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supercreditman
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posted: Oct. 18, 2006 @ 10:11p
Oh, and I forgot about the other cards I got in the first 2 months. I had to go back to the dates on the list to jog my memory. I applied online for the BOA Platinum Visa online. BOA sent me a letter of denial. I used Planet Feedback to send a request for reconsideration directly to the President's office. A couple weeks later, I recieved the card with a $2K limit. They pulled TU for the I've since had online CLI's up to the current limit of $9.5K. I applied in store for the Circuit City Visa which pulled EQ and approved instore for $2K. They've since increased my CL several times to the current $7.8K. Oh, First Tennenesse's online approval said I got $10K limit. When I got a letter for income and identity verification I faxed them my tax returns and they changed to the $4K. I was in no position to negotiate at that point.
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cameron2003
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posted: Oct. 18, 2006 @ 11:06p
supercreditman said:Oh, and I forgot about the other cards I got in the first 2 months. I had to go back to the dates on the list to jog my memory. I applied online for the BOA Platinum Visa online. BOA sent me a letter of denial. I used Planet Feedback to send a request for reconsideration directly to the President's office. A couple weeks later, I recieved the card with a $2K limit. They pulled TU for the I've since had online CLI's up to the current limit of $9.5K. I applied in store for the Circuit City Visa which pulled EQ and approved instore for $2K. They've since increased my CL several times to the current $7.8K. Oh, First Tennenesse's online approval said I got $10K limit. When I got a letter for income and identity verification I faxed them my tax returns and they changed to the $4K. I was in no position to negotiate at that point.
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THis planet feedback thing is enough for me to get something useful, as I dont think I will be trying for multimillion credit card limits. TY, it looks useful |
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patch96
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 12:24a
supercreditman said: I'll start. In Jan. 21, 2004, with only an open Lowes store charge as a positive tradeline, I disputed my EQ credit report online to pump up my credit score. I then immediately applied for a Household Union Plus card. They pulled my EQ report as expected and approved a $2K limit online. The same day, I applied for a Nordstrom store card, which pulls EX, and they approve me for $500 CL. Then, in February, I applied for AMEX Blue and was approved for $2K. They pulled EQ as expected, and I had items on the report disputed again to inflate the score. Then, in March, disputed again to pump up the score, and applied for Household Corvette/GM/GM Extended Family/Household Gold cards all in one sitting. They all pulled EQ as expected and resulted in one inquiry. Then, I applied for First Tennessee Visa and was approved for $4K limit. That was my highest CC limit at the time and I was thrilled. Then, disputed the inquiries off the EQ report. Then, applied for and was approved for AMEX Biz Platinum (no fee one) with $50K limit. 2 months later, when the disputes wore off and AMEX pulled AR's on
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SCM 1st - Good luck, lowing the RE interest penalties/interest is a move in the right direction. I think youtotal debt is scaring others here. Question: i was under the impression disputing inquiries that later reported tradeline was a MAJOR no-no. What about triggering a credit report review? It seems this strategy has obsiously worked for you? But can't this (disputing) create major adverse situations?? |
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SeriusBlack
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 2:23a
Just wanted to congradulate you supercreditman on what you've done. The more you share with the FW community, the better we can all be in understanding how credit works and how to make it work for us, rather than the other way around. |
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gatzdon
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 8:55a
So I get the basic strategy,
File online dispute for much of the information on the credit report that will be used for planned applications.
While much of the information is still listed as in dispute (prior to it being verified as correct), complete planned applications.
In addition to the scoring system ignoring disputed information, a computer review of the report will also ignore much of the information listed as being in dispute. Result being that you look like a completely different candidate to the computer.
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Now to repeat my question.
What is the specifics of disputing inquiries off of your consumer reports? I admit that I have not put too much effort into, but I have tried to dispute inquiries off of my reports before and have had no success. Despite the fact that my argument that the permissible purpose was invalid/inappropriate, they would still send back a canned response that the inquiry took place so it stays.
Again, please post specifics on getting inquiries off the report. |
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MarketVViz
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 9:11a
SeriusBlack said:Just wanted to congradulate you supercreditman on what you've done. The more you share with the FW community, the better we can all be in understanding how credit works and how to make it work for us, rather than the other way around.
Hate to be the lone pessimist here, but this guy is about to get his head handed to him.
To recap, he lost $92,000 in 2004-2005. He screwed at least 3 creditors over who decided to settle with him for a fraction of what he owed. He has basically worked the system hard using disputes to get >$1M credit, maxed out a lot of his credit lines including short term 0% money which apparently is being used to float his money losing businesses (are they still losing money or are you making money at this point?). Most of us that do the 0% game have the money in liquid assets like CDs, and we have the money to pay them off before they come due or roll them over to other lines. It does not sound to me like this guy is in a position to keep things going. This is going to end badly.
Your name wouldn't happen to be Casey Serin would it? |
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das
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 9:26a
hope you have a living WILL. if you don't make one now and list all these debts ... otherwise they are going to get your DW .......... |
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gatzdon
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 10:28a
MarketVViz said:....Hate to be the lone pessimist here, but this guy is about to get his head handed to him....
Ethics aside, I really don't care about the why of OP's scenario. If the OP is about to be handed his head, then so be it. Better for the rest of us as apparently one motivation to offer 0% deals is to improve the bank's portfolio of credit card holders. The OPs motive differs from my opinion in so many ways, but that's the OP's perogative. The OP isn't here asking for help.
But, the HOW of what the OP did could benefit many a Fatwalleter in helping them get more 0% offers. If you are capable of getting more 0% money, why not use the OP's strategy to your advantage.
That said, one thing we have all learned already from the OP, is that by using online disputes, it is possible to alter the calculation of your credit utilization just prior to an Apporama. How does that benefit me, I can feel more confident in pushing the 90% utilization on 0% offer, because when I go to request more, the new credit card apps won't see 90% utilization.
To repeat, I am most interested in seeing some links to discussion threads, or even just specifics on removing credit inquiries, hopefully by using honest reasons. |
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makeinu
- Thrifty Member
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 10:56a
gatzdon said:To repeat, I am most interested in seeing some links to discussion threads, or even just specifics on removing credit inquiries, hopefully by using honest reasons.
This information is covered in detail over at creditboards. The general opinion over there is that disputing inquiries that have resulted in valid credit lines could get those credit lines closed (as the issuer will assume that the line was granted in error or, worse, due to fraud). To me it seems that even if the dispute itself doesn't trigger account closure, it would probably result in a manual review which, in the case of high BTs, could in turn trigger account closure.
Furthermore, the only lawful reasons for filing a dispute are if the information is "inaccurate" or "incomplete", which, IMO, is hard to honestly claim when motivated by an application spree. However, it seems that many people over at creditboards dishonestly claim these reasons without any legal problems. Although the CRAs have been known to legally dismiss disputes as "frivolous".
As a bonus, if the CRA doesn't follow the correct procedure according to the FCRA (and they often don't) you could sue. Someone over at creditboards even won a suit related to the removal of disputed inquiries. |
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happywakko
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posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 2:06p
This is teriffic workday reading Dreaming up ways to use 1M in credit now One question... do you have a template that you use to keep track of disputes and when they wear off so you can dispute again? That is the part that I am stuck on. I would think they would catch on to that. |
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gatzdon
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 3:00p
makeinu,
that sounds like something that makes sense. Like I said, I was hoping that it was a legitimate reason, even if it was stretching the truth.
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Here's another question for the OP. Are you actually putting some activity on all the cards to keep any of them from being closed due to inactivity? |
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asdf9876
- Happy Member
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 3:06p
makeinu said:gatzdon said:To repeat, I am most interested in seeing some links to discussion threads, or even just specifics on removing credit inquiries, hopefully by using honest reasons.
This information is covered in detail over at creditboards. The general opinion over there is that disputing inquiries that have resulted in valid credit lines could get those credit lines closed (as the issuer will assume that the line was granted in error or, worse, due to fraud). To me it seems that even if the dispute itself doesn't trigger account closure, it would probably result in a manual review, which in the case of high BTs, could itself trigger account closure.
Furthermore, the only lawful reasons for filing a dispute are if the information is "inaccurate" or "incomplete", which, IMO, is hard to honestly claim when motivated by an application spree. However, it seems that many people over at creditboards dishonestly claim these reasons without any legal problems. Although the CRAs have been known to legally dismiss disputes as "fivolous".
As a bonus, if the CRA doesn't follow the correct procedure according to the FCRA (and they often don't) you could sue. Someone over at creditboards even won a suit related to the removal of disputed inquiries.
Very well put. I know people should have the right to sue but I don't see why I should dispute/sue when I actually did apply for that credit card, consented to a credit check, and recieived a credit card. Running the risk of having the line closed for fraud doesn't seem worth it. Especially because I have so many new accounts and so many BTs that I probably wouldn't get accepted for new credit anyway and by the time I would it has been more than 6 months so the inquiry doesn't matter anyway. |
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SUCKISSTAPLES
- Charter Member
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 9:07p
makeinu said:
. However, it seems that many people over at creditboards dishonestly claim these reasons without any legal problems. Although the CRAs have been known to legally dismiss disputes as "frivolous".
As a bonus, if the CRA doesn't follow the correct procedure according to the FCRA (and they often don't) you could sue. Someone over at creditboards even won a suit related to the removal of disputed inquiries.And this is the reason I dont visit creditboards.
There are just far too many deadbeats and crooks posting there. But Im sure there is LOTS of good info there that can help people like us, who dont make the creditors money, but do pay our bills. |
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supercreditman
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posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 9:39p
Gatzton and Patch,
You will only have success with inquiries on EQ. EX inquiries must run their course of 2 years, unless you want to deal with the fraud dept and risk a fraud alert. Pull your TU report daily and inquiries will vanish from TU in 2 months.
I only disputed information online for my EQ report early on because the scores were just too low and derrogatory onfo so new that approval was impossible. Around October 04, I stopped disputing the tradelines that were affecting my approvals. After 3 month of no updates the score jumped up 9 points for each of 2 of the bad histories. But they were then starting to get outweighed by new accounts with positive history. Once 2 years passes, new accounts are considered more established by FICO and the score goes up several points for each account at it's 2 year anniversary.
I have never had a problem with deleted inquiries before an account reports. When I call and activate the card, I'm confirming that I requested it. And, I told you that when I call to request an inquiry deletion, I ask in an authoritative manner to please "investigate it". They seldom ask if I applied for anything. If they don't delete, I just call back and repeat the process.
As far as being honest, is your name Jesus, that you should think you are more honest than me? As many have pointed out, I am not here to discuss my use of the credit, or implied mis-use, but to discuss how I got it. If you think I am dishonest, and think my methods are, then I can stop sharing now. Again, I paid what I had when I could, I didn't totally not pay even though I had the means to pay some. And more importantly, I didn't file bankruptcy as many would have. And I maintained stability for dozens of tenants while many of my competitors have gone out of business and stuck everybody in sight. Our main street has more vacant storefronts than occupied ones, and our local mall has only 40% occupancy. My business is located in an economically depressed area and suvival is truely a challenge. I may well get my "head chopped off" but I will fight for my business until I die, if my head is chopped off next week or 50 years from now. I am not a quitter. If you think I'm a fool, maybe I am, but I believe in what I do, and I have something in me called entreprenurial spirit. My debt is not higher than it was 5 years ago, but who I owe is different. I now owe banks that don't mind you owing them, not utility companies and tax bureaus. I have a friend with a Wharton accounting degree that's in much worse shape than me. His large business will probably fail in 2007. It will join about 4 large business within the last 3 years that filed bankruptcy. Holding my own is acually an accomplishment around here.
Now, do you want to get info from a saint that doesn't know a lot of tricks or a savvy resourceful entreprenur?
I'm ready to continue the saga when your ready to stop cricizing me "screwing" the creditors that I called and negotiated with, and would gladly have gone to their headquarters in person to face them, if it would have helped. It would be much, much worse for my biz to fail because it would drive all property values in the town down for years to come. That would affect hundreds of homeowners who want to sell or refinance their private homes.
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chan0512
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posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 9:47p
SCM, Nice work on the credits. When you are saying request for inquiry deletion. Do you call the CC company or CRAs? Thanks. |
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supercreditman
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posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 9:51p
Chan0512,
I don't contact the creditors. I don't ever dispute inquiries with TU or EX. I call Equifax.
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supercreditman
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posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 10:00p
On a different topic, I just got my new Citi Professional with $31K limit and Citi AMEX with $8K limit in the mail today. I activated them but didn't ask for a cli at activation. I didn't want to risk more inquiries.
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chan0512
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posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 10:09p
Sorry, Maybe I missed something or confused. When you are saying "I have never had a problem with deleted inquiries before an account reports" How do you delete a hard inquiry before being reported? Do you tell the creditors when you are activating it? Thanks |
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supercreditman
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posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 10:16p
I apply, monitor the EQ report, and when the inquiry appears, wheather it's the same day I apply or a day or 2 later, I then call EQ the next day to request an investigation of it. I don't usually get the card in the mail until a week or more after the inquiry from the card app is already deleted. I don't mention anything to the creditor about anything except the activation. Most of the time, it's automated over the phone. Some, like BOA, you can active the card online. I sometimes do that. You're thinking things are more complicated than they are. It's quite simple.
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SUCKISSTAPLES
- Charter Member
posted: Oct. 19, 2006 @ 11:03p
supercreditman said:G Now, do you want to get info from a saint that doesn't know a lot of tricks or a savvy resourceful entreprenur?
I'm ready to continue the saga when your ready to stop cricizing me "screwing" the creditors that I called and negotiated with, SCMI too hope the focus stays on how you got the credit, not the other issues. The backstory was interesting considering you were able to get new cards after settling with creditors, but irrelevant to the main topic of how you (and we) can get so much credit so quickly. |
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