I just bought 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L with navigation. They offered me an extended warranty for $1465 for 7 yrs/ 80K miles. I have purchased it and given 60 days to think about it. Any thoughts? Should I buy it or cancel it? Any reasons for me to keep it? Please help!!
Cancel it. Go to www.curryhondacare.com for better pricing on your extended warranty if you really want it.Text
superkid
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2006 @ 6:53a
if its a cheap car - no if its a new car - no if its a used car - yes, if it has alot of electronics/electric.
i.e. I bought a used jeep laredo for 15K - did not buy(had usual power windows, mirrors, locks and radio).
Years later, I bought a jeep limited for 20K - yes bought it (had power windows, mirrors, heated mirrors, locks, radio/cd, 10 cd changer, moonroof, power seats, heated seats and every jeep owner's worst nightmare... the climate control system).
newparent said: I just bought 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L with navigation. They offered me an extended warranty for $1465 for 7 yrs/ 80K miles. I have purchased it and given 60 days to think about it. Any thoughts? Should I buy it or cancel it? Any reasons for me to keep it? Please help!!
You can probably get a better price. I paid $765 for a 7 year/100K/$0 deductibule warranty for my '04 Accord in Dec. '03, when they were selling for about $1200-$1300 on average. Check out the forums on Edmunds. You can get an idea of what other people are paying. I bought from Pohanka Honda in Maryland. Unless you live in FL, you can purchase an extended warranty from any dealer in any state. I would try to get a better deal, and go back to your dealer and ask them to match the price (or at least come real close) or get it from another dealer.
Lenagainster
Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2006 @ 9:11a
newparent said: ..2006 Honda Pilot EX-L with navigation. ..extended warranty for $1465 for 7 yrs/ 80K miles. ..Should I buy it or cancel it? Q]
IMHO; cancel it.
The last time I bought an extended warranty was on a new 1990 Honda. At that time, the original radio retailed for $1200 (correct, no decimal slippage). It died while the extended warranty was in effect. The warranty company refused to replace the radio, offering repair (2 months without a radio) or max of $600 towards a new radio. I still got stuck with a $120 bill from the repair shop for them to determine that it was my radio and not my speakers. Refused the deal and put in a $150 radio from a tech store. Never had another reason to make an extended warranty claim.
You already have a 3 year, 36K mile warranty. So the $1465 is paying for *maybe* another 4 years, or 44K miles. I thought Hondas were supposed to be so reliable. If it doesn't break in the first 3 years, most likely it will last.
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fwbargain
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2006 @ 9:22a
Even I bought 2006 Pilot recently but have not purchased Extended Warranty. Though I understand that some things are not covered in the 3 yr/36K warranty, I feel it should be enough for the first few years (Honda is one of the most reliable SUVs, so I *hope* things would be OK till then]. I may THINK about buying Extended warranty once the manufacture warranty expires..
newparent said: I just bought 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L with navigation. They offered me an extended warranty for $1465 for 7 yrs/ 80K miles. I have purchased it and given 60 days to think about it. Any thoughts? Should I buy it or cancel it? Any reasons for me to keep it? Please help!!
kycollegerookie
Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2006 @ 9:26a
My avalanche extended warranty was going to be $1800 for bumber to bumper. Instead I started a savings account and put $100 a month in it.
Lenagainster said: ... The warranty company refused to replace the radio, offering repair (2 months without a radio) or max of $600 towards a new radio. I still got stuck with a $120 bill from the repair shop for them to determine that it was my radio and not my speakers. Refused the deal and put in a $150 radio from a tech store. Never had another reason to make an extended warranty claim.
1 of my friend just got into the same problem w/ his xtend warranty on '02 Lexus. The warranty co. refused to pay for his engine repair claiming that it causes by abuses. He managed to get Lexus to reapir under good will since the warranty just run out a couple months.
If Honda works the same as Toyota, you can buy the extended warranty anytime before the factory warranty expires, if you want to wait. However, the price may go up by then. I bought mine close to the end of the factory warranty, and it paid for part of itself already. I have a Prius and the multi function display (MFD) started working erratically shortly after the 36k miles elapsed. The cost of the warranty... $990.. cost that i would've paid to replace component... ~$500. Well worth it to me, at least.
crash22
Addicted Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2006 @ 9:43a
luiset83 said: If Honda works the same as Toyota, you can buy the extended warranty anytime before the factory warranty expires, if you don't want to wait. I bought mine close to the end of the factory warranty, and it paid for itself already. I have a Prius and the multi function display (MFD) started working erratically shortly after the 36k miles elapsed. The cost of the warranty... $990.. cost that i would've paid to replace component... ~$500. Well worth it to me, at least. You can buy an extended warranty anytime before factory warranty expires, but once you get beyond a certain number of miles, the price goes up and the coverage goes down. I believe it's in the neighborhoor of 12K miles, but check for yourself at CurryHondaCare.com. Try several different mileage scenarios, you'll see that after x miles are on the car, the cost goes up and the coverage drops - it's a substancial change.
It's not so much the engine and drivetrain I'd be concerned about, it's all the electronics. You can get a 8 year 120K mile, 0 deductible policy for the Pilot for 1505.000 from CurryHondaCare right now, if you plan on keeping the car, that's pretty good protection.
sdeals
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2006 @ 11:25a
You usually can buy the extended warranty anytime before the standard warranty expires. So, don't buy it when you buy the car.
Wait till the standard warranty is about to expire and feel that you want to keep the car to decide.
I will be buying my extended warranty in a few months though I won't be keeping the car. I am doing that so that the car has a better resale value in a private party sale and do the buyer a favor. The warranty is being purchased directly through the manufacturer at 0% financing and cannot be bought past the standard warranty period.
most warranties are pro-rata refundable and also transferrable. the transferrable part can play HUGE in the sales price of your car later to another person.
so i'd say its win win either way.
Otherwise just lease cars and never worry about maintenance and warranty (ie bmw high residual cars)
BobF
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 27, 2006 @ 2:16p
Personally, I would cancel it.
Look, you bought a Honda not a Yugo. It should be reliable and you still have the basic factory warranty.
Take the $1465 and put it in the bank or invest it. You can then treat that money as a repair fund. If you never use it you'll be way ahead of the game.
Bob
sdeals
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2006 @ 2:19p
bryany127 said: no, unless you plan to keep the car for additional 7 years after manufacturer warranty.
Warranty extended to 7 years and not an additional 7 years of warranty. As it has been said, you will always recoupe the money if you resell the car. It might also help sell your car a lot quicker. Almost all manufacturer extended warranties cannot be bought past the standard warranty and have more value than 3rd parties extended warranties.
You get full value for the warranty if you do a trade-in. Cars with warranty sell better period.
bryany127 said: Warranty extended to 7 years and not an additional 7 years of warranty.
That's what would be expected, but my dealership wrote one which used the sale date as the start of the 7 year coverage period. This was for a ~2 year used vehicle. I think they made a mistake. Anyway, I made enough successful claims against that one to realize about 1.5 times its cost in paid benefits.
One thing which made it easier for me to get the benefits was that I took the car back to the selling dealer for each claim. They dealt with the insurer and even fought (and won) at least one significant denial. So the OP's answer is the usual, 'maybe'.
If you're still so afraid of future repair costs on this extremely reliable vehicle that you need to give some a$shole your money, google for Hondy Odyssey forums. There's some broad on there who sells Honda extended warranties pretty cheap.
A warranty is only useful when it DOES pays our problems. We can always get a cheaper warranty somewhere, but we won't know the truth until you file a claim... ususlly troublesome.
I would not buy unless it's an original manufacturer's warranty. but most of them are not, even those offered at the dealers.
If you must have one, it is necessary lower your expectations.
marketingmike said: If you're still so afraid of future repair costs on this extremely reliable vehicle that you need to give some a$shole your money, google for Hondy Odyssey forums. There's some broad on there who sells Honda extended warranties pretty cheap.
marketingmike is referring to ?Erika? of Pohanka Honda in MD. Overall its reliable, I'm not sure of the track record of the transmission though. The Honda warrantys are either 7 or 8 years and 120k now, that should tell you what Honda thinks of their cars. I dont think it would run more then 1200 but you would have to get a quote.
andyg01
Greedy Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2006 @ 8:10p
Ok guys. I have a 2003 BMW 325XI and my warranty is expiring in about 2 months. I have the car almost 4 years and i have been in their service dept at least 12 times. I requested quote for their extended warranty and every dealer has the same price of $4500 for both maintenance and engine. Should i get it?
dczarniak
New Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2006 @ 10:37p
I am working on a Word doc for this topic.
This is not a pat-answer thing - by a long shot.
No, I don't sell warranties.
I have owned an insurance agency for 10 years - been in the biz for 15. That does not mean that I am going to be a big warranty advocate.
I will be an advocate for making informed decisions - not based on fear or what some 'Consumer Advocate' said on the radio. (That's their job, btw - to tell you "Watch out, listen to my show or you could lose everything. Buy my book and set of tapes, too - if you really care for your family."
As for my working angles in the world of car warranties.
Most Recent set of wheels:
About 3 years ago I bought a 99 Range Rover. "See, insurance guy drives a Range Rover...". Hold on.
I paid $ 23k (twenty three) for it at CarMax, and maybe another $ 1500 for their psycho killer warranty.
Range Rovers are THE WORST in terms of frequency and cost of repair. I didn't know that at the time.
The warranty company has paid out more than $ 10,000 on fixing my ride in less than 3 years.
They aren't off the hook yet.
I am a Newb here. I don't know if my email shows up or not.
If you want to ask me something about your situation, email / pm / im me - or just post below this.
I will answer your questions. This is pro bono (free) work - I do this because I hate seeing people make ill-informed decisions. Especially based on the advice of people who have no business giving that advice.
Rule Number 1: The only appropriate reply to a question about buying a warranty is to ask for a bunch of background info.
Nobody should give anybody any 'yes or no' or even a 'rule of thumb' answer. That's reckless and irresponsible.
Anyone who already has given advice should not have.
You think I'm kidding ?
I am addressing the 30+ crowd now: Some 20 year old person follows the advice of some old timer like us. And then they end up in some kind of position where they can't afford to get it fixed or the warranty company won't pay, and they still have to make payments and they can't get to work. This is the real world we are talking about.
And it's not like it was when you were that age - and - you'll like this - it's not like you think it is right now.
As they say: "This Is MY House".
Stay Tuned.
speedclose
Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2006 @ 11:16p
Well hate to be the contrarian here, but I bought a Hyundai with 14,000 miles on it. I went back in about a year later and paid for the extended warranty for about $1400 which covered me past the 60,000 mile warranty I got with the car to 100,000 or September of 2007. Glad I did. As of now I have 92,000 miles and can say I still have bumper to bumper.
Haven't had too many problems, and in the end the repairs will probably just equal out to the $1400 but it's the peace of mind I cherish. Last week had a problem with the power lock on the passenger side, took it in and parts and labor is about $150 and it is covered.
However up to 80,000 miles doesn't seem worth it to me. I have a saturn as well (bought it used as well) and the factory on that was only up to 30,000 miles so I got an extended one through Allstate until 93,000.
So in the end if you are going to keep the car I think it's worth it.
mwarrior
Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2006 @ 2:36a
So far extended warranty has paid for itself over and over on our '00 Cherokee. Rear end keeps messing up and chrysler has probably paid out over $20grand to dealers. On my Mustang, the passenger side head had to be replaced, and 5days on a rental paid for the extended warranty right there.
One thing I'd suggest for sure though, makes ure the extended warranty is by the MANUFACTURER not some third party. Lots of dealers will say "its just as good", etc... but third party 'warranties' as mentioned by somebody above wont cover lots of things, claim "abuse", or may even limit the dealerships or locations you can get your vehicle fixed at. Manufacturer warranty will cover your vehicle anywhere in North America (US and Canada).
mst3k
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2006 @ 2:50a
I'm not going to try to convince either side to change their opinion. However, we can spout anecdotal stories about whether a specific warranty in your case was covered by the cost of repairs or not. I'm sorry but anecdotal stories mean almost nothing in the grand scheme of thousands of cars being sold.
Second thing to note is that if these warranty companies (or divisions of larger companies) did not turn a profit year over year they would not be in business. This tells me that your premium not only covers the repairs they pay out but it also covers the real estate for the offices they reside in and the salaries they pay out. It is something to think about.
The third item to note is that if you are buying a warranty because you could never afford to repair the car using your own money then you probably bought more car than you can afford. You should probably reevaluate how much enjoyment this particular car gives and whether you were just buying it for status or something less important. I'm not saying this is 100% true all the time. I never buy anything I can't afford to accidentally break on the way home and I have to tell you that being "liberated" from being owned by your possessions is an awesome feeling.
Just a couple of other things I forgot to mention.
I believe Honda bumped up their powertrain warranty to 5/60k on newer models. Emissions should be at 7/80k. If you get one, always make sure its from the manufactuer and you dont have to buy it from the dealer you buy your car.
Then ask yourself, what you would be unwilling to have "not repaired" i.e. if X breaks, can I still drive my car. If you only care about engine, trans, brakes, and moving/stopping components its not so bad to just use the powertrain warranty(it doesnt cover brakes). If you need an ac, nav, res, gps, radio, pw/pl, etc. Then those items wont be covered after the 3/36.
Then ask yourself how much you drive a year and how long on average do you keep a vechicle, how hard you drive it, and what you expect to go wrong with it.
dczarniak said: You young 'uns don't know what you're talking about.
Resolved: Unless you're foolish enough to buy a) brand new models with unknown repair histories or b) an unreliable vehicle such as a Rover or c) a vehicle you really can't afford in the first place (using the x-warranty essentially as a way of financing future repairs over time), you don't need an extended warranty. Instead, you're better off saving the $1000-$3000+ an extended warranty would cost and setting it aside for future repairs.
Please tell us why the above is not correct.
ragnacor1234
Happy Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2006 @ 8:15a
Seems like a no brainer at that price point. Even if your car doesn't break down it will add peace of mind and it will certainly increase its resale value. Used cars with manufacturer warranties are very desirable.
gdg76
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2006 @ 8:29a
ellory said: Extended warranties are almost always a bad value. Buying a used car is almost always a better value than buying a new one.
Do your research before you buy, not after
I'm so sick of hearing this in every car thread that comes up and people accepting it as true no matter what. It's not always true.
My wife and I had been looking at used Pilots for 2 months. Best we could find was in the range of 24K for a 2004 with about 30K miles and the colors were never what we wanted. When the Honda clearance started this year, I was able to fax attack and get the exact car we wanted for $26790. In this case, it would have made zero sense to buy used.
If you're going to buy crap cars, yes it makes sense to buy used and not take the depreciation hit. If you buy a car that holds its value, the curve for new vs. used drops off significantly. especially if you can negotiate a good price with the dealer and buy at the right time.
To the OP: I am thinking of getting an extended warranty through www.hondacuraworld.com They are a supporter of hondapilot.org and have good sales on accessories and great customer service. They have the warranty you got for half price- you can decide up to 6 months/6K miles on the vehicle if you want to extend it. Also, one accessory that has been great are: http://cgi.eBay.com/ebaymotors/Dash-Console-and-Door-Pads-for-the-Honda-Pilot_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33700QQihZ015QQitemZ250021297329QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Hope you like the new Pilot- my wife can't stop talking about how much she does
The reason for selling the majority of warranties is beacuse the compaines prey on your insecurity. If you have a cash reserve warranties/insurance is usually a waste. Now depending on your car I would maybe consider it but then you should not buy a car that you would consider having a warranty on. Insurance is always a money making endavor on the masses so if you play the numbers then you generally win out with no warranty. If you do get a warranty get one from some research on the net and not the $500 overpriced one from the stealership.
I bought a used, historically dependable car. I also bought a zero-deductible extended warranty for $1500 (not from dealer). It has had ~$2000+ in repairs within 2 years. Yes, I would buy an extended warranty again. Next time from the dealer, because most imdependent internet extended warranty companies go bankrupt.
I don't bother buying extended warranties for electronics which Circuit City, Comp USA, Best Buy, etc. push because I know I would never use it. I haven't had a need for it yet that my credit card didn't cover. But for cars, they are generally worth having.
bokchim
Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2006 @ 10:45a
bought my acura warranty there - a few hundred less than the competition. it's always much cheaper (both in terms of $ and coverage) to buy the honda/acura warranty of a new car at purchase (although most likely not from the dealer who sold you the car - that's where they really pad their profits).
uglyrabbit said: Cancel it. Go to www.curryhondacare.com for better pricing on your extended warranty if you really want it.Text
SeattleNative
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 28, 2006 @ 11:25a
Should one buy extended warranty on a new car?NO.
gdg76
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2006 @ 12:41p
Oh, and I should add that I will probably get the extended warranty as we get closer to 6K miles on our new Pilot. I know about all the statistics but every single extended warranty I've gotten (Silverado pickup, TV from Best Buy, portable DVD player) have all paid for themselves and then some. I guess I just must be harder on things than the average person. I also like the security of knowing that I will have no major car repair bills for 7 years on that car.
mst3k
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2006 @ 12:43p
I can play the anecdotal game too. Every single instance where I didn't buy the extended warranty I didn't have repairs that totaled more than the warranty.
Shinku
Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2006 @ 12:48p
ellory said: Extended warranties are almost always a bad value. Buying a used car is almost always a better value than buying a new one.
Do your research before you buy, not after
In a generalized sense some of this may be true, but in specific circumstances they are certainly not. If you buy an unreliable car(for whatever reason you have), extended warranties will likely make sense if not too expensive. And in my circumstance I paid 12.2k out the door for my brand new car and it's lost less than 3k in value after 3 years.(I doubt you could have gotten a used model near the same year for any cheaper) I've lost very little value in my car and it's extremely reliable. I'd take the reliability and peace of mind of a new car over buying some used one which could have any kind of iffy history. I definitely agree with the last statement though... no reason to buy first, think later, that's just asking for trouble.
For a Honda as mentioned in the topic, the warranty does not make much sense at all. I assume one reason you're buying a honda is because of the quality of the car, if that's true, why would you bet that you will have a major problem? I agree with the save money plan. You could probably make more money to pay for repairs just by investing it for the 5+ years. If you were buying a car in the bottom third of the JDpower ratings in reliability, an extended warranty may make sense...but that's certainly not a honda.
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weiyehtay
Member
posted: Nov. 12, 2006 @ 10:58p
Please include the warranty if you buy Honda Pilot. As far as I know, Honda builds bad transmission especially V6 model. I have 2 friends with V6 Accord have bad transmission; a friend of my has Odysey with bad transmission; I have an Acura MDX with bad transmission..... I thought Honda builds good car, my MDX has only 61k miles..... SAD! Now I need to find a rebult transmission as a new one cost me $6000! Unless you are going to TOYOTA!
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