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These guys just popped to the top of the interest rate thread. Anyone know anything about them?

http://www.geaugasavings.com/GETCURRENTRATES.htm

Immediate Access Tiered Savings Account
Tier 1 $25,000-$99,000.00 5.40 APY
Tier 2 $99,000.01-up 2.00 APY
Minimum balance required to avoid fees: $25,000.00
Transaction limits:

Unlimited access for over-the-counter transactions. There is a maximum of 6 pre-authorized debits per month. Transactions in excess will incur an $8.00 per item charge.

There is no early closeout penalty.



I noticed in their fine print that interest is paid annualy. That would keep me from opening an account.


markshiffer said: I noticed in their fine print that interest is paid annualy. That would keep me from opening an account.

Good call. I think most people hesitate to move $25,000+ to relatively unknown banks for reasons like this. Especially when the MBNA has a rate .1% less and has been a rate leader for a long time.

From a strategic viewpoint, if you have to keep $25,000+ to earn the good rate, and the rate is only paid once a year, wouldn't you just be better off putting your money in 5.5%+ 6 month CD? I mean the only reason to get this account would be to get the 5.4% interest rate but essentially it is a $25,000 CD with a savings account stacked on top. I guess this is true for all minimum savings accounts but with 6% CDs easily available I'd have a hard time tying up $25,000 just so I get 5.4%.


There's a discussion of this bank on BankDeals Blogspot in the July Archive (scroll down to July 27th) with information BankingGuy got from a CSR.


x43b said: Good call. I think most people hesitate to move $25,000+ to relatively unknown banks for reasons like this. Especially when the MBNA has a rate .1% less and has been a rate leader for a long time.

Can you provide more information about this MBNA account?


hiphiphooray said: x43b said: Good call. I think most people hesitate to move $25,000+ to relatively unknown banks for reasons like this. Especially when the MBNA has a rate .1% less and has been a rate leader for a long time.

Can you provide more information about this MBNA account?


This is a whole thread talking about it here. If you go through the proper sign up link you only need $15,000 to get 5.33% as opposed to $25,000 to get 5.4%.

Plus MBNA has been competitive in the past for a lot longer than this bank and pays interest off a lot more often than once a year. It may not be competitive in the future but I think it is too early to see where rates go post BoA merger.


SlimJr said: hiphiphooray said: x43b said: Good call. I think most people hesitate to move $25,000+ to relatively unknown banks for reasons like this. Especially when the MBNA has a rate .1% less and has been a rate leader for a long time.

Can you provide more information about this MBNA account?


This is a whole thread talking about it here. If you go through the proper sign up link you only need $15,000 to get 5.33% as opposed to $25,000 to get 5.4%.

Plus MBNA has been competitive in the past for a lot longer than this bank and pays interest off a lot more often than once a year. It may not be competitive in the future but I think it is too early to see where rates go post BoA merger.


Are you talking about the link from chemistry.org? If so, it's mentioned but there's no link given, and when I go to that web site I don't see one. The other two links from that thread have 50K minimums to get the 5.33% ...


hiphiphooray said: Are you talking about the link from chemistry.org? If so, it's mentioned but there's no link given, and when I go to that web site I don't see one. The other two links from that thread have 50K minimums to get the 5.33% ...

Sorry about that. The discussion is on the link I gave you. The $15,000 link is in the "daughter of all savings accounts apy blah, blah" sticky at the top of the forum. Click on that and scroll down to MBNA and the chemistry.org link should be easy to find.


markshiffer said: I noticed in their fine print that interest is paid annualy. That would keep me from opening an account.

Well, I was going to say that deferring the interest might be a good tax strategy if you want to push income to 2007, but they pay on Dec 31!

Do they hold on to your interest until Dec 31 even if you closed the account long before then? That would be bad!


sfchris said: markshiffer said: I noticed in their fine print that interest is paid annualy. That would keep me from opening an account.

Well, they are FDIC insured, and deferring interest can be great if you are subject to AMT in the current tax year!!!


Isn't Dec. 31st still the current tax year?


x43b said: sfchris said: markshiffer said: I noticed in their fine print that interest is paid annualy. That would keep me from opening an account.

Well, they are FDIC insured, and deferring interest can be great if you are subject to AMT in the current tax year!!!


Isn't Dec. 31st still the current tax year?


You are too quick and got me before I edited my post:

Well, I was going to say that deferring the interest might be a good tax strategy if you want to push income to 2007, but they pay on Dec 31!

Do they hold on to your interest until Dec 31 even if you closed the account long before then? That would be bad!


sfchris said: x43b said: sfchris said: markshiffer said: I noticed in their fine print that interest is paid annualy. That would keep me from opening an account.

Well, they are FDIC insured, and deferring interest can be great if you are subject to AMT in the current tax year!!!


Isn't Dec. 31st still the current tax year?


You are too quick and got me before I edited my post:

Well, I was going to say that deferring the interest might be a good tax strategy if you want to push income to 2007, but they pay on Dec 31!

Do they hold on to your interest until Dec 31 even if you closed the account long before then? That would be bad!


Yep, according to the Bank Deals blogspot guy they do hold any interest earned on closed accounts and distribute it on Dec. 31st. Not to beat this account into the ground, but I don't see the point when there are easy to obtain 5.4% CDs with much lower minimums and 5.5% 6 month CDs. Also if you are willing to do some legwork, you can easily get 6% CDs.

I suppose you could open this account and close it after a few months. But why let them withhold your interest for a few months when you could get the same result with a CD?


Well, the whole MM vs CD thing applies to all the accounts in that list.

I think we should remove this bank from the list because of their shady fine print


sfchris said: Well, the whole MM vs CD thing applies to all the accounts in that list.

I think we should remove this bank from the list because of their shady fine print


Not really true at all. I have an ED account and I keep money in their that I might need in the next few months. If I need it I use it and the whole process is under 5 minutes. Later if I have more money I transfer money in and it takes another 5 minutes.

If I needed money at this account I would have to close the account which probably take at least two or three times as long. I would not have interest I have earned given to me. Then many months later I would receive a check for interest I had earned. I could not use that interest in the mean time. If I wanted to deposit money again I would have to open a brand new account and that would probably take an hour or more.

Doesn't really sound like the same thing at all.


x43b said: sfchris said: Well, the whole MM vs CD thing applies to all the accounts in that list.

I think we should remove this bank from the list because of their shady fine print



Doesn't really sound like the same thing at all.


But the yield curve is so inverted, even a 6 month CD might not pay off when compared to a consistantly high yielding MM that moves with the fed..... that's the debate. I'm still kicking myself for locking in a 5% 1 yr CD earlier this year.


x43b said: I have an ED account and I keep money in their that I might need in the next few months. If I need it I use it and the whole process is under 5 minutes. Later if I have more money I transfer money in and it takes another 5 minutes.

What are you doing that takes you 5 minutes? Are you using dial-up or something?


hiphiphooray said: x43b said: I have an ED account and I keep money in their that I might need in the next few months. If I need it I use it and the whole process is under 5 minutes. Later if I have more money I transfer money in and it takes another 5 minutes.

What are you doing that takes you 5 minutes? Are you using dial-up or something?


Well done troll, well done. I can't wait for you to go back through all the threads and mod me -2 now like you do everyone else.


x43b said: hiphiphooray said: x43b said: I have an ED account and I keep money in their that I might need in the next few months. If I need it I use it and the whole process is under 5 minutes. Later if I have more money I transfer money in and it takes another 5 minutes.

What are you doing that takes you 5 minutes? Are you using dial-up or something?


Well done troll, well done. I can't wait for you to go back through all the threads and mod me -2 now like you do everyone else.


What are you talking about? It was a serious question!


dont know which yield curve your referring to, but the United States Treasury YC is not inverted and is steepening from some of the flatest yrs in record(the opposite from what you saying). FYI, just bcs your seeing imbalances in savings rate in the short-term doesnt mean the YC is inverted, remember your talking about a Curve. you should check out the UKs YC to see what inversion is.

Edited to add: your comparing apples to oranges when comparing APYs of CDs and Savings/MM accts and talking about yield curves... you should stick with the same product and plot it on a curve and you will see that YC is steepening not inverting. When the YC is inverted you will find a one month CD paying more than a 1yr CD for example.


this bank is a joke!!! Avoid!!


Please substantiate.




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