If it were up to us, I think everyone in the world would be driving 10-year-old beaters that we bought off eBay. So, my question is, is there EVER a valid FINANCIAL reason to buy a brand new car? Some possibilities:
* Any business reasons? * Any legal reasons? * Any investment reasons? * Warranty? * Financial incentives such as GM/Ford's employee pricing promotion?
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It comes down to personal preference. For example, I bought a new 2006 Mustang. I wanted the newer style and yes, there are used Mustangs out there that were cheaper. However, with the factory discounts I was getting, my new Mustang was only $500 than a used Mustang. Why? Because the demand for used Mustangs was so great that the price on them was close to buying a new Mustang. So yes I spent $500 or so more when I went with the new Mustang, but I have a new vehicle that doesnt have 10000+ miles in the first year.
Now if the savings of going used were well in the thousands, I would be getting a used vehicle in a second.
Great question, as I usually buy new cars, and always feel a little stupid becasue I know its a loser financially. Im hoping to hear valid reasons so I can feel OK about my next one!
ogmaster said:Because the demand for used Mustangs was so great that the price on them was close to buying a new Mustang.Actually, the lowered price of the new Mustangs has decreased demand on those a few years old.
my pops is a fan of buying used, but when he was looking for his most recent car, a saturn, he was able to get 0% financing for 5 years on it, so he couldnt help but go new. he probably would have paid in full otherwise, but with the 0% financing he felt pretty good about using it elsewhere in the mean time which brought the car at least down to a used price.
I was in this boat this time last year. Though I dont have to drive too far to get to work, I decided that I would much rather spend on a new car than go for a used one. My wanted to drive a car that was good on gas mileage (68 mpg vindicates that decision) and has a lot of other built-in features (GPS, MP3 player) that I dont have to spend on to get into a 15 year old car if at all possible.
But it all boils down to what one can really spend on a car and whether they really need it.
Alcibiades said:ogmaster said:Because the demand for used Mustangs was so great that the price on them was close to buying a new Mustang.Actually, the lowered price of the new Mustangs has decreased demand on those a few years old.
Actually I screwed up. The demand for the used mustangs with the new body type(2005-2006) is very high thus the price on them is always high regardless of the thousands of miles on it.
Bry said: So, my question is, is there EVER a valid FINANCIAL reason to buy a brand new car?
Yes. From 2002-2005, GM offered crazy incentives at times. Coupled with the maximum rebate on the "old" GM Card, you could have walked away with a brand new Chevy Cavaliar for around $3,500 including tax and tags. Offers haven't been as generous as of late. Hopefully there will be a few good deals around when my 13 year vehicle cycle runs it's course. 13 year old vehicles exude thriftyness. 15 year old ones just scream CHEAP. Don't become another UKS!
If you are a conservative driver who practices common-sense tips to minimize wear-and-tear, you are likely to get more trouble-free miles of driving from a brand-new car than a pre-owned car.
With a pre-owned car, there is a possibility you are buying something driven by a driver (or drivers) who put more wear-and-tear on the car than is evident from the odometer reading. Let's face it: unless you are buying from a personal acquaintance whose driving habits you are well-acquainted with, a pre-owned car could well have been used by a driver (or drivers) are much more aggressive at lane-changes, jack-rabbit starts, jam-on-the-brakes stops, etc. Bad habits create premature wear and tear on the car's suspension, struts, steering, transmission, etc. in ways not always readily detectable (particularly if the car has, say, 30,000 miles or less on it. You can end up with some surprisingly steep repair bills.
With a brand-new car, you should have no risk of a "laundered" vehicle title. Not all states participate in Carfax, each of the 50 states has different registration and title systems, there are still a lot of flood-damaged and insurance-totalled vehicles which end up being unscrupulously restored and resurrected with a fraudulent title and brought onto the used car marketplace. Most of the time, these frauds are astonishingly well done..until a few months down the road, when an accident happens and you find the air bags don't deploy or the car's frame had pre-existing, hidden structural damage.
With a brand-new car, you generally have a sharp rate of depreciation. This cost may be somewhat reduced if you are an aggressive price shopper.
With a used car, if you don't do your homework on the true marketplace values, you can end up over-paying even more than with a used car. Car dealers generally make much fatter profit margins on used cars than new cars, particularly since used-car buyers are more likely to purchase over-priced "warranty protection" schemes which may largely eat up the "savings" of buying a used vehicle!
With a brand-new car, you'll generally pay higher insurance costs, particularly if you finance the purchase.
With a used car, you may have lower insurance costs than a new car. However, you must be very careful to avoid long-term financing since you will have some routine maintenance and repair items on your used car (i.e. on most cars, the timing belt replacement must be performed every 60,000 miles and is a fairly labor-intensive procedure).
Your Mileage May Vary. There are many good arguments for buying used cars, but one thing cannot be overlooked: a huge number of used cars are "dumped" from rental-car and corporate fleets with about 30,000 to 40,000 miles, for a reason. Those used cars get much heavier wear-and-tear than a single-owner, single-driver used car from someone you know in your local community.
Yes. If you earn enough money an hour, purchasing a used car is not going to be worth the opportunity cost of the lost time. In the same line, a new car is (hypothetically, at least) going to be more reliable and take less attention. YMMV here.
Also, some cars really retain value. Buying a used car makes more sense financially when the price drops dramatically in the first year or two of use. (Think crapy american cars ) If you are buying a high quality car that you are planning to use for a long period of time, it may be worth it to buy new and keep it well maintained. While this thread is supposed to only focus on financial reasons, the main factor behind all financial decision is personal gratification and satisfaction. It is nice to buy a good car new and enjoying it. If you buy a good one, it may even last long enough to justify the sticker price...
Tax deductions. You hit the lotto and feel like splurging. You have lived a long and prosperous FW life and feel like being a skinny wallet for once. Seriously though, a non-collectible car is a depreciating asset.
If it were up to us, I think everyone in the world would be driving 10-year-old beaters that we bought off eBay. So, my question is, is there EVER a valid FINANCIAL reason to buy a brand new car? Some possibilities:
* Any business reasons? * Any legal reasons? * Any investment reasons? * Warranty? * Financial incentives such as GM/Ford's employee pricing promotion? Employee Price Promos are not enough reason for me. They would have to be combined with another reason.
slimcustomer said: 13 year old vehicles exude thriftyness. 15 year old ones just scream CHEAP. Don't become another UKS!
I'll have you know I had them replace that bad power steering pump. So it's stopped screaming. For now.
Besides, do you realize how easy it is to merge into traffic when you're driving a car whose body work openly shows you see driving as a contact sport?
Maybe I would if the price after haggling, rebates, and incentives was less than a comparable model that was off a 3-year lease? That can be pretty tough to find. Then again, I don't buy cars often...and the ones I've had were all used.
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