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DaveHanson
- Senior Member - 6K
posted: Oct. 5, 2006 @ 2:37p
scott1961 said:He called me back today and offered me $50k and I told him I was looking for what the letter said, $100k. I had 2 other fairly new MBNA cards with $29,900 total limit and after some more talking he said if I closed those 2 he would give me the $100k Limit. I know closing those cards is not the best thing but I wanted a card with a $100k limit. Dave here is another data point for you, He told me my $315,000 of total income put me in the $50k limit range, But my savings accounts got me the extra boost. So my hat's off to you guys who have $100k+ on a cardCongrats Scott! Excellent info too.
FWIW, I think you probably made the right call, even from a credit score/credit line perspective. Getting that massive limit will open the door to plenty of other offers. While your average age will drop slightly, that will be more than offset by the benefits of this large line and its resultant lower utilization.
Now I just want to know how someone in (semi?)-retirement can document a $300K+ income. Talk about "hat's off"...  |
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RS4Rings
- Senior Member - 7K
posted: Oct. 5, 2006 @ 2:52p
DaveHanson said:
Now I just want to know how someone in (semi?)-retirement can document a $300K+ income. Talk about "hat's off"...  Not even semi-retired yet, Still putting in 60+ hrs a week, Will probably work till I drop, just knowing I could retire and sit on a beach keeps me going. Work is definitely a lot more fun and less pressure when you know you don't really have too. |
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DaveHanson
- Senior Member - 6K
posted: Oct. 5, 2006 @ 2:55p
OT--Gotcha Scott. I must have inferred from your stuff on looking into keeping what you've made that you were now simply making your pile grow. Pretty cool that you could do a job you love that pays that well at 60+ hours/week and still educate yourself in places like FWF. |
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RS4Rings
- Senior Member - 7K
posted: Oct. 5, 2006 @ 3:02p
Helps that I own the company. If I retired wife would make me help with kid and around the house and limit my computer time, So I need to work so I can search for bank deals and post on FW all day. |
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dbalkunjr
- Addicted Member
posted: Oct. 6, 2006 @ 9:30a
I have been lurking here for quite a while and I think this is probably my first post. I just wanted to share with you that I did get an offer from an MBNA rep while activating our two AAA PLatinum Plus cards. The rep said "I see you have quite a positive history with us...yada yada...You have a generous credit line also. Do you have any projects coming up that you might want to take advantage of a Balance transfer? (or Was it Cash advance he said?) I can route it direct to your checking account." I inquired as to the terms which were 1.99% for 6 months. I kind of winced. The rep then said "How about .99% for 8 months." I was now paying better attention. I made him verify terms and the BT fee was 3% up to $75 max. I almost pulled the trigger on 30K...even went as far as to give them my bank info when I realized that I was not sure how this would look on my credit report as I am listed as AU on this card and I am planning an AOR in the next two weeks. So yes they do give money away waving the 3% fee just the $75 fee. a little off topic but can anyone tell me if this would have showed up on my credit report as well? I assume so but have not come across a 100% concrete answer...that is why I walked away from that offer. |
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DaveHanson
- Senior Member - 6K
posted: Oct. 6, 2006 @ 10:18a
dbalkunjr said: I made him verify terms and the BT fee was 3% up to $75 max. I almost pulled the trigger on 30K...even went as far as to give them my bank info when I realized that I was not sure how this would look on my credit report as I am listed as AU on this card and I am planning an AOR in the next two weeks. So yes they do give money away waving the 3% fee just the $75 fee.First, they never should have even offered this deal to an AU, only the primary or joint cardholder. Are you sure this was your status? a little off topic but can anyone tell me if this would have showed up on my credit report as well? I assume so but have not come across a 100% concrete answer...that is why I walked away from that offer.If the card shows up on your credit report at all (likely), then the new balance (including the BT and fee) would be reported once the billing cycle closed. |
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dbalkunjr
- Addicted Member
posted: Oct. 6, 2006 @ 10:38a
I just verified on my credit protector profile that I am listed as AU. To clarify this, they(MBNA Rep)did make me answer a security question...the old "What is your wife's Mother's maiden name?". I was actually surprised by this as well. That they let me make decisions for the account. I am going to call MBNA back after I do my AOR and inquire to see if I can still get this deal and also inquire as to whether my wife authorized me to speak on her behalf at some earlier date(we have moved a lot of money thru them over the past few years.) |
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luvdeals
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 6, 2006 @ 10:54a
MBNA seems a little odd when it comes to AU--at least if they are a spouse. My DH was an AU on my MBNA card and when he applied for one of his own, he got a really low limit which I thought was odd. A letter came in the mail saying that they noticed he already had an account with them with a high limit and that they were only able to grant him a small limit on his new card, but that he could call to reallocate. I called MBNA to confirm that he was only an AU on my account and they did confirm that, but also said I could reallocate to his card. |
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dbalkunjr
- Addicted Member
posted: Oct. 6, 2006 @ 11:01a
In that case I will not hold my breath for anything big from MBNA when I do my AOR. |
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dbalkunjr
- Addicted Member
posted: Oct. 6, 2006 @ 11:12a
Right now the wife and I have a 3 cards where she is the primary and I am the AU. One of the accounts is a Chase Platinum w/ 14K limit. She also has two other chase cards with 23K and 25K limits. I am trying to figure out how I can use this to my advantage to build larger credit limits on new card apps in my AOR.
1.) I can have her reallocate everything but 1k on each of the other 2 cards to the account where I am AU. I figure this will show up on my credit profile as AU on an account with a CL of 60k. At that point I would hope that this and other three accounts that I have that have CL of about 15K will help in giving me a better chance at larger lines when I do my AOR. This would also allow me to use a Chase BT check for say 55k or so which I will use to launder money from my AOR while only paying a single $75 fee for the convenience which I would pay back within a statement period.(I realize that there are other ways to launder the money without getting hit for that extra $75 fee, but to be able to take care of 55K of my goal to get 100k in BT money @ <50% utilization on any card with no hassle at all is worth it to me.)
Other option would be..
2.) Keep the 3 accounts as they are. Use the BT checks on wife's two individual accounts as well as our joint account to launder the money. This will cost $75x3 so it definitely is an added expense to the AOR. The reasoning for this option would be a more favorable limits from chase on the 3 cards I am applying for during the AOR.
In the long run do you think the second method will have a bigger payoff later on since I will be establishing my own credit with Chase that I can then employ the above tactics to increase my own individual lines? Also which will have a better result overall druing this AOR. Sacrifice approvals from Chase or higher limits from the other 15 CC issuers I am applying with? |
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DaveHanson
- Senior Member - 6K
posted: Oct. 6, 2006 @ 11:21a
dbalkunjr said:The reasoning for this option would be a more favorable limits from chase on the 3 cards I am applying for during the AOR.I'm pretty tired today so that might have gone by me, but I don't see why option #2 would give you "more favorable limits from chase." No matter how high that AU card is, it shouldn't hurt your getting cards in from them in your own right. |
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dbalkunjr
- Addicted Member
posted: Oct. 6, 2006 @ 11:37a
That was more speculation and questioning than any fact. Just trying to play out scenarios before I follow thru. Your opinion that it shouldn't affect it is probably made from experience...of which I have little in this game. Thanks for the input. |
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davef139
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Oct. 6, 2006 @ 10:20p
ok so ilogged into my citi account to drop a payment. I noticed on 2 of my cards that are newish I apped in May/June and doing some 0% BT. Anywho i noticed they riased my limited this month from 6300 to 8900 and 3800 to 5300 does this seem normal after only 4-5months of being a member? and having both cards near 80% utilzation? |
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Grifman
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 6, 2006 @ 11:12p
davef139 said:ok so ilogged into my citi account to drop a payment. I noticed on 2 of my cards that are newish I apped in May/June and doing some 0% BT. Anywho i noticed they riased my limited this month from 6300 to 8900 and 3800 to 5300 does this seem normal after only 4-5months of being a member? and having both cards near 80% utilzation?
I got CLI's after about 3 months with them automatically. Seems normal after they get some experience with you. |
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Grifman
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 6, 2006 @ 11:35p
Something else of interest.
I have a Chase Rewards Card, then applied for the Amazon and Buy.com Cards from Chase. Then I moved some of my CL from each card over to the Rewards Card. After a couple of months, my Amazon and Buy.com cards went back to their original CL's.
I later did the same thing, but they didn't increase a second time. |
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JohnGalt69
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 16, 2006 @ 8:55p
Beck446 said:See I thought that closing doesn't remove them from the age calculation -- hence the overwhelming instruction to keep them open. However, my concern is that because I have applied for so many cards in the last 5 years, it would be more to my advantage to close accounts, wait until they expire from the CC company's systems, and reapply for the great balance transfer deals that they advertise.
Anyone know for sure if closing a card removes it from the age calculation or not? |
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DaveHanson
- Senior Member - 6K
posted: Oct. 16, 2006 @ 9:19p
JohnGalt69 said:Anyone know for sure if closing a card removes it from the age calculation or not?I do, as I've said. And no, it does not, until seven years pass.
Sometimes, closed accounts will fall of earlier because the credit file has more data in it than the CRAs can handle, or because a mistake is made, or for some other tangential reason. But that's the exception, not the rule. |
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highmktgoods
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 4:48p
One of the problems I've been facing, (and maybe this deserves another thread though it is related) is:
How do you get credit limit increases when your utilization is high after an AOR?
In my own case, I have been asking for credit limit increases about once a month (on different cards) and I have been rejected on all of them. My total utilization is 64% and but I have all of my BT money parked in savings. I find it frustrating that even with my non BT cards like Fidelity or Citi Dividend or AMEX Blue (all of which I spend over 1K a month on and pay in full) they will not give me CLIs.
After reading supercreditman's thread: "I went from a $4K Lowes card to $1.5M biz & pers. credit in 32 months" I became interested in how it could happen for some, but not for me. What can I do to increase chances of CLI with high util? |
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DaveHanson
- Senior Member - 6K
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 4:54p
highmktgoods said:What can I do to increase chances of CLI with high util?Um, cut your utilization!
Seriously, you need to think about this long term. If you cut utilizationn to below 50% per card and overall, your chances of CLIs--and new good offers, too--increase dramatically. Before too long, you'll be making as much money with lower utilization as you were with the higher utilization (but lower limit) strategy you were persuing previously.
SCM used lots of techniques to mask his actual utilization, and worked with devoted purpose. He did eventually did ended up with scores of lines (most small) as a result.
His experience doesn't disprove the adage that the a great way to invite higher credit lines it to keep utilization low. |
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agentgrey
- Thrifty Member
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 8:04p
highmktgoods said:One of the problems I've been facing, (and maybe this deserves another thread though it is related) is: How do you get credit limit increases when your utilization is high after an AOR? Ditto DaveHanson's advice. I had requested a CLI from BoA a couple of months ago (it was 6 months since my last CLI), when I was in the middle of my AOR/0% BT cycle with relatively high utilization (over 60% on the BoA, around 50% on a few others). That CLI was rejected – too many accounts with balances and balances too high. Since then I paid down all of my balances to below 50%, and just yesterday was able to get a CLI of $1500 (on a previous CL of $8800). |
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