We all know that the ThankYou points are most valuable when used for flights rather than gift cards or even cash. I'd like to see how the rest of the FWF community accumulate their ThankYou points to have enough at the end of the year to redeem for their airline tickets. I use my mtvU exclusively for restaurants and movie theatres, but they barely add up any points. Are there certain bills/everyday purchases that can give us the 5points per dollar?
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posted: Oct. 12, 2006 @ 2:53a
illu5ionz
Broke Member
posted: Oct. 12, 2006 @ 4:07a
probably not a good idea but last month, i spent close to a thousand dollars on purchases at costco online. i ended up never even opening most of the stuff and brought it back to the store to return where they refunded cash since costco's dont accept mastercard instore. Voila, close to a thousand dollars worth of thank you points for free. And no, i don't intend to do this again just to rack up points
Reap 10K TY points for credit cards signups. Also, if you get a 4.0 GPA in a certain semester, you get 2k TY points, twice a year.
Laith
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 12, 2006 @ 8:39a
Banking with them will net you 800 points per month.
adiganifatwallet
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 12, 2006 @ 10:28a
illu5ionz said: probably not a good idea but last month, i spent close to a thousand dollars on purchases at costco online. i ended up never even opening most of the stuff and brought it back to the store to return where they refunded cash since costco's dont accept mastercard instore. Voila, close to a thousand dollars worth of thank you points for free. And no, i don't intend to do this again just to rack up points
Get the citi premier pass and fly with it or buy other's tickets with it. You get 1pt/3miles for the free card and 1pt/mile for the Elite (annual fee) version. You of course have to match the flight points with purchase points or bonus points, but it works out nice. Also my Citi simplicity is currently getting 5pts/dollar for gas and drugstores.
vwet9394
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 12, 2006 @ 12:44p
Laith said: Banking with them will net you 800 points per month.
Can I add my existing checking account into thank you network?
asdf9876
Happy Member
posted: Oct. 12, 2006 @ 12:46p
Never carry any cash. Then when you go out to eat with your friends in large groups collect money from everyone who is going to pay cash and then stick that in your wallet. Then put the whole bill on mtvU. If you're going to have to pay your portion with a credit card anyway it is no more work for the waitress to do one huge CC bill or 1 small one and a bunch of 5s and 10s. Usually not everyone in my group is going to pay cash but I can quite often get quite a bit that way. I always offer to split the cash with other people paying with CCs but they rarely take me up on it.
Before people jump on me yes my friends think I'm frugal but no they do not think I'm cheap. They know that I lend money more generously than any of them and I even bought a car for my friend and had him pay me back in installments below what his bank wanted.
mespin
Ancient Member
posted: Oct. 12, 2006 @ 12:52p
asdf9876 said: Never carry any cash. Then when you go out to eat with your friends in large groups collect money from everyone who is going to pay cash and then stick that in your wallet. That doesn't mean that you don't carry cash. You can execute this manuever while carrying a wallet full of $100s. Just don't let anyone see them.
illu5ionz said: probably not a good idea but last month, i spent close to a thousand dollars on purchases at costco online. i ended up never even opening most of the stuff and brought it back to the store to return where they refunded cash since costco's dont accept mastercard instore. Voila, close to a thousand dollars worth of thank you points for free. And no, i don't intend to do this again just to rack up points
Laith said: Banking with them will net you 800 points per month.
Banking will net you between 100-1200 points a month depending on the account type you have with them.
Citibank access and Basic checking with 7 products gets you 100 points a month.
EZ-Checking with 7 products net you 300 points a month.
Citibank account/Everything counts with 7 products get you 800 points a month
Citigold/Private banking accounts with 7 products get you 1200 points a month.
warlord001
Broke Member
posted: Oct. 12, 2006 @ 7:36p
added to quick summary that you can get 4000 TY points/year for 4.0GPA *cough*.
DirtyBastard
Greedy Member
posted: Oct. 12, 2006 @ 7:53p
b534202 said: illu5ionz said: probably not a good idea but last month, i spent close to a thousand dollars on purchases at costco online. i ended up never even opening most of the stuff and brought it back to the store to return where they refunded cash since costco's dont accept mastercard instore. Voila, close to a thousand dollars worth of thank you points for free. And no, i don't intend to do this again just to rack up points
I'm assuming that they don't refund shipping?
Costco is the greatest, they do in fact refund the shipping too.
it's possible to buy 1k usps postal money orders with your debit card. Pin transactions = 1/3 point per $. So 1k money order is 333 points. and costs $1.30
If you have say 10k in your bank account, go to post office and buy 10 money orders with debit card then deposit them in your bank. Quick 203 points per money order.
I've never done this but it does work apparantly.
edit: sure it might be a bit of work, but for 2030 points it's a helluva lot easier than getting a 4.0
JasonE4
Happy Member
posted: Oct. 12, 2006 @ 8:28p
AbbaZabba said: it's possible to buy 1k usps postal money orders with your debit card. Pin transactions = 1/3 point per $. So 1k money order is 333 points. and costs $1.30
If you have say 10k in your bank account, go to post office and buy 10 money orders with debit card then deposit them in your bank. Quick 203 points per money order.
I've never done this but it does work apparantly.
edit: sure it might be a bit of work, but for 2030 points it's a helluva lot easier than getting a 4.0 Although with the lost interest, its cost is a bit more.
asdf9876
Happy Member
posted: Oct. 12, 2006 @ 8:41p
JasonE4 said: AbbaZabba said: it's possible to buy 1k usps postal money orders with your debit card. Pin transactions = 1/3 point per $. So 1k money order is 333 points. and costs $1.30
If you have say 10k in your bank account, go to post office and buy 10 money orders with debit card then deposit them in your bank. Quick 203 points per money order.
I've never done this but it does work apparantly.
edit: sure it might be a bit of work, but for 2030 points it's a helluva lot easier than getting a 4.0 Although with the lost interest, its cost is a bit more.
Yep, even if you only lost the 10K for 1 day of interest, you'd lose about $1.50 in interest. Sure it is taxed so call it $1.20. That means $2.50 in "cost" for $3.33 in gain or so. So you are pumping 10K continually through the system, making trips to both your bank and your post office, waiting in line, wasting your time...all for $.80.
My point is this can be a stop-gap if you need to hit a certain tier level by a certain time but it is a terrible way to try to "make" money. By the way, if you just want the points, it isn't 203 points per money order. It isn't like you pay for the fee in points. So if you desperately needed 3,333 points in one day for an upcoming trip I suppose this might be the cheapest way.
dolmar said: ...Citibank account/Everything counts with 7 products get you 800 points a month...I think this is a hot deal if you don't have citigold/private banking acct. It's pretty easy to get 7 accounts: checking, e-savings, debit card, billpay, direct deposit, CD ($6K in a 6-mo at 5.5%), and Checking Plus for $5/yr, all for 9600 points/yr. Even at $0.01 per point it's equivalent to ~ 7% yield on the $6K. Here's the calculator.
asdf9876
Happy Member
posted: Oct. 14, 2006 @ 6:24p
AbbaZabba said: well... you can deposit the money orders right after you buy them... so you don't lose any interest.
Only if your highest interest earning account that you own is a B&M bank. It is pretty tough for me to get my money order to GMAC in "0" days.
asdf9876
Happy Member
posted: Oct. 14, 2006 @ 6:26p
scripta said: dolmar said: ...Citibank account/Everything counts with 7 products get you 800 points a month...I think this is a hot deal if you don't have citigold/private banking acct. It's pretty easy to get 7 accounts: checking, e-savings, debit card, billpay, direct deposit, CD ($6K in a 6-mo at 5.5%), and Checking Plus for $5/yr, all for 9600 points/yr. Even at $0.01 per point it's equivalent to ~ 7% yield on the $6K. Here's the calculator.
Plus there is no reason why you have to do $6K in the CD. I have $500 in the CD and $10k in BTs for life from Citi. So my return is even greater.
asdf9876 said: ...Plus there is no reason why you have to do $6K in the CD. I have $500 in the CD and $10k in BTs for life from Citi. So my return is even greater. You have to have $6K to keep the Citibank Account free, and the best return is in CDs.
asdf9876
Happy Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 12:50a
scripta said: asdf9876 said: ...Plus there is no reason why you have to do $6K in the CD. I have $500 in the CD and $10k in BTs for life from Citi. So my return is even greater. You have to have $6K to keep the Citibank Account free, and the best return is in CDs.]
No, it isn't. A better return is doing what I said.
CreditGuy
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 1:49a
On the buying money orders idea...
You're forgetting the following limits on debit card transactions with PIN: If you authorized a transaction by entering your PIN, your daily debit card spending limit is as follows:
* With a Basic Banking, Citibank® EZ Checking or The Citibank Account, your debit card spending limit is $1,000 per business day. * With an Everything Counts® account your debit card spending limit is $2,000 per business day. * With a CitiGold® account, your debit card spending limit is $4,000 per business day.
So you can't do $10,000 in money orders per day. Also, any money order transactions over $3,000 per day require some special bookkeeping because of the Patriot's Act. (Try buying money orders at WalMart and see how the special record book comes out and the transaction is delayed until you provide ID and other information...)
It's a nice idea, but it takes too long. Don't forget that you have to fill out those money orders before you deposit them as well and you possibly won't have them clear overnight to be ready for the next day's operations...
s0ssos
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 2:34a
asdf9876 said: AbbaZabba said: well... you can deposit the money orders right after you buy them... so you don't lose any interest.
Only if your highest interest earning account that you own is a B&M bank. It is pretty tough for me to get my money order to GMAC in "0" days.
that's why you should get a b&m. wamu is 5%, citi and hsbc are also. and plus, with wamu you can use the free wire transfer and transfer money instantly
s0ssos
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 2:35a
CreditGuy said: On the buying money orders idea...
It's a nice idea, but it takes too long. Don't forget that you have to fill out those money orders before you deposit them as well and you possibly won't have them clear overnight to be ready for the next day's operations...
why do you have to clear it? you don't have to clear checks before they start earning interest.
if you're talking about how fast they clear, it all depends on your relationship with your bank. if they like you and know you, stuff clears pretty fast, or instantaneously
CreditGuy
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 9:15a
True, but the plan here is to do this daily, depositing the money today and drawing it out tomorrow for more money orders.
The debit cards at Citibank when used for PIN-based purchases take the money out of checking accounts only. That's how they're linked. (You can use the cards to take money from other kinds of accounts, but those withdrawals won't earn points.)
So you have to wait for those deposits to clear before you can buy more money orders with them.
asdf9876
Happy Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 12:15p
s0ssos said: asdf9876 said: AbbaZabba said: well... you can deposit the money orders right after you buy them... so you don't lose any interest.
Only if your highest interest earning account that you own is a B&M bank. It is pretty tough for me to get my money order to GMAC in "0" days.
that's why you should get a b&m. wamu is 5%, citi and hsbc are also. and plus, with wamu you can use the free wire transfer and transfer money instantly
If you're willing to build a wamu, citi, or hsbc within 5 miles of my apartment, I'd be willing to use it. Otherwise don't judge because the nearest one is over 50 miles away.
dodgeman007
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 12:54p
asdf9876 said: JasonE4 said: AbbaZabba said: it's possible to buy 1k usps postal money orders with your debit card. Pin transactions = 1/3 point per $. So 1k money order is 333 points. and costs $1.30
If you have say 10k in your bank account, go to post office and buy 10 money orders with debit card then deposit them in your bank. Quick 203 points per money order.
I've never done this but it does work apparantly.
edit: sure it might be a bit of work, but for 2030 points it's a helluva lot easier than getting a 4.0 Although with the lost interest, its cost is a bit more.
Yep, even if you only lost the 10K for 1 day of interest, you'd lose about $1.50 in interest. Sure it is taxed so call it $1.20. That means $2.50 in "cost" for $3.33 in gain or so. So you are pumping 10K continually through the system, making trips to both your bank and your post office, waiting in line, wasting your time...all for $.80.
My point is this can be a stop-gap if you need to hit a certain tier level by a certain time but it is a terrible way to try to "make" money. By the way, if you just want the points, it isn't 203 points per money order. It isn't like you pay for the fee in points. So if you desperately needed 3,333 points in one day for an upcoming trip I suppose this might be the cheapest way.
why not buy with a CC not a debit card? then you can float the 10-15K limit on your card for 25 days also so your getting the points plus making money on the 15K in savings for a couple weeks? or did i miss something.
asdf9876
Happy Member
posted: Oct. 15, 2006 @ 1:18p
dodgeman007 said: why not buy with a CC not a debit card? then you can float the 10-15K limit on your card for 25 days also so your getting the points plus making money on the 15K in savings for a couple weeks? or did i miss something.
Please PM with the location of where I can buy a low, flat fee money order with a credit card.
did i miss something
You miss a lot when you are living in fantasy land. Did you suggest using CCs because you have done it personally or are you just making stuff up?
nymgiants
Addicted Member
posted: Oct. 29, 2006 @ 1:43p
The thank you site was upgraded today they now have a search for flight rewards with expedia. They also had a link where you can get points by using expedia, but that link was removed this afternoon, so it may be a new program ready to be launched.
this is on their faq page
10. Can I combine my points from multiple Sponsor Accounts? Yes. If you have more than one Citi® credit card, Citibank® checking account or Expedia.com® Account that participates in ThankYou Network you can combine points from these accounts into one ThankYou Member Account. Simply go to Add a Sponsor Account in the My Account section to consolidate your accounts.
s0ssos
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 29, 2006 @ 2:23p
asdf9876 said: s0ssos said: asdf9876 said: AbbaZabba said: well... you can deposit the money orders right after you buy them... so you don't lose any interest.
Only if your highest interest earning account that you own is a B&M bank. It is pretty tough for me to get my money order to GMAC in "0" days.
that's why you should get a b&m. wamu is 5%, citi and hsbc are also. and plus, with wamu you can use the free wire transfer and transfer money instantly
If you're willing to build a wamu, citi, or hsbc within 5 miles of my apartment, I'd be willing to use it. Otherwise don't judge because the nearest one is over 50 miles away.
sorry you live in the middle of nowhere
s0ssos
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 29, 2006 @ 2:25p
breaux124 said: Get the citi premier pass and fly with it or buy other's tickets with it. You get 1pt/3miles for the free card and 1pt/mile for the Elite (annual fee) version. You of course have to match the flight points with purchase points or bonus points, but it works out nice. Also my Citi simplicity is currently getting 5pts/dollar for gas and drugstores.
the premier pass actually isn't that good of a deal. at most, it doubles your points (cause you have to match flight points with purchase points). you can perhaps double your initial sign-up bonus, but after that you can get up to 4 points per grocery stores, parking merchants, commuter stuff, cause it normally gives you two. for grocery stores that's not as good as the cards that give you 5. and for plenty of other stuff it only gives you 1, when you can normally find stuff to give you more
s0ssos said: breaux124 said: Get the citi premier pass and fly with it or buy other's tickets with it. You get 1pt/3miles for the free card and 1pt/mile for the Elite (annual fee) version. You of course have to match the flight points with purchase points or bonus points, but it works out nice. Also my Citi simplicity is currently getting 5pts/dollar for gas and drugstores.
the premier pass actually isn't that good of a deal. at most, it doubles your points (cause you have to match flight points with purchase points). you can perhaps double your initial sign-up bonus, but after that you can get up to 4 points per grocery stores, parking merchants, commuter stuff, cause it normally gives you two. for grocery stores that's not as good as the cards that give you 5. and for plenty of other stuff it only gives you 1, when you can normally find stuff to give you more
This was true before but not anymore. Citi's 5 pt programs for groceries and gas are no longer available except for a few cards that have the offer for the first 12months, but after that they still don't match the 4pts/$1 return of the PP Elite. So if you fly enough you get AT least 2pts/$1 for all purchases, AND 4pts/$1 for supermarkets, drug stores, gas stations, commuter transportation and parking merchants.
Before I would use my Citi Simplicity for gas because of the 5% return, but now that it's over I use my PP Elite because I'm getting 4% which is better than the remaining 1% I get for simplicity.
This thread is about Citi ThankYou points, not just 5% returns. Otherwise the Chase cards would be better since they still have 5% returns for gas/groceries.
techboyds
Member
posted: Oct. 29, 2006 @ 3:55p
nymgiants said: The thank you site was upgraded today they now have a search for flight rewards with expedia. They also had a link where you can get points by using expedia, but that link was removed this afternoon, so it may be a new program ready to be launched.
This "upgrade" now returns points values which seem to be 1 cent per point, rather than a flat 25,000 for domestic and 50,000 for Europe. Looks like bad news for those who were using this for bigger returns with flights, and seems to follow the trend of devaluation.
sfvs
Tired Member
posted: Oct. 29, 2006 @ 4:18p
nymgiants said: The thank you site was upgraded today they now have a search for flight rewards with expedia. They also had a link where you can get points by using expedia, but that link was removed this afternoon, so it may be a new program ready to be launched.
I entered some quasi-random flight data through this link, and it appears that it gives you exactly the same flight options and prices as you would get directly from expedia.com, assuming 1 point is redeemed for $0.01. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if this is the case for all flights, wouldn't it be better to just charge the tickets to PremierPass and redeem for $100 gift cards?
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psychtobe
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Feb. 13, 2009 @ 9:23p
client9 said: I just booked a fixed price domestic ticket a couple nights ago for 20,000 points and was charged $103 for taxes. Does this seem unusually high?
the answer is that TYN charges you Expedia's taxes and fees as well as the US excise tax, which is 7.5% of the 'base' fare but doesn't show up separately under Expedia's 'taxes.'
So if Expedia shows your base fare is $399 and taxes $45, you will be asked to pay 399/1.075 = $28 + $45 = $73 in taxes/fees. You can therefore request a slightly more expensive ticket than it appears: $430 "Expedia base" + taxes/fees, since $429/1.075 < $400.
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