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TD Ameritrade is running a promotion now where it seems fairly easy to get a nearly risk free $500. Sign up for a new account, fund it with at least $10,000 (that's the one big catch) and you get 45 days of free equity trades (online only). To qualify for the free $500, you must reach Apex status within the first 3 months of opening the account. This requires an average of 5 trades per month over a 3 month period. So, buy and sell 1 share of some stable dow industrial stock 15 times in a row one day (thus reaching your average of 5 per month for 3 months), the trades are free so at worst you lose a couple bucks from tiny minute by minute price changes. End result is a free $500 (minus a few dollar potential loss) and Apex status for the next 3 months which means you get free Level II quotes and some other goodies.

Check out details here:
http://www.tdameritrade.com/offer/apex.html?a=krw

Note: Ripped from SD. I haven't actually done this, but I don't see how they could refuse to honor it. The minimum share purchase may be higher than 1, but even at like 5 or 10, if you purchase a well known, non-volatile largecap stock that doesn't move much intraday, (example: C, KO, JNJ, etc) at the extreme the most you would probably stand to lose is on the order of $20-$30...still a good deal for $500.



Cool, but just a MINOR detail of LITTLE importance:

Your account must remain open with minimum funding for 9 months after $500 credit posts to account or TD AMERITRADE may charge the account for the cash awarded.


Too bad it's not valid if you already have an account open with them.


HKnight said: Cool, but just a MINOR detail of LITTLE importance:

Your account must remain open with minimum funding for 9 months after $500 credit posts to account or TD AMERITRADE may charge the account for the cash awarded.
Should be ok if there is a decent MM fund that you can go into. In that case, you can consider the $500 a 5% increased yield spread over the MM rate of return.


This is a fabulour offer and I just can't believe it is true, as I understand, they first give you free trades for 45 days then they give you $500 bonus, is that correct? I made 30 trades a months, so for me the bonus is actually 45 free trades + $500 on $10,000 in 3 months,after that,you can just keep $100 and withdraw your money.

I am an Ameritrade customer, but I am thinking to open such an account in my wife's name.


any comments?


Agree I have a tough time seeing a downside. Only trick is I've done the mine/spouse/joint accounts with amertrade. Nonetheless I closed my individual account a month ago and will probably try a new tdameritrade one.

One can certainly trade in and out of a short term bond etf - i'm too shy to say which one - with large volume and small spreads.

And for a frequent trader like qwe123 it sounds even better.

Sounds like the downside for me would be the spread on 5-10 trades over 45 days or so to see if the bonus posts. If it never does seems like the commishes will be free - tough to quantify but a tiny fraction of $500.


Note - this simpler one for $100 is still out there too:
http://www.tdameritrade.com/offer/100.html


sounds sweet
I can parlay this with my very first bt deal


Do you think it will it work if you were prev a Ameritrade customer 2-3 yrs ago?


Also could you put in a sweep therby getting 8%-9% over 9 months(with no risk).

I assume sweeps r free. Are mutual funds as well? It only says stock trades are $10 w/ no maint


The following is quoted from the offer terms and conditions, just can't figure it out what it means,anybody can clarify??

Feel like it is saying, U have to pay fees for data, don't know if it is true that I pay $0 if I don't subscribe any data, I can get it from elsewhere.....

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Access to real-time data is conditioned on your acceptance of the exchange agreements. Professional access differs. Professional subscribers that are not Apex-qualified can access real-time services for the following monthly fees: options quotes $32.25, NASDAQ Level I $20, NASDAQ Level II $50 (includes Level I data), AMEX quotes $43.80, NYSE quotes $127.25 and Streaming News $99. -->


qwe123 said: This is a fabulour offer and I just can't believe it is true, as I understand, they first give you free trades for 45 days then they give you $500 bonus, is that correct? I made 30 trades a months, so for me the bonus is actually 45 free trades + $500 on $10,000 in 3 months,after that,you can just keep $100 and withdraw your money.

I am an Ameritrade customer, but I am thinking to open such an account in my wife's name.


any comments?


I don't think you can get away by just keeping $100 in your account.

it says you have to keep the minimum, which is 10K.

"Allow 3-4 weeks after account reaches Apex status for $500 bonus to post to your account. Your account must remain open with ***minimum funding*** for 9 months after $500 credit posts..."


Your wife can open an account on her name.
And you can open another joint account with your siblings or parents or someone you can trust.


Does the minimum funding requirement include the value of your portfolio? i.e. $10,000 including the 15 etfs?


dealmania said:
I don't think you can get away by just keeping $100 in your account.

U are right, verbiage says you have to keep $10,000 for 9 months, Ameritrade offes a 3.5% apy money market account as settlement account, i.e, you keep your $10,000 there 9 months earning 3.5% apy,not bad.


And - at least in general - brokerage bonuses are not taxable. Or to be more specific I've never gotten a 1099 on them.


"Offer is not transferable and not valid for IRAs, internal transfers, current TD AMERITRADE clients, or with other offers. Limit one offer per client."

I think this means you can't do this if you already have an account. For example If I have a joint account, I can't open an individual account. Am I wrong?


A stupid question.
What does $10K balance mean?
Do we need to have a $10K cash balance in the account?
Or a combined balance with the value of the stocks we have purcahsed?
If the later, what if the stocks invested in, lose their value and your net worth goes below $10K?


Raven1 said: "Offer is not transferable and not valid for IRAs, internal transfers, current TD AMERITRADE clients, or with other offers. Limit one offer per client."

I think this means you can't do this if you already have an account. For example If I have a joint account, I can't open an individual account. Am I wrong?


Rules are up to tdameritrade - not a bunch of timewasters on FW. Still in past ameritrade promos I've had no trouble getting bonues for individual accounts and joint accounts with the same names, etc.

YMMV. And sadly although you can call and ask, ultimately you won't know till the bonus comes in.


What do they charge you to close the account?
A lot of stock brokers will charge you to close your account.


welookgoodcom said: Also could you put in a sweep therby getting 8%-9% over 9 months(with no risk).

Please tell me where you are getting 8-9% risk free!


Thanks OP. This is really interesting.

After the 3 months, can I move the money to a TD MM and still qualify for the offer or do the funds have to stay in stock account? Also, after the 3 months, do we have to do anything for nine months to remain "active?"


Can I fund this with my Roth savings?


OLEOLEOLEO said: welookgoodcom said: Also could you put in a sweep therby getting 8%-9% over 9 months(with no risk).

Please tell me where you are getting 8-9% risk free!

Simply.. U get a $500 bonus. That's 5%


Add a 3.5% MM acct and u get about 8.7%


Hmmm...it seems like the $$ will need to be committed for about a year. Three months + to get Apex status, and then 9 more months afterwards. Also, if you hate extra tax work...keep in mind that you will have to track all of your activity (short term gain/losses) on your tax return.


BeerMeNow said: Hmmm...it seems like the $$ will need to be committed for about a year. Three months + to get Apex status, and then 9 more months afterwards. Also, if you hate extra tax work...keep in mind that you will have to track all of your activity (short term gain/losses) on your tax return.maybe if you put the beer down, it won't be so difficult to scratch your ***.



phoebez said: What do they charge you to close the account?
A lot of stock brokers will charge you to close your account.


$50 for regular accounrs.
$25 for IRA accounts.


Azurik said: phoebez said: What do they charge you to close the account?
A lot of stock brokers will charge you to close your account.


$50 for regular accounrs.
$25 for IRA accounts.


No charge if you close after 9 months.


the best way to keep the 10k in the account would probably be to pick out two high-grade closed end tax-free bond funds with low fees trading at a decent discount. Should yield 5-6% with hardly any risk.


In the fine print:

"To qualify for the $500 APEX bonus, your TD AMERITRADE account must have an average of 5 trades per month or $100,000 total account value in the first three months."

So EITHER average 5 trades per month or $100,000 total account value?

scratch....maybe that person meant $100K in MMA, that's hot too.

scratch again...sorry that wouldn't be so hot.


you use the 45 free trades to do 15 trades in day 1. Then you average 5 trades/mth on the first 3 months. On day 2 you shift everything to MM fund. You should actually do 16 trades because you want to buy and sell the same security simultaneously 8 times.

scratch...you buy and sell the same security simultaneously 7 times and you use your 15th trade (still on day one) to buy the MM fund.


Raven1 said: "Offer is not transferable and not valid for IRAs, internal transfers, current TD AMERITRADE clients, or with other offers. Limit one offer per client."

I think this means you can't do this if you already have an account. For example If I have a joint account, I can't open an individual account. Am I wrong?


yes you are


I'm confused about the verbage:

"Qualified commission-free Internet equity orders must execute within 45 days of qualifying account funding."

Although this offer comes with free equity orders, you are not limited to equity orders to qualify for Apex and can do bond or ETF orders to qualify? How about t-bills?

Glad I procrastinated, better deal than miles


theCompDude said: A stupid question.
What does $10K balance mean?
Do we need to have a $10K cash balance in the account?
Or a combined balance with the value of the stocks we have purcahsed?
If the later, what if the stocks invested in, lose their value and your net worth goes below $10K?


Got this clarified with a CSR.
The $10K balance is the total account worth. Includes the equities, etc. you are invested in.
In case the equities go below $10K, it is still ok.
You will not be dinged by them, as long as you do not make a lot of withdrawals from the account.


ETFnerd said: BeerMeNow said: Hmmm...it seems like the $$ will need to be committed for about a year. Three months + to get Apex status, and then 9 more months afterwards. Also, if you hate extra tax work...keep in mind that you will have to track all of your activity (short term gain/losses) on your tax return.maybe if you put the beer down, it won't be so difficult to scratch your ***.Finally, something we agree on


ETFnerd said: BeerMeNow said: Hmmm...it seems like the $$ will need to be committed for about a year. Three months + to get Apex status, and then 9 more months afterwards. Also, if you hate extra tax work...keep in mind that you will have to track all of your activity (short term gain/losses) on your tax return.maybe if you put the beer down, it won't be so difficult to scratch your ***.

Did I say something that was not factual? Im off to get another beer.


ETFnerd said: you use the 45 free trades to do 15 trades in day 1. Then you average 5 trades/mth on the first 3 months. On day 2 you shift everything to MM fund. You should actually do 16 trades because you want to buy and sell the same security simultaneously 8 times.

scratch...you buy and sell the same security simultaneously 7 times and you use your 15th trade (still on day one) to buy the MM fund.


If you make 1 round trip trades each for 5 consecutive days, you are considered a daytrader. You will be
subject to daytrader rules, which is you need to maintain $25000 account value min. daily, I think.


You can.

I had an individual account and was trying to get Starwood Points by opening a new account. They told me that I have to open new account that is of different type - like Joint account Account Types

But finally, they offered me the points without opening a new type of account when I threatend to take my money to Fidelity!


Raven1 said: "Offer is not transferable and not valid for IRAs, internal transfers, current TD AMERITRADE clients, or with other offers. Limit one offer per client."

I think this means you can't do this if you already have an account. For example If I have a joint account, I can't open an individual account. Am I wrong?


AbbaZabba said: the best way to keep the 10k in the account would probably be to pick out two high-grade closed end tax-free bond funds with low fees trading at a decent discount. Should yield 5-6% with hardly any risk.

Love CEFs at a discount, really do. But there is a lot more risk than that.

If you need the 10k back I'd stick with short term bond funds - I'm still too SHY to mention which one. Is verrrry liquid though and yielding about 4% - and should be state tax free.


Azurik said: phoebez said: What do they charge you to close the account?
A lot of stock brokers will charge you to close your account.


$50 for regular accounrs.
$25 for IRA accounts.


That's for transfers out, close the account and get cash there is no fee - last I checked.

Very few brokers charge any fees in this scenario.


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