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crazyapps said:ok, well I submitted about 35 apps today.

Now that's what I'm talkin' about !!!!


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Crazyapps: Please let us know the results.

Message edited by: duna on 2007-04-13 19:56:44 CDT
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kiasuchick said:I'm in an AOR holding pattern right now. Would appreciate some help if anyone has any thoughts.

My current stats:

HHI: $93k
TrueCredit FAKO: TU790/Ex796/Eq796
Total CL: $142,400
Total Revolving Debt: $4,200
Total Revolving Util: 2.95%

Total TrueCredit Debt: $9,763
Total TrueCredit Util: 6.86%

Citi Business Card CL: $4,800
Citi Business Card Debt: $3,090
Citi Business Card Util: 64.38%

Total Installment Debt (Student Loan): $7,937

INQUIRIES:
CITI 03/03/2007 TransUnion
CITI 02/26/2007 TransUnion
CITI/CBSD 06/17/2006 TransUnion
CITIBANK N.A 04/10/2006 TransUnion
VISA/FDSB 12/28/2005 Experian
BANK OF AMERICA 10/11/2005 Experian

1. Should I pay off the Citi business card to $0 if I wish to apply for another CitiBusiness card?
2. Should I pay off all my revolving debt or pay down a little more and just wait for TrueCredit to begin reporting a low utilization like 1-2%?
3. I was an idiot and request CLI on my CitiBusiness and Citi Dividend card without realizing there was a hard pull. Should I scrap AOR until another 6 months has passed/or bumpage given I have two recent pulls?

ARGH. This is driving me nuts!


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For me it took something like 2 months or more of daily hits to start affecting inquiries. I knocked all Transunion and I think I have one Equifax left. You cant knock experian inqs this way.

Rob


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so - there's ALOT of info in this thread, but what kind of credit scores do you guys have after these AOR's?

i just don't see how people are 'making money' by acquiring credit cards...

I've always been under the impression that you have 2-3 cards, and keep open only what you need - otherwise it's detrimental to your credit score... I have PRIME A credit score, payoff my cards each month, and have about $100k in CC limits

Message edited by: Toadster on 2007-04-14 11:15:10 CDT
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Toadster said:so - there's ALOT of info in this thread, but what kind of credit scores do you guys have after these AOR's?

i just don't see how people are 'making money' by acquiring credit cards...

I've always been under the impression that you have 2-3 cards, and keep open only what you need - otherwise it's detrimental to your credit score... I have PRIME A credit score, payoff my cards each month, and have about $100k in CC limits


Money isn't made by acquiring the credit cards, but by using (e.g. investing) the balance transfer (BT) money they offer at 0%. Read the first post in this thread if you haven't already.

Yes, your credit score will drop, but by how much depends how on agressive or passive you are, and how you manage the new credit card accounts you have. It probably makes sense to read the first post in this thread: FatWallet Forums - FAQ + discussion GETTING, KEEPING high credit - FICO scores. Glossary, data points, utilization, etc.

While there are many other threads that are very informational, it might also make sense to read a few of the recent AOR threads, which are updated regularly, by Cyberkost, Unbelieevable, Pakaderm and myself...probably makes sense to read some older ones as well to get a longer term perspective. They are linked in the Quick Summary of this thread and many of us have updated the first post of our threads to reflect the credit score (FAKO) changes over time.


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Toadster said:so - there's ALOT of info in this thread, but what kind of credit scores do you guys have after these AOR's?

i just don't see how people are 'making money' by acquiring credit cards...

I've always been under the impression that you have 2-3 cards, and keep open only what you need - otherwise it's detrimental to your credit score... I have PRIME A credit score, payoff my cards each month, and have about $100k in CC limits


Also, your credit score will bounce back pretty quickly after you repay your 0% (or whatever) loans at the end of the loan period (unless of course you find another 0% deal to roll them into)....then you can wait a few months and do another even larger AOR !! As long as you don't start missing the minimum payments, etc, you shouldn't do any long-term damage to your credit score and may even end up with higher scores at the end since you'll have more credit history and higher unused CL's when all is said and done.

If you just want to print out your credit score once a year and frame it and hang it on your wall, fine, but if you want to use it to actually make some money, come on over to AORville !


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jimbocobb said:out your credit score once a year and frame it and hang it on your wall, fine, but if you want to use it to actually make some money, come on over to AORville !

so if you mean 'make money' by 'paying less on loaned money' i'm not on board... lent money is money you have to pay back - right?

nobody is 'making money' with 0% loans - they're just borrowing smartly


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Toadster, borrow the money at 0%, take it to a nice bank which pays 5% or better. That is making money not paying less for borrowed funds. Yes, you have to make regular payments to the issuer but since you've never spent the money you're just sending it back to them. It's debateable whether it will ever have to be paid back. My foster dollar balances in my accounts has been increasing since 1998. Yes, I have to pay back issuer A but issuer B always seems to have even more unwanted dollars than I had been taking care of for issuer A. People have been predicting the end of the 0% game for years now and it only seems more available and for longer time periods than ever before to me. It really does get to be a chore caring for all these unwanted dollars, but I love each and every one as if it were my very own.

Message edited by: WalStMonky on 2007-04-15 02:17:46 CDT
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WalStMonky said:Toadster, borrow the money at 0%, take it to a nice bank which pays 5% or better. That is making money not paying less for borrowed funds. Yes, you have to make regular payments to the issuer but since you've never spent the money you're just sending it back to them. It's debateable whether it will ever have to be paid back. My foster dollar balances in my accounts has been increasing since 1998. Yes, I have to pay back issuer A but issuer B always seems to have even more unwanted dollars than I had been taking care of for issuer A. People have been predicting the end of the 0% game for years now and it only seems more available and for longer time periods than ever before to me. It really does get to be a chore caring for all these unwanted dollars, but I love each and every one as if it were my very own.

ahhhhh - now i get it! it all comes down to solid tracking and good payment schedules then

very cool!


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>> nobody is 'making money' with 0% loans - they're just borrowing smartly

My goal is $1000/month in interest income from my 0% CC "loans"....I call that "making money" !!

Have some in 6% 15-month CD's, have some in 5%+ money-market accounts, etc.....pretty much the same thing that WalStMonky said....

Message edited by: jimbocobb on 2007-04-15 13:40:06 CDT
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WalStMonky said:Jobus said:I think I made a huge mistake.
I thought 5.05apy (4.93 rate) meant that for every $100 invested your monthly return is $4.93 I checked various online savings/intrest calcultoars and they only show my return at the end of the year being 1/12 of what I expected. I haven't come across any kind of forum or post with this problem. I even called up the bank offering me this rate and they said the return would be similar (1/12th) of what I expected.

So savings intrest rates are not rate/30*amount for one month but are in fact
rate/360*amount for one month? can someone help me please as there is quite a large amount of money on the line.....


You grew up in South America didn't you? Italy?


no why do you say that though?


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devildoc said:Jobus said:can someone help me please as there is quite a large amount of money on the line.....

How much money are we talking about anyway?



31,000
I think I may look at prosper instead.


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Message edited by: kiasuchick on 2007-07-25 23:08:20 CDT
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jimbocobb said:>> nobody is 'making money' with 0% loans - they're just borrowing smartly

My goal is $1000/month in interest income from my 0% CC "loans"....I call that "making money" !!

Have some in 6% 15-month CD's, have some in 5%+ money-market accounts, etc.....pretty much the same thing that WalStMonky said....


so what's your takehome pay from the taxed interest?


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I was just poking around the internet to see if my now ex-company's credit card was still available.

Lo and behind I found this link: linky

Yahoo! Titanium Card -- 0%/12 mths/ max. $50 bt fee

Does anyone know if Chase(FirstUSA) still honour this card? I'm surprised to see the application appears to be live. How come it's not listed on any of the AOR threads? The other Chase cards appear to be $75 max. BT fee.


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Do payments made only a few days overdue end up on your credit report as late payments? Or is it only payments late by 30 days or more that get reported late?

Until today, I haven't had a late CC payment in many years. So Ive forgotten. But I just realized I messed up one of my scheduled AOR payments, and missed the due date by 4 days. I immediately paid off the $5K owed on the card, since I've lost the 0% interest rate.

Will this get reported to my credit report as a late payment?

Message edited by: revheck on 2007-04-16 15:13:44 CDT
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revheck said:Do payments made only a few days overdue end up on your credit report as late payments? Or is it only payments late by 30 days or more that get reported late?

Until today, I haven't had a late CC payment in many years. So Ive forgotten. But I just realized I messed up one of my scheduled AOR payments, and missed the due date by 4 days. I immediately paid off the $5K owed on the card, since I've lost the 0% interest rate.

Will this get reported to my credit report as a late payment?

Usually not. Call the credit card company, give them a sob story, the CSR will usually waive the late fee and not report it late. 0% is gone though.


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for those of you getting AMEX cards, since most of them waive the annual fee for the first year, do you just use them for the first year for their 0% 12 month BTs and/or credit limits, and then right before a year is up, close them so you won't get an annual fee on the 13th month statement?


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What happens to the credit score if I do an AOR with out using the BT. I just want to increase my credit line, wait 6 months and do a huge aor.

Is it true that for each cc inquiry it will drop 3 to 5 points, but that only will count against you for six months or a year ?

so if i apply for 10 cards is 30 to 50 points drop ???


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