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well... you can deposit the money orders right after you buy them... so you don't lose any interest.


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dolmar said:...Citibank account/Everything counts with 7 products get you 800 points a month...I think this is a hot deal if you don't have citigold/private banking acct. It's pretty easy to get 7 accounts: checking, e-savings, debit card, billpay, direct deposit, CD ($6K in a 6-mo at 5.5%), and Checking Plus for $5/yr, all for 9600 points/yr. Even at $0.01 per point it's equivalent to ~ 7% yield on the $6K. Here's the calculator.


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AbbaZabba said:well... you can deposit the money orders right after you buy them... so you don't lose any interest.

Only if your highest interest earning account that you own is a B&M bank. It is pretty tough for me to get my money order to GMAC in "0" days.


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scripta said:dolmar said:...Citibank account/Everything counts with 7 products get you 800 points a month...I think this is a hot deal if you don't have citigold/private banking acct. It's pretty easy to get 7 accounts: checking, e-savings, debit card, billpay, direct deposit, CD ($6K in a 6-mo at 5.5%), and Checking Plus for $5/yr, all for 9600 points/yr. Even at $0.01 per point it's equivalent to ~ 7% yield on the $6K. Here's the calculator.

Plus there is no reason why you have to do $6K in the CD. I have $500 in the CD and $10k in BTs for life from Citi. So my return is even greater.


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asdf9876 said:...Plus there is no reason why you have to do $6K in the CD. I have $500 in the CD and $10k in BTs for life from Citi. So my return is even greater.
You have to have $6K to keep the Citibank Account free, and the best return is in CDs.


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scripta said:asdf9876 said:...Plus there is no reason why you have to do $6K in the CD. I have $500 in the CD and $10k in BTs for life from Citi. So my return is even greater.
You have to have $6K to keep the Citibank Account free, and the best return is in CDs.
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No, it isn't. A better return is doing what I said.


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On the buying money orders idea...

You're forgetting the following limits on debit card transactions with PIN:
If you authorized a transaction by entering your PIN, your daily debit card spending limit is as follows:

* With a Basic Banking, Citibank® EZ Checking or The Citibank Account, your debit card spending limit is $1,000 per business day.
* With an Everything Counts® account your debit card spending limit is $2,000 per business day.
* With a CitiGold® account, your debit card spending limit is $4,000 per business day.


So you can't do $10,000 in money orders per day. Also, any money order transactions over $3,000 per day require some special bookkeeping because of the Patriot's Act. (Try buying money orders at WalMart and see how the special record book comes out and the transaction is delayed until you provide ID and other information...)

It's a nice idea, but it takes too long. Don't forget that you have to fill out those money orders before you deposit them as well and you possibly won't have them clear overnight to be ready for the next day's operations...


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asdf9876 said:AbbaZabba said:well... you can deposit the money orders right after you buy them... so you don't lose any interest.

Only if your highest interest earning account that you own is a B&M bank. It is pretty tough for me to get my money order to GMAC in "0" days.


that's why you should get a b&m. wamu is 5%, citi and hsbc are also. and plus, with wamu you can use the free wire transfer and transfer money instantly


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CreditGuy said:On the buying money orders idea...

It's a nice idea, but it takes too long. Don't forget that you have to fill out those money orders before you deposit them as well and you possibly won't have them clear overnight to be ready for the next day's operations...


why do you have to clear it? you don't have to clear checks before they start earning interest.

if you're talking about how fast they clear, it all depends on your relationship with your bank. if they like you and know you, stuff clears pretty fast, or instantaneously


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True, but the plan here is to do this daily, depositing the money today and drawing it out tomorrow for more money orders.

The debit cards at Citibank when used for PIN-based purchases take the money out of checking accounts only. That's how they're linked. (You can use the cards to take money from other kinds of accounts, but those withdrawals won't earn points.)

So you have to wait for those deposits to clear before you can buy more money orders with them.


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s0ssos said:asdf9876 said:AbbaZabba said:well... you can deposit the money orders right after you buy them... so you don't lose any interest.

Only if your highest interest earning account that you own is a B&M bank. It is pretty tough for me to get my money order to GMAC in "0" days.


that's why you should get a b&m. wamu is 5%, citi and hsbc are also. and plus, with wamu you can use the free wire transfer and transfer money instantly


If you're willing to build a wamu, citi, or hsbc within 5 miles of my apartment, I'd be willing to use it. Otherwise don't judge because the nearest one is over 50 miles away.


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asdf9876 said:JasonE4 said:AbbaZabba said:it's possible to buy 1k usps postal money orders with your debit card. Pin transactions = 1/3 point per $. So 1k money order is 333 points. and costs $1.30

If you have say 10k in your bank account, go to post office and buy 10 money orders with debit card then deposit them in your bank. Quick 203 points per money order.

I've never done this but it does work apparantly.

edit: sure it might be a bit of work, but for 2030 points it's a helluva lot easier than getting a 4.0

Although with the lost interest, its cost is a bit more.


Yep, even if you only lost the 10K for 1 day of interest, you'd lose about $1.50 in interest. Sure it is taxed so call it $1.20. That means $2.50 in "cost" for $3.33 in gain or so. So you are pumping 10K continually through the system, making trips to both your bank and your post office, waiting in line, wasting your time...all for $.80.

My point is this can be a stop-gap if you need to hit a certain tier level by a certain time but it is a terrible way to try to "make" money. By the way, if you just want the points, it isn't 203 points per money order. It isn't like you pay for the fee in points. So if you desperately needed 3,333 points in one day for an upcoming trip I suppose this might be the cheapest way.



why not buy with a CC not a debit card? then you can float the 10-15K limit on your card for 25 days also so your getting the points plus making money on the 15K in savings for a couple weeks? or did i miss something.


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dodgeman007 said:why not buy with a CC not a debit card? then you can float the 10-15K limit on your card for 25 days also so your getting the points plus making money on the 15K in savings for a couple weeks? or did i miss something.

Please PM with the location of where I can buy a low, flat fee money order with a credit card.

did i miss something

You miss a lot when you are living in fantasy land. Did you suggest using CCs because you have done it personally or are you just making stuff up?


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The thank you site was upgraded today they now have a search for flight rewards with expedia. They also had a link where you can get points by using expedia, but that link was removed this afternoon, so it may be a new program ready to be launched.


this is on their faq page

10. Can I combine my points from multiple Sponsor Accounts?
Yes. If you have more than one Citi® credit card, Citibank® checking account or Expedia.com® Account that participates in ThankYou Network you can combine points from these accounts into one ThankYou Member Account. Simply go to Add a Sponsor Account in the My Account section to consolidate your accounts.


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asdf9876 said:s0ssos said:asdf9876 said:AbbaZabba said:well... you can deposit the money orders right after you buy them... so you don't lose any interest.

Only if your highest interest earning account that you own is a B&M bank. It is pretty tough for me to get my money order to GMAC in "0" days.


that's why you should get a b&m. wamu is 5%, citi and hsbc are also. and plus, with wamu you can use the free wire transfer and transfer money instantly


If you're willing to build a wamu, citi, or hsbc within 5 miles of my apartment, I'd be willing to use it. Otherwise don't judge because the nearest one is over 50 miles away.


sorry you live in the middle of nowhere


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breaux124 said:Get the citi premier pass and fly with it or buy other's tickets with it. You get 1pt/3miles for the free card and 1pt/mile for the Elite (annual fee) version. You of course have to match the flight points with purchase points or bonus points, but it works out nice.
Also my Citi simplicity is currently getting 5pts/dollar for gas and drugstores.


the premier pass actually isn't that good of a deal. at most, it doubles your points (cause you have to match flight points with purchase points). you can perhaps double your initial sign-up bonus, but after that you can get up to 4 points per grocery stores, parking merchants, commuter stuff, cause it normally gives you two. for grocery stores that's not as good as the cards that give you 5. and for plenty of other stuff it only gives you 1, when you can normally find stuff to give you more


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That quicksummary by warlord001 deserves some green. (Yes, I know warlord001 and I got into it in another thread.)


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s0ssos said:breaux124 said:Get the citi premier pass and fly with it or buy other's tickets with it. You get 1pt/3miles for the free card and 1pt/mile for the Elite (annual fee) version. You of course have to match the flight points with purchase points or bonus points, but it works out nice.
Also my Citi simplicity is currently getting 5pts/dollar for gas and drugstores.


the premier pass actually isn't that good of a deal. at most, it doubles your points (cause you have to match flight points with purchase points). you can perhaps double your initial sign-up bonus, but after that you can get up to 4 points per grocery stores, parking merchants, commuter stuff, cause it normally gives you two. for grocery stores that's not as good as the cards that give you 5. and for plenty of other stuff it only gives you 1, when you can normally find stuff to give you more


This was true before but not anymore. Citi's 5 pt programs for groceries and gas are no longer available except for a few cards that have the offer for the first 12months, but after that they still don't match the 4pts/$1 return of the PP Elite. So if you fly enough you get AT least 2pts/$1 for all purchases, AND 4pts/$1 for supermarkets, drug stores, gas stations, commuter transportation and parking merchants.

Before I would use my Citi Simplicity for gas because of the 5% return, but now that it's over I use my PP Elite because I'm getting 4% which is better than the remaining 1% I get for simplicity.

This thread is about Citi ThankYou points, not just 5% returns. Otherwise the Chase cards would be better since they still have 5% returns for gas/groceries.


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nymgiants said:The thank you site was upgraded today they now have a search for flight rewards with expedia. They also had a link where you can get points by using expedia, but that link was removed this afternoon, so it may be a new program ready to be launched.


This "upgrade" now returns points values which seem to be 1 cent per point, rather than a flat 25,000 for domestic and 50,000 for Europe. Looks like bad news for those who were using this for bigger returns with flights, and seems to follow the trend of devaluation.


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nymgiants said:The thank you site was upgraded today they now have a search for flight rewards with expedia. They also had a link where you can get points by using expedia, but that link was removed this afternoon, so it may be a new program ready to be launched.


I entered some quasi-random flight data through this link, and it appears that it gives you exactly the same flight options and prices as you would get directly from expedia.com, assuming 1 point is redeemed for $0.01. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if this is the case for all flights, wouldn't it be better to just charge the tickets to PremierPass and redeem for $100 gift cards?


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