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I've had the AT&T Univ Card since it was first offered years ago; never used it for BT. Just got this notice in the mail: Effective Nov 17, 2006, max on BT fee is being increased to $250. Effective Feb. 1, 2007, Citi is removing the max on BT fees altogether; as of that date the BT fee, a finance charge, will be 3% of amt transfered.

Anyone get this type of notice on other Citi cards?



Yup, just got the same notice 2 days ago on my Citi Dividend card. Removing the BT max transfer fees seems like the trend with cc companies now. But "special BT offers" often still have a BT maximum fee. We're gonna have to pay extra special attention to the fine print from now on.


Those bastards, time to start a boycott.

I never really enjoyed citibank anyways because they were a hassle to increase CL, am I the only one with this problem? I know my account is only 4 months old, but I have 2 other credit card companies (4 cards) offering me 4 times the CL they are AND these accounts are brand new! (less than a month old)


charliek said: Yup, just got the same notice 2 days ago on my Citi Dividend card. Removing the BT max transfer fees seems like the trend with cc companies now. But "special BT offers" often still have a BT maximum fee. We're gonna have to pay extra special attention to the fine print from now on.

The trend that's now surfacing is that "special BT offers" are also turning up with a 3% fee. Oh well, so much for a good thing...


PorStaker said: I never really enjoyed citibank anyways because they were a hassle to increase CL, am I the only one with this problem? I know my account is only 4 months old, but I have 2 other credit card companies (4 cards) offering me 4 times the CL they are AND these accounts are brand new! (less than a month old)

Citibank's policy seems to be no CLI's (online, at least) for 6 months on new cards. So if you're not happy with the CL, you might wanna try calling them up and asking for a CLI when you first get the card.


posted here already, check the post by Snyder81


About time to max out on Citi's for life BT deal.


If folks like to play the BT game, then more power to you.

I'm an old-fashioned kind of gal. I charge extensively but pay off my cards in full each month.

Just call me a dinosaur.........


And CHASE is moving to uncapped BT fees beginning Dec 1, and MBNA is already uncapped on many new apps...

its a truly sad day, the end of easy 0% BT money is approaching


its a truly sad day, the end of easy 0% BT money is approaching


Sometimes life just deals folks a bad hand.........


Does not came as a surprise to me. Specially after watching a new AOR thread every day.


Can still look for CC with good rewards after your first purchase and then pay yourself through Google checkout. It will cost you 2% up front but if you get a card that has for example 1% CashBack as well as a reward on making a purchase in the first few months, that might almost negate the 2% lost and then you have the money sitting in our bank account and you proceed as normal with your AOR.


charliek said: Yup, just got the same notice 2 days ago on my Citi Dividend card. Removing the BT max transfer fees seems like the trend with cc companies now. But "special BT offers" often still have a BT maximum fee. We're gonna have to pay extra special attention to the fine print from now on.

as a member of FW i hope we are all reading the fine print ALL THE TIME, if you dont your only asking for problems....


Yeah, just got the notice a few days ago. You can opt-out though, but per CSR if you do so, your card will expire without renewal.


I got this notice for my Dividend Card, but not my two simplicity cards (Thank You & Cash) as well as the Professional Card. Not sure if they are slowly rolling this over all their cards, or if they are changing the dividend card (again!).


So do you think with the upcoming fee increase on BTs that it would make sense to utilize the lines higher than in the past? Instead of keeping it to 50% and getting more BTs later, just use up to around 90% since it could be the last "easy" BT for a long time? Any opinions?

EmilM


Is it possible to do an AOR right now to make the best out of whatever offers are left out there?


yes there are still citi ATT Universal offers with NO fee 0% BTS.


Thanks for the heads up...I have a citi card I am waiting to do a BT, was planning to do in Feb, but looks like I will likely need to do that in January...or possibly before Nov 17th - I am going to have to check with my card and crunch the numbers, ugh...this is nearly a 20K bt.


time for me to over 90% utilization on my existing AOR. What is there to lose if the game is going away anyway?


Its not going away you just have to change how you play it. It should be obvious how to continue to game it for at least the next several years, until they remove BT fee caps on all NEW applications (right now these changes are only on existing accounts)


I just got this mailing yesterday and I think I might have found a loophole...

1) Call Citibank and tell them that your card's stripe was damaged and to send you a new card. I believe the new card will have a new expiration date.
2) There is a clause in the recent mailing that if you refuse to accept the change to the ToS, you can write in and opt out. Your current ToS will be in place until the expiration of the card at which point your account will be closed.

I have a 1.99% for life offer on my card. So if the expiration date gets extended out to say 3 years, that would be 1.99% with $75 BT fee for 3 years.

I'm planning on trying this and will let you guys know what happens.

SiS/DyS and others...can you find any faults in this?

The loopholes in this plan that I can think of are:
1) You need to write in to opt out by February 2007. That means that if you do a BT between the beginning of the phase-in and when they receive the letter, I'm sure I'll be hit with the up to $250. It will be a pain to get a refund on the difference.
2) My current expiration date is 11/07. If they don't extend it with the new card, then it may not be worth it
3) When they close the account at the end, it may ding my credit report. But I'm wondering if it would be better if at that point, I ask them to merge it into one of my other cards.

BTW: The card I got the mailing for was the Platinum Select card.


Well this begs an interesting question - many current citi cards, (AT&T included) include the embedded 12-month option for 0% Balance Transfers. This sign-up offer has no BT fee, however I must wonder whether my plan to take advantage of the BT offer 12 months from now risks getting slapped with the fee. Anyone have other thoughts? Otherwise I'll call & report back.




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