm also not sure if a global slowdown (probably India, not sure China) will bite gold before it runs up again.
Sorry for going OT, just trying to get manuel to spill some investment nuggets.... |
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AbbaZabba
- Addicted Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 12:56a
this is basically a 8.5% 10k min/max 1 year cd that you can add risk to if you want. |
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chimera451
- Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 8:08a
I was reading through the terms and conditions and this is the way I understand the deal.
To qualify for the $500 APEX bonus, your TD AMERITRADE account must have an average of 5 trades per month or $100,000 total account value in the first three months. Allow 3-4 weeks after account reaches Apex status for $500 bonus to post to your account. Your account must remain open with minimum funding for 9 months after $500 credit posts to account or TD AMERITRADE may charge the account for the cash awarded. Apex qualification is reviewed every three months.
The important aspect here is the last line. I interpret that as saying that your account won't be placed into APEX status until 3 months after you open it. Then you have to wait another 3 to 4 weeks for the $500 bonus to be applied. Then you need to wait another 9 months after the bonus is deposited in your account before you can withdraw the money with no penalty. So basically, you are looking at having your money tied up for 13 months. Correct me if I am wrong. |
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zoop76
- Addicted Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 9:18a
qwe123 said:TD Ameritrade, formerly Ameritrade, is offering a 3.5% APY money market account as your brokerage's settlement account, i.e, your cash of $10,000 is generating 3.5% APY on top of the $500 bounus, and if you are an active trader like me, 30 trades a month, that will be additional $450 dollar value.
This is an offer you can't afford not to take advantage of.
AbbaZabba said:just a hypothetical... with completely free trades for 45 days, could you move all your money into a few funds (diversify) with really nice monthly dividends, i'm talking maybe .75% to get in on the dividend and move them out a few days after? Since it's 45 days free if you timed it right, you could do it twice. This could give you an extra 1.5% overall. What do you guys think? too risky? Or you could get a fund like PIMCO MONEY MARKET that is no-load and currently paying 4.27%. |
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sdeals
- Senior Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 12:04p
This better work out... I open an account and funded it with $10k... should be better than letting that money sit at HSBC...  |
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sdeals
- Senior Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 1:35p
zoop76 said:qwe123 said:TD Ameritrade, formerly Ameritrade, is offering a 3.5% APY money market account as your brokerage's settlement account, i.e, your cash of $10,000 is generating 3.5% APY on top of the $500 bounus, and if you are an active trader like me, 30 trades a month, that will be additional $450 dollar value.
This is an offer you can't afford not to take advantage of.
AbbaZabba said:just a hypothetical... with completely free trades for 45 days, could you move all your money into a few funds (diversify) with really nice monthly dividends, i'm talking maybe .75% to get in on the dividend and move them out a few days after? Since it's 45 days free if you timed it right, you could do it twice. This could give you an extra 1.5% overall. What do you guys think? too risky? Or you could get a fund like PIMCO MONEY MARKET that is no-load and currently paying 4.27%.
That would be $17.99 to buy in and then another $17.99 to buy out of that PIMCO MONEY MARKET. Right?
I was also thinking of openning a checking account with TD. Would the balance on that checking account count toward the $10k minimum? |
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tholzer
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 1:42p
Sounds good. I went to the promo page. When I go to sign up, the promo is no longer mentioned. Do I need to input some promo code, or can I just assume it will keep track of the promo for me>? |
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ETFnerd
- Happy Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 1:42p
manuel said:One can certainly trade in and out of a short term bond etf - i'm too shy to say which one - with large volume and small spreads.delayed LOL. I am also too shy to say which one. this one took me a while  |
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Arcanlaw
- Tired Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 1:53p
In, thanks OP.
I don't do much trading so I'm flying a little blind. I appreciate the advice given here, just want the bonus and 3.5% MM yield for myself and my wife. Easy $1k.
I funded with $10,200 just in case I lost a buck or two in these numerous trades - wouldn't want them to argue I dropped below the $10K mark in that 9 mo period my account will stay open after receiving the bonus. |
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tooshy
- Frivolous Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 2:12p
ETFnerd said:manuel said:One can certainly trade in and out of a short term bond etf - i'm too shy to say which one - with large volume and small spreads.delayed LOL. I am also too shy to say which one. this one took me a while 
I'm not too shy to say I'm confused, manuel said:
<<If you need the 10k back I'd stick with short term bond funds - I'm still too SHY to mention which one. Is verrrry liquid though and yielding about 4% - and should be state tax free.>>
Is there a treasury etf? treasury bond fund? that is better than a plain t-bill order? |
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