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tholzer
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 5:36p
sdeals said:Raven1 said:I just called; they said when you sign up electronically, you automatically get the promotion code.
Not true. Does your account show of the promo when you login? I signed up electronically and the account does not show any promotion. I was charged the 9.99. I think you mucst call (as was recently stated). thanks |
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zuttopretear
- Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 6:52p
just had online chat, you have to open account online then call in, the csr will put the code for you to get that promo. if you trade the same stock for 3 or more round trips in 5 business days you are day trader and must keep $25k min bal. also you can open acc for minor in custodial acc to get the promotion |
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audex
- Tired Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 7:09p
zuttopretear wrote:
just had online chat, you have to open account online then call in, the csr will put the code for you to get that promo. if you trade the same stock for 3 or more round trips in 5 business days you are day trader and must keep $25k min bal. also you can open acc for minor in custodial acc to get the promotion
Thanks for the update. So as long as they are different stocks, we are okay it seems. |
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zuttopretear
- Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 7:28p
audex said:zuttopretear wrote:
just had online chat, you have to open account online then call in, the csr will put the code for you to get that promo. if you trade the same stock for 3 or more round trips in 5 business days you are day trader and must keep $25k min bal. also you can open acc for minor in custodial acc to get the promotion
Thanks for the update. So as long as they are different stocks, we are okay it seems. yes, and if you hold the stock overnight you are not day trader. |
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manuel
- Greedy Member
posted: Apr. 25, 2006 @ 8:28p
If you look around you'll notice my SHY friend has two siblings - with increasing duration. Very easy to imagine rotating through them to avoid any semblance of daytrading(shudder). |
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sanxxx
- Senior Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 10:27a
syncomm1 said:I know other deals at Ameritrade that may even be better. I would be happy to share these ideas. Would appreciate if you would let me recommend you before you open the account--I will get a few free trades and cost you nothing.
Or, feel free to emaiul me with any questions about Ameritrade. I have had a good experience there and can answer your questions.
Good luck!!
Would you like to post the deals here. |
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EricGo
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 12:03p
manuel said:EricGo said:ETFnerd said:Arcanlaw said:I believe he's talking about SHY. Not sure why the obfuscation is needed, it's just a suggested low-volatility bond, there are many out there that don't move very much. This isn't exactly a hot stock tip that needs to be moderated is it?because this is not a bond or bond fund. It is an equity position in a st bond portfolio which qualifies as an equity trade.If that is the case, I stand corrected. I thought Manuel was talking about the secondary market for US treasury bonds. So SHY profits are state tax free ?
No. AFAIK dividends are state tax free. Any gains are taxable.
By no means the only, or even the best option. Still relatively high volume and short duration make it a reasonable choice for OPM for 9-10 months. Also has a ER of 15 bps - no record but I'm comfortable with that. YTM from sponser quotes at 4.91.
No hot stock tips from me.Manuel, please provide a glossary to your no doubt helpful post:
High Volume & short Duration (are you talking about liquidity here ?)
OPM
ER
YTM |
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manuel
- Greedy Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 12:30p
High Volume & short Duration (are you talking about liquidity here ?) OPM ER YTM
Ok. OPM is Other People's Money. ER is expense ratio. YTM is yield to maturity.
High volume says a lot about liquidity. Short duration is just a restatement that they hold fairly short term bonds. For any who don't know bps is basis points - essentially hundredths of a % point. So a bond fund with a 1% expense ratio(horrors) could be thought of as having a ER of 100bps.
Spread is your enemy in this offer, that and ameritrade[edit]'s internal rules. I could easily be wrong about this but I think of spread being minimized by high volume and highish share price. The one I've been mentioning trades in the 79-81 range. |
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ETFnerd
- Happy Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 4:43p
and the bid/ask spread is a penny |
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mothra0
- Happy Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 4:57p
Just signed up. You have to call after you complete the online app to get the promo on the acct.
After that is done it will say: "Commission-free trades available: 500" in the left corner under the "Trade" button , but above "Customize this page" link.
So really it is not really all the free trades you want if you can trade 500 times in 45 days. EDIT: Here is the SCREENSHOT |
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mothra0
- Happy Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 5:02p
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ETFnerd
- Happy Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 5:03p
does this appear after you funded the account. mine isn't funded yet, but I got client services to enable the promo. no such caption yet for my account. thanks in advance mothra0 |
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thisguy
- Senior Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 5:04p
Anyone know how long this offer is good for. I want to get in but will take some time to get the money moved around.
Thanks! |
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micecali
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 5:07p
Is it after you fund the account or before? I already opened my account but haven't fund it yet. I called in to check and they said it has the promotion code on it already but I still didn't see the 500 free trades like you have. |
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ETFnerd
- Happy Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 5:07p
thisguy said:Anyone know how long this offer is good for. I want to get in but will take some time to get the money moved around.
Thanks!Hav any bt checks laying around? Even if it's a low non-zero interest rate, you can pay it off if you only need a few days without much harm. Each 1% interest on your bt balance of $10K will cost you 27.4 cents/day. |
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mothra0
- Happy Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 5:12p
ETFnerd said:does this appear after you funded the account. mine isn't funded yet, but I got client services to enable the promo. no such caption yet for my account. thanks in advance mothra0
ETFnerd,
Not sure what funding option you picked, but I used the ACH option and my account was funded the second I logged into my account. I could trade immediately if I wanted to, but I signed up after trading hours. |
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mothra0
- Happy Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 5:19p
Also, if you actually want to use the account for more than the bonus like me, then the sweep account option maybe useful to you. It is called the "Total Asset Plan (TAP)" You have to fill out a form and fax it to them. I called and they emailed the PDF to me. I would link it but I have no hosting. |
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ETFnerd
- Happy Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 6:13p
mothra0 said:Also, if you actually want to use the account for more than the bonus like me, then the sweep account option maybe useful to you. It is called the "Total Asset Plan (TAP)" You have to fill out a form and fax it to them. I called and they emailed the PDF to me. I would link it but I have no hosting.Have we noticed that all of the funds in TAP found here:
http://ther.com/ReserveOnline/RSVYieldsHTML?info=yields
have total expense ratios AT OR OVER 100BPS!!! These are money market funds!!!
I recommend that you keep your money invested outside of TAP unless you have pending settlements. What a ripoff!!! |
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mothra0
- Happy Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 6:24p
ETFnerd said:]Have we noticed that all of the funds in TAP found here:
http://ther.com/ReserveOnline/RSVYieldsHTML?info=yields
have total expense ratios AT OR OVER 100BPS!!! These are money market funds!!!
I recommend that you keep your money invested outside of TAP unless you have pending settlements. What a ripoff!!!
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't get a chance to look at them yet. They don't payout very much. My Fidelity one is mid-4%. |
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ETFnerd
- Happy Member
posted: Apr. 26, 2006 @ 6:28p
you should expect a 4-5% return on the money markets today based on where the fed funds rate is today. A 100bp (1%) expense ratio means that you are paying the fund 20-25% of your total return.
In contrast SHY has a 30 day SEC yield of 4.84% and an expense ratio of 15bps. Therefore, here, you are only paying the fund 3% of your total return.
http://www.ishares.com/fund_info/detail.jhtml;jsessionid=2KI4XFWROSQQURJUMRFRBGSFGQ0BYD50?symbol=SHY
No genius portfolio manager is going to make up that gap in expenses without taking huge risks. |
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