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I switched from United Mileage Plus today.


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SoulAssassin said:am23 said:is the 3% only for FAST FOOD restaurants or any type of sit-down restaurant like Chili's or Applebees?

Don't quote me on this but I think if the place has sitdown service with a waiter/waitress then it doesn't qualify. Sucks for people like me who travel on an expense report. If I could find a card that gave 3-5% back on hotels and sitdown restaurants I would be very, very happy.


The Citibank Professional card gives you 3% back on sit-down and fast food restaurants. There are two versions: Thank-You Points which has a limit = 100,000 points/year which is $1,000 in gift cards (if you redeem it that way) and 10,000 bonus points after first use and a cash version which has a limit of $500/year. Citibank's year start on Jan 1st of every year. This card also gives you 3% back on car rental which could help you if you travel.

The only card I know of to give you Cash Back on hotel is the BP Visa by Chase. This card gives you 2% back on airline tickets, hotels, car rentals, and food (but excludes fast food). There is no annual limit on Cash Back. Redeem in $25 increments.

There are some other bonus categories for both of these cards but I did not include them since they are not travel related.


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I converted my Cash Plus Rewards card to this card without any issues. I chose points as opposed to Cash Back, because I was told by the CSR that Cash Back expires in 36 months, as opposed to points, which is 60 months.


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quiznut1 said:I converted my Cash Plus Rewards card to this card without any issues. I chose points as opposed to Cash Back, because I was told by the CSR that Cash Back expires in 36 months, as opposed to points, which is 60 months.

Was just curious why you decided to convert your Cash Plus Rewards card to the Freedom Card.....


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It was a tough decision, but I based it on a couple things:
1. I already get gas cards through Today's Escapes + at a 20% discount, so the 5% Cash Back on gas won't really do me any good.
2. The $300 total cap on rewards with Cash Plus - with Chase Freedom, the only cap is in the bonus points you can earn each month for gas, groceries, and quick service restaurants ($600 in purchases per month or 1,800 points). Otherwise, there is no yearly cap to how many points you can earn.
3. My main grocery store is Super Target, which I also get gift cards from the Today's Escapes + program, at a 20% discount. So 5% Cash Back on groceries won't do me much good either.
4. The 1.25% CashBack option at 20,000 points ($250) is better than any CashBack card I have had. And I understand that Fidelity has the 1.5% Investment card, but I wasn't eligible to receive that. I also thought the 2% Fidelity 529 card was too much of a hassle to maintain and open another account.
5. Convenience - I've been turned down twice in recent inquiries for a card from Citibank, but for Chase Freedom, all I had to do was convert my Cash Plus program, since I already had a Chase card. As far as I know, that didn't constitute a hard inquiry.

Message edited by: quiznut1 on 2006-10-10 00:39:14 CDT
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makes a lot of sense quiznut1....If the 5% back on Groceries/Gas was important, i'd have suggested just applying for Chase Rewards Plus, instead (which allows double the annual Cash Back of the Cash Plus)...but in your situation, i would say you made the best move...

And i agree that Chase is easier to get cards/change rewards programs with then Citi....And, so far, they have been alot nicer about letting Cash Plus/Rewards Plus holders remain in those programs....And for me, the 5% on the supermarkets/gas/drugs is especially useful....

If they eventually do totally discontinue Cash Plus and Rewards Plus (hope they don't) even for myself, i would still prefer Chase Freedom Card over what Citi is giving them now with the Dividend Card...


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Please forgive me for asking, but am I close with the math if I think to get the $250 Cash Back after 5 years (if i convert the points to cash near the end of the 5 years) would roughly the following:

If a person used the card to get $200 CashBack (before it's 250)just on the 3% stuff (gas, groceries, and fast food?), then the person would have to spend $6666.67 in those 3 catagories. Over 5 years, that'd be $1333.33 a year...or maybe 111.11 a month?

Just curious. Thank you for reading my post.


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VivYip said:Please forgive me for asking, but am I close with the math if I think to get the $250 Cash Back after 5 years (if i convert the points to cash near the end of the 5 years) would roughly the following:

If a person used the card to get $200 CashBack (before it's 250)just on the 3% stuff (gas, groceries, and fast food?), then the person would have to spend $6666.67 in those 3 catagories. Over 5 years, that'd be $1333.33 a year...or maybe 111.11 a month?

Just curious. Thank you for reading my post.


Well your math is dead-on. However, we just got one of the cards and the rewards program states that points expire after 36 months, so your timeline is a bit off. You won't have five years to accumulate points, but rather a max of three. I'll leave the new math problem this creates to someone else.


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if this hasn't been mentioned before, if you decide to switch from an existing chase card to the new freedom card, your rebate will only be 2%, not 3%. 3% is only for new customers.

I wanted to move to freedom, but actually my visa is already a 'rewards' card with 1% back on everything, and my mastercard is a 3%/1% with same rules as the freedom. so I decided that 2% for 3 months is not worth the effort... remember, you'll be getting a new card with a new number... so if you use it online or for auto bill pay, you'll have to make some changes.

I just got my point rebates converted to cash... should be getting two nice checks for a total of $125.. not bad.

Message edited by: RareWS6 on 2006-10-15 23:49:13 CDT
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VivYip said:Please forgive me for asking, but am I close with the math if I think to get the $250 Cash Back after 5 years (if i convert the points to cash near the end of the 5 years) would roughly the following:

If a person used the card to get $200 CashBack (before it's 250)just on the 3% stuff (gas, groceries, and fast food?), then the person would have to spend $6666.67 in those 3 catagories. Over 5 years, that'd be $1333.33 a year...or maybe 111.11 a month?

Just curious. Thank you for reading my post.


Do you think this reward program would stay around for 5 years for you to accumulate points? I doubt it.


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RareWS6 said:if this hasn't been mentioned before, if you decide to switch from an existing chase card to the new freedom card, your rebate will only be 2%, not 3%. 3% is only for new customers.

I think you are getting confused with the 0% APR for 12 months.....The 3% for the special catagories applies all the time, not just for 1 year or for new customers....Where did you read that?</blockquote>


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RareWS6 said:if this hasn't been mentioned before, if you decide to switch from an existing chase card to the new freedom card, your rebate will only be 2%, not 3%. 3% is only for new customers.

...remember, you'll be getting a new card with a new number... so if you use it online or for auto bill pay, you'll have to make some changes.

Yeah, that doesn't sound right. I converted a chase card to the freedom card recently without changing my account number. CSR at the time of conversion told me I would get 3%.

Message edited by: nowie on 2006-10-16 01:15:26 CDT
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nowie said:RareWS6 said:if this hasn't been mentioned before, if you decide to switch from an existing chase card to the new freedom card, your rebate will only be 2%, not 3%. 3% is only for new customers.

...remember, you'll be getting a new card with a new number... so if you use it online or for auto bill pay, you'll have to make some changes.

Yeah, that doesn't sound right. I converted a chase card to the freedom card recently without changing my account number. CSR at the time of conversion told me I would get 3%.


reading this thread, i'm not sure what happened... but i'm sure he said 3% for new customers, and 2% for existing transfers.


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if this hasn't been mentioned before, if you decide to switch from an existing chase card to the new freedom card, your rebate will only be 2%, not 3%. 3% is only for new customers.

...remember, you'll be getting a new card with a new number... so if you use it online or for auto bill pay, you'll have to make some changes.

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Yeah, that doesn't sound right. I converted a chase card to the freedom card recently without changing my account number. CSR at the time of conversion told me I would get 3%.

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reading this thread, i'm not sure what happened... but i'm sure he said 3% for new customers, and 2% for existing transfers.


CSR told me the same thing when I converted my card from Free Cash Rewards (only 2%). However, when I got my statement, it gave me the 3% rewards. Maybe what the CSR was trying to say is you get 2% extra on groceries, gas, and fast food (over the normal 1%).


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Yes, i think that's what the csr meant...you are getting 2% on top of the normal 1% for those catagories of purchases..it's not just for new customers.....Anyone with a chase card that converts their rewards program to this, should get the same deal.


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I just got this card with a 3k limit on it.......weak haha

It also came with a check, so my question is

can i write this check out for the 3k and deposit it into my high yield bank account?


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Can't wait to run up my $300 spending limit. Hmm i wonder if this is a joke?


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I just got an offer in the mail for this however it said I get No Free AND no intrest on both BT AND Purchases for 1 year!

Seems good, but if I only get $300 credit limit...


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am23 said:
is the 3% only for FAST FOOD restaurants or any type of sit-down restaurant like Chili's or Applebees?

Don't quote me on this but I think if the place has sitdown service with a waiter/waitress then it doesn't qualify. Sucks for people like me who travel on an expense report. If I could find a card that gave 3-5% back on hotels and sitdown restaurants I would be very, very happy.

Just looked at my statement today. All my charges, except one, were at either the grocery store, gas station, or a fast food restaurant.

The other one was at a "regular" restaurant -- albeit more of a pub-type (non-chain) restaurant. It looks like I got 3% back there too!

Can anyone else confirm that they've received 3% Cash Back from a "regular" restaurant?


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I think it also might depend on the restaurant, how it classifies itself.


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