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Here's what DW & I had as of 4-3-06. I haven't updated this list since then, but it give you an idea. I pick up $30K-$50K a month on the average. Plus, I call like clockwork for CLI's.

On 1-20-04, I only had a Lowes store charge with $4k limit.

On 1-20-04, DW only had Discover with $10K limit, CitiBiz with $5K limit, Macy's, Hecht's, and Citi Mellon MC with $14K limit.


SuperCreditMan


Personal Accounts Opened Limit

Household Gold 3/1/04 250
WalMart Store Card 3/1/04 405
Target Visa 4/1/04 500
Corvette Household 3/1/04 500
Pentagon FCU Thrifty 500
84 Lumber Store 6/1/04 1150
HSBC GM Card 3/1/04 1500
Dillard's AMEX 3/25/06 2000
GM Extended Family 3/1/04 2500
Providian Personal 3/15/06 2500
Kroger 1-2-3 MC 3/1/06 2500
GEMB/Meijer MC 2/1/06 3200
RBS MC 7/1/04 3500
Peoples MC 8/1/04 3500
Union Plus-Household 2/2/04 3600
Lexus Persuits Visa 3/1/06 4000
First Tennessee 3/1/04 4000
KNBT (Elan) Visa 1/15/06 5000
National City Personal 11/4/04 6000
Circ.City Visa 2/1/04 6800
Compass Visa 10/27/05 8000
Bank of Int. Visa 5/24/05 8000
TCM Visa 9/1/05 8000
US Bank (Harley) 3/1/04 8500
Bank of America Plat. 3/4/04 9500
Capital One No Hass. 3/15/06 10000
Digital FCU Visa 4/1/04 10000
Western FCU Visa 12/4/04 10000
Western FCU LOC 12/1/04 10000
Lowe's Personal 1/1/98 12000
53 Bank 8/15/05 12000
BOA Power Rew Visa 3/9/06 12200
Nordstrom Visa 1/22/04 15000
BMW Bank Visa 2/9/05 15000
Chase Flex Rewards 8/1/05 15000
Phillips 66 MC 3/14/05 20000
Quicken Citi Personal 3/14/05 20000
Citi Citgo Visa 2/1/05 20000
Cabela's Club Visa 3/1/04 20000
Patelco FCU Visa 6/4/04 20000
Citi Dividend PS 2/1/05 21000
Patelco FCU MC 7/4/04 25000
Shell Plat. Select MC 3/15/05 25000
Exxon-Mobil MC 3/14/05 25000
ATT Universal Card 3/15/05 25000
Coastal FCU LOC 6/1/04 25000
USAA Master Card 6/1/04 25500
Pentagon FCU Visa 6/1/04 30000

Business Accounts

All Phase Elect Sup ?
ABC Building Supply ?
Home Depot Supply 10/14/05 ?
Lamps Plus 12/14/05 ?
United Parcel Service ?
Tiffany and Company 3/1/2005 ?
Radio Shack Biz ?
Federal Express ?
Border's Books Corp 4/10/05 ?
Harvey Industries ?
Kinko's Biz ?
BOA Pow Rew. Visa 3/3/06 25000
Interstate Batteries 11/1/05 250
Valero Oil Co. 1000
Chase Business Visa 6/1/05 1000
WalMart Corporate 1000
JC Penney Biz 1500
Exxon-Mobil Business 1900
Citgo Gas Card 2000
Staples Biz 2000
Office Max Biz 3000
Shell Corp. Gas Card 3000
Sam's Club Biz 3500
Citibusiness AA Visa 11/7/05 4000
Amazon.. LOC 4000
Target Commercial 4500
Tractor Supply 10/14/05 5000
Office Depot Biz 5000
Dell Biz 5000
Expo Design Center 5000
Cap One Biz No Has 3/15/06 5000
Home Depot Rev Biz 5000
Chase Business Visa 4/28/05 5000
Sunoco Fuel Card 5500
Key Bank (Citi) MC 3/3/06 7500
Home Dep 30 Day Biz 7500
M&T Elan Biz 1/17/06 7500
John Deere Credit 10000
Chevron-Texaco 9/1/05 10000
Marathon Fuel 10/1/05 10000
Wells Fargo Biz MC 8/10/05 10000
Quicken Business 2/28/05 10000
HDBiz MC (co. 1) 10/5/05 13500
Lowe's Biz 6/1/98 15000
National City Biz 11/4/04 15000
CitiBusiness (2) 3/30/06 15000
Advanta Biz 4/29/05 19500
CitiBusiness PP 3/30/06 20000
Citibusiness AA (2) 3/30/06 20000
Gulf Corp.Gas Card 11/1/04 20000
Wright Express 10/17/05 21000
Bank of America LOC 1/15/05 23500
BOA Biz Plat.Visa 3/3/06 25000
HD Biz MC (co. 2) 4/22/05 25000
Sam's Clb Dsc 6/1/05 25000
Compass Biz MC 11/11/05 25000
CitiBusiness 3/30/05 25000
M&T Bk Biz LOC 4/11/05 25000
Capital One Biz LOC 3/15/06 25000
WF Biz Line 8/10/05 25000
Citizens Bank LOC 4/1/06 40000
PNC LOC 8/15/05 50000
First Horizon LOC 11/1/04 50000
BOA LOC 3/15/06 50000

Total 1236755

DW

Account Name Opened Limit

Bank of Amer 11/1/04 4300
Mellon 6/10/05 0
Household MC 4/4/04 0
Boscov's 12/1/05 0
Corvette Household 3/1/04 305
Macy's 500
GM Card-Household 3/1/04 600
Hecht's 620
WalMart Store Card 2/21/05 740
Target Visa 700
Juniper Platinum MC 1/24/06 1250
Citizen's Bank MC 7/29/05 2500
GM Extended Family 3/1/04 2500
Citi Dividend Plat Sel 1/15/06 2800
ATT Universal Card 1/15/06 2800
Cabela's Club Visa 9/1/2004 3300
Sam's Club 6/1/04 3500
Lexus Rewards Visa 9/1/05 4000
Nordstrom Visa 12/1/05 5000
Providan Visa 1/25/06 5500
Exxon-Mobil MC 1/15/06 6000
Phillips 66 MC 1/15/06 6000
Sunoco Master Card 1/15/06 6400
Citgo Visa 1/15/06 6400
AMEX Blue 3/1/04 6600
Bank One Amazon 12/15/04 6800
Meijer's MC 1/23/06 7000
Bank of America 11/1/04 7300
TCM Visa 12/1/05 8000
Discover 6/1/00 10000
53 Bank 8/1/05 11000
Quicken Personal MC 1/15/06 12000
BMW Bank Visa 5/1/05 12500
Bank One Signature 2/1/05 17600
Pentagon Federal LOC 6/1/04 25000
Pentagon Federal Visa 6/1/04 30000
Digital FCU 6/4/04 30000
Patelco FCU 6/4/04 30000

Business Accounts

Advanta Biz MC 6/1/05 3500
Citi Biz MC 5000
Capital One Biz MC 2/10/06 7000
Quicken Business MC 1/15/06 8000
BOA Biz Credit Expr. 10/31/05 8000
MBNA Elite Biz LOC 4/30/05 10500
National City Biz 4/10/05 10000
Wells Fargo Biz Line 15000
HSBC Business MC 5/10/05 25000
AMEX Bus. Platinum 3/1/04 100000
AMEX Capital Line 3/1/04 20000
Capital One 2/1/04 3000
MBNA Platinum Plus 5/1/05 22500
Elan Biz Visa 2/25/05 10000
KNBT 6/1/05 5000
Union Plus-Household 2/1/04 15000
Chase Signature Visa 12/15/04 7000
Chase Biz Rewards 12/1/05 10000
BOA Business Visa 2/20/05 12700
BOA Business Visa 10/31/05 25000
First Horizon LOC 11/1/04 50000

Total 655,415

I copied this from a thread I have over on CB. Like I said, I have more than these. I just didn't get around to updating this list. I use an Excel spreadsheet to organize them. Being a novice, I had trouble copying and pasting the items from the sheet to a text box in a forum. The items list like a paragraph. Anyway, I do have several other cards not listed above, like Discover personal and 2 biz Discovers etc. M&T gave me a second biz LOC for $25K. Got 2 Premier LOC, one Sams and one GE for $25K and $20K. The only popular ones you can see I don't have are MBNA and AMEX. I settled with MBNA and they won't open new accounts for me. AMEX shut down $250K across 5 cards around last Christmas. I settled with Chase too, but I'm back in good with them.

SCM


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I think the question everyone wants to know is how you went about getting all the credit...did you do a massive App-O-Rama?

Or did you just apply whenever and wherever you found an application somewhere? Did you target cobranded cards specifically? Did you apply for several at the same time? Etc.

What was your strategy (if any)?

And can you link some of your CreditBoards posts so we can read more and learn of how you went from settling with creditors to nearly 2M in credit?


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ummm... tell us more, like what is your income level - or what are you telling the banks it is?


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You make 30k-50k a month and you did ann app-o-rama?
Thats insane that creditors allow you to apply to so many CC in the alotted time. I thought credit bereaus know you applied to too many apps in about 1 day?


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Looks like the OP is making extensive usage of bumpage.

Coupled with his high income, I'm not surprised he's been able to get so much credit.


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Holy Cow! With a HH income of 400k as reported on the other forum, I can see how you could get that much credit. That's quite the list of cards.


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I an income of $30K a month with just my real estate leasing. Then, I have a computer store, which isn't very busy any more, a used car dealership, and propane dealership. DW is a counselor. The car dealership has existed for over 20 years but it wasn't active for 10 years. I need extra income so I started about 6-05 buying and selling cars again. I should show $200K sales from that this year.

I've had finacial difficults for 15 years, since the town started charging for sewer and trash, which used to be included in the taxes. Then they started jacking up the taxes. Then a bunch of tenants moved and left the places a mess, and things just got really bad. I took out a commercial loan to fix the homes and ended up with a $1.2M mortgage. A year later, a judgement for $1.2M. Then, got behind on trash and sewer. Sewer filed 45 judgments on dw and me. Trash never did. I gut $250K behind on RE taxes, (3 years). Things were BAD. Bank was going to call in the commercial loan. I convinced them to give me another 30 days to increase my income, which had dropped to $18K the one month, when the loan payment itself was over $10K. I did get the income up. In 1 month I got 17 leases signed, so they gave me a little more time. Then a little more, then a little more, all the while having weekly meetings to go over the financials. Then, in July 2004, they sold the loan to a servicing company who fully intended to buy the property at tax sale within 3 months of acquiring the loan. Now you can see why I had to scramble to get this credit from nowhere or I would have lost $4.5M in assets, with only $1.5M in debt. Local banks wouldn't give me a dime because of the red ink. I paid 1 year of taxes in 6-04, $64K, with personal credit acquired between 1-21-04 and 6-30-04. Then, in 8-04, another $40K of taxes with more newly acquired personal credit. That got the wolves off my back for a year. They never found out about the delinquent utilities and I managed to stick to a payment plan of over $4K a month until they were all paid in full and the judgments satisfied, all except the big one. I'll take a break to hear your comments.

SCM


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I don't even know there are so many cards available in market


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I'll be trying for some credit unions that pull EQ only. Just trying to regroup and get some inq's off of TU, in case they pull both EQ and TU. I MUST NOT apply to any that pull EX due to excessive recent apps.

SCM


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Unless you have borrowed 1.5 million at zero apr, what is the purpose of all that credit?

I think I've figured it out. You tell us all this in gory detail hoping someone from the left coast will buy the movie rights. Brilliant!

Who's gonna play you?


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jdopple,

To finance some busines debt. I do diligently pay $9.5K a month on LOC's and CC's, in addition to the $10K a month mortgage payment.

SCM


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That's an expensive way to finance debt, no? You sure you're not getting into trouble again.


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Jdopple,

I've got $140K at 0% with Citi 'til next september, and many of the others are at no more than prime plus 1. I DON'T use ANY personal credit. All balances are business debt. It's way cheaper to pay interest than to be delinquent and with utilities or RE taxes and pay HIGH penalties. The lesser of 2 evils. I have no alternatives at this point, unless I win the lottery.

SCM


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jdopple said:That's an expensive way to finance debt, no? You sure you're not getting into trouble again.

i think so too. this does not make much sense. Do you have any equity in your properties? You didn't buy a bunch of properties with no money down, did you?


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better to have it now so when you really need it you dont have to scramble and get it.


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My mortgage prohibits second mortgages. I didn't just buy them. It's been a family biz for 85 years. I bought it 27 years ago and expanded it. The area where it is sucks. Lots of fixed income and low income population. Can't charge enough rent to break even. Can't attract higher pay individuals because of lack of high pay jobs.

SCM


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Althes,

Exactly. That's why I got in a bind. I never believed in credit and borrowing. I didn't get credit cards until I started an extensive rehab of rental properties and discovered the need for consolidated statements. I wish I would have had more credit back years ago and I would never have been backed into the corner I was in. NEVER, NEVER, AGAIN will I operate a business with unpredictable cash flow without backup credit.

SCM


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So are you back to positive cash flow each month now?


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