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I'm looking for strategies for maximizing my income. My paycheck is direct deposited into my local bank's checking account. Some of my bills accept check only (mortgage, water, sewer, electricity, gym, natural gas), and other bills I can pay with a credit card (telephone/internet, auto insurance). I also have a paypal debit card (1% CashBack, which I use for everything other then gas and groceries) and a Chase Mastercard Cash Plus Rewards (5% on gas and groceries).

So what I was thinking is when my paycheck is direct deposited, transfer it to my paypal account (which has the money market fund (currently 4.73%)) to it, and my local bank's checking account has no minimum amount requirements. Then as my bills that only take checks come up, transfer money back to my checking account and write the checks. Continue to use my paypal and chase cards as usual and pay the chase off in the grace period to avoid interest.

Then at the end of the month, which whatever money I have left over, transfer it back to my checking account and then into HSBC online savings (4.8%).

I know people have hesitations about putting money into paypal, but I've never had a problem with them, and I don't buy stuff on eBay.

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Why not just have the money direct deposited into a money market checking account with a bank and save all the paypal hassles (and there are many).

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why don't you transfer your paycheck first to hsbc? the hsbc online savings has free ach transfers in and out, but they are slow.

does your local bank have free online billpay? otherwise, get the hsbc free checking account and pay your checks using theirs.

p.s. glad to see you're one of the few people with no paypal problems. me too, and i do a lot of stuff with them.

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What you're saying makes sense and plenty of people bank that way, however I think you're going to find it a pain to be checking all the time to see if your money from your transfers cleared. You didn't say how much money you're talking about in your paycheck, but for example, lets say it is $5000. Even if that money would be in the high interest account for the whole month you're only talking $20 interest less tax. So you need to decide if that is worth it.

I don't have an HSBC checking account, but i'm assuming that transfers between that and their online savings account is fast. If that is the case then opening a checking account there would be a better option for what you want to do. You can always transfer some extra money to your local account for ATM withdrawals, etc.

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a) Paypal is a titanic pain for transferring money back and forth. The transactions can take quite a while to clear, and the money "disappears" from both accounts during those couple of days. Not recommended for tight management. (their money market yield is nice though).

b) MBNA credit cards have a bill pay which might allow a few more of your bills to be paid with a credit card (no CashBack or points or anything).

So, if you can work out quicker transfers to/from a higher yield account (either within same institution or with other) or just find a checking account with absurdly high interest (Presidential), that would give you an incremental bonus... basically of what your usual balance is in the checking account.

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paypal bank transfers in and out take 2-3 days (make a transfer on Monday, see the money on Wednesday or Thursday).


presidential checking plus might be good for you:

4.50% APY on balances up to $25,000
minimum to open $1500, minimum balance to avoid monthly fees $1000
account requires an electronic monthly deposit of $200 or more from payroll, annuity, pension, or a business account

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Simple: direct deposit straight to a Presidential savings or checking account (http://www.fatwallet.com/t/52/473281). Use presidential billpay to pay bills. Keep a free local account to deposit checks and use ACH to transfer money to Presidential.

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The concern you should have is the tranfer time. I'm hesitant about opening an ING account for this very reason.

This is what I went with the Citibank e-Savings and Citibank checking account. The eSavings account is pretty competitive in terms of interest rate. In addition, I can transfer funds between the two accounts instantaneously.

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opmnxtc said:why don't you transfer your paycheck first to hsbc? the hsbc online savings has free ach transfers in and out, but they are slow.

does your local bank have free online billpay? otherwise, get the hsbc free checking account and pay your checks using theirs.

p.s. glad to see you're one of the few people with no paypal problems. me too, and i do a lot of stuff with them.


The HSBC Online Savings is limited to 6 withdrawals a month (and I need more then that for my checks, CC payment, etc). My local bank has online billpay, but its slow (5 days before they mail out the bill payment, and money sitting in my checking account gets no interest). If I put my paycheck into the HSBC Checking account, I wouldn't get interest on it, whereas with paypal I get 4.73%.

For the person recommending the 4.5% checking account, I don't like that you have to keep a minimum balance and they have a large opening requirement.

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i see what you're saying.

so you basically want an account with a high interest rate, no opening and no minimum balance reqs, unlimited withdrawals, and fast transfers in and out to other accounts free.

hmmm...

i don't think this account exists yet.

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Use citibank ez-checking and ez-savings account. Direct deposit to your Citi savings account and pour money as needed to your checking account. You will get .05% less interest compared to HSBC, but a lot less hassel IMO.

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sensia said:Use citibank ez-checking and ez-savings account. Direct deposit to your Citi savings account and pour money as needed to your checking account. You will get .05% less interest compared to HSBC, but a lot less hassel IMO.

Citi's online savings has the same problem as HSBC...limited to 6 withdrawals a month. so putting it into the savings and transferring to checking as needed wouldn't work.

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Squeezer99 said:sensia said:Use citibank ez-checking and ez-savings account. Direct deposit to your Citi savings account and pour money as needed to your checking account. You will get .05% less interest compared to HSBC, but a lot less hassel IMO.

Citi's online savings has the same problem as HSBC...limited to 6 withdrawals a month. so putting it into the savings and transferring to checking as needed wouldn't work.

If you do your transfers from a Citibank ATM, there is no limit.

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opmnxtc said:i see what you're saying.

so you basically want an account with a high interest rate, no opening and no minimum balance reqs, unlimited withdrawals, and ability to transfer in and out to other accounts free.

hmmm...

i don't think this account exists yet.


and i'd also like them to have a local branch office. everybody can dream, right?

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What you described is only "managing your income."

Maximizing your income would be a lot broader such as career enhancement, added rental income.

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zoop76 said:Squeezer99 said:
If you do your transfers from a Citibank ATM, there is no limit.


Citibank has no ATM's here. One of the problems living in Jackson, Mississippi is that there are no big banks here, only local and regional bank offices and ATMs.

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how about this:

this seems to me the easiest and quickest method that would work alongside your current setup.

get a line of credit at your local bank. ask them if they will not charge interest unless you have a balance at the end of the next statement, or charge any fees when you use it. so when you need to write checks, transfer money from that credit line to your checking account. then pay the balance by transferring money from paypal to your checking account and then to your line of credit.

otherwise, just get a normal line of credit, use it as above, and then pay the balance off as above asap to minimize the fees and interest charged daily.

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Squeezer99 said:
For the person recommending the 4.5% checking account, I don't like that you have to keep a minimum balance and they have a large opening requirement.


Presidential checking Plus
Min. to open $1500.
Min. to avoid Service charge $1000.


I'd be more worried about building up a bit of savings than $20 in interest/year.

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Ok rather than negate the Citibank option right away how about doing something similar to what I do. I have multiple accounts with Citi for one, including two of the esavings which are currently at 4.75% and I pay no fees at all. (depends how much $ you have with them)


My check is deposited into my checking account. From there I transfer all of my funds around. Some of my bills are paid through cc in order to rack up bonuses. Those which are, I just tally up the amount and pay my cc from that checking account (through Citi's online payment system.) The amount which is going into savings I transfer into one of my citi 4.75% accounts. I do keep about $100 in a regular savings/mm account between paychecks, in case I need any cash. This way, all bills are paid right away, and my max amount of cash can go towards savings. Sticking with one bank has been easier for me and less loss of float time. Of course this isn't for everyone, but for me it works.

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