I'd like to take an informal survey. What is your overall credit limit with Citibank credit cards as a percentage of your reported household income? Please also indicate how many cards you have, whether you have decent credit, and if you've been applying for CLI's.
I'll start. My CL is 32% of income. $49K CL on 5 cards, $152K reported income, FICO around 750. I was declined for a new Citi card two months ago and denied for online credit increases last week. They say I have the maximum amount of credit they are willing to extend based on my income.
To the Mods: There are lots of GENERAL posts on CL's and CLI's, but this post is SPECIFICALLY about Citibank and the relationship between overall CL and reported income.
Edit: I notice some folks are listing usage and balance. I have used mostly one card for about $2K per month and another card for about $100 per month. Pay off in full each month.
Users like you can add images, links and other relevant information about this topic.
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 11:11a
GradStudent
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 12:15p
1 card; CL is 15% of HH income; FICO over 750.
Am not currently being offered an automatic CLI on their web site. Have never filled out the form to request one.
Good thread idea, OP.
FORE
Broke Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 12:26p
1 card, CL is 12% of HH income, FICO avg is 740
RareWS6
Happy Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 12:27p
across 4 cards... visa, ms and two store-specific cards. overall 50% of income... but my utilization is 0 = pay off in full every month. FICO above 780.
spade87
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 12:39p
I'm a student, therefore I have 0 income , my reported income is 60,000 when I first opened my account and I do not have any loans.
I'm 19 , fico score of 712. **Discover Student card ( 1 year old) $750 limit(was $500) **CitiBank Diamond Preferred Master Card-(7 months old) $1300(n was 500 a couple days ago) **Wamu Master Card- (3 months old) $1000 limit
My balance on discover usually 200-350(one time it was 700) My balance on citi is usually 200-350 My balance on Wamu is usually $5-$30 Which is more than 50% of my utilization but I always pay in full.
4.67% of my reported income(60,000 which is not verified)
greatpgmr
Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 12:50p
I was given that reason when a CSR called me on AMEX Diamond card app and she offered to reduce another line instead of deny the request. (I agreed.) A few hours later I got a call from a different CSR to ask if I wanted a Professional card in addition to the AMEX Diamond (no extra pull) and I agreed. The card showed up later with a $7K limit ... so much for being at the limit for my income. A few weeks later I read here on FW that the Citi Hilton card is an easy approval ... bang another $20K limit!! Take Citi's denial reasons with a BIG grain of salt.
Good thread, but I doubt it clears anything up regarding Citi / income level / CL relationships.
impoverished said: I'll start. My CL is 32% of income. $49K CL on 5 cards, $152K reported income, FICO around 750. I was declined for a new Citi card two months ago and denied for online credit increases last week. They say I have the maximum amount of credit they are willing to extend based on my income.
I personally had a CL at higher % of income, and a lower Fico score. Then I was approved for several new Citi cards recently (every one I applied for), raising that % even higher. In other words this is going to be YMMV.
greatpgmr said: I was given that reason when a CSR called me on AMEX Diamond card app and she offered to reduce another line instead of deny the request. (I agreed.) A few hours later I got a call from a different CSR to ask if I wanted a Professional card in addition to the AMEX Diamond (no extra pull) and I agreed. The card showed up later with a $7K limit ... so much for being at the limit for my income. A few weeks later I read here on FW that the Citi Hilton card is an easy approval ... bang another $20K limit!! Take Citi's denial reasons with a BIG grain of salt.
Good thread, but I doubt it clears anything up regarding Citi / income level / CL relationships.
Can you reallocate the Citi Hilton credit line to another card? If so, I may include this card in my AoR.
Edit: I think I answered my own question - it may be possible depending on what card you are attempting to shift a credit line to.
From a reallocation thread: Calebfornia said: Requested CL transfer from Hilton to Dividend. 19k out of 20k to Dividend. No dice! Was told transfer between these two types not allowed. Anybody have any experience with this? Should I try again with leaving more than just 1k in the Hilton account?
nymgiants said: Grim said: Has anyone successfully reallocated online or by phone from AMEX Clear to another card? (specifically wondering about TrueEarnings)
I have a clear card and reallocated from clear to hilton, Delta no problem. I tlooks like you can reallocate to of their AMEX cards as long as it is not a no preset spending limit such as the one card
rsean78
Thrifty Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 1:07p
40.8k CL spread across 4 cards (incl. 1 store-branded). Reported income 95k. So, my Citi CL is 43% of my reported income. FICO was around 760 when I got my last Citi card.
Edit: just realized that CL amount included 4k CL from a Citi business account.
On one card, it's about 15-20% of stated income. It started at around half of that, and I've taken advantage of 3-4 automatic CLIs on their Web site to get it to where it is now. I haven't been able to use the automatic CLI for a few months now; I get the form instead.
impoverished
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 1:37p
greatpgmr said: I was given that reason when a CSR called me on AMEX Diamond card app and she offered to reduce another line instead of deny the request. (I agreed.) A few hours later I got a call from a different CSR to ask if I wanted a Professional card in addition to the AMEX Diamond (no extra pull) and I agreed. The card showed up later with a $7K limit ... so much for being at the limit for my income. A few weeks later I read here on FW that the Citi Hilton card is an easy approval ... bang another $20K limit!! Take Citi's denial reasons with a BIG grain of salt.
Good thread, but I doubt it clears anything up regarding Citi / income level / CL relationships. Thanks for the info greatpgmr. I decided to try applying for the Citi Hilton to see if I have any success with that. Does anyone no of any other Citi cards with "easy approval" ?
Moosy
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 1:41p
12% over 2 cards. I haven't received an increase and never seem to get one on;line) in a long time, I haven't asked for one involving a hard pull either.
impoverished
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 1:48p
jasonroehm said: On one card, it's about 15-20% of stated income. It started at around half of that, and I've taken advantage of 3-4 automatic CLIs on their Web site to get it to where it is now. I haven't been able to use the automatic CLI for a few months now; I get the form instead.
Does getting the form mean a hard pull if you fill it out?
Applied for a student card in Aug 2004 and it didnt ask for HH income, but they started me off at $3000. The highest they went to was $11600 and recently I applied for a MTVU card (didnt ask for HH income) which they would only approve if I used some of my existing line (told them to open the new card with $6000 but it only came with $500 so I called back about my missing $5500 in credit line, but they ended up adding $6000 to the $500 instead of just adding $5500 so I ended up with $500 in extra limit)
-Dividend student $5600 (applied for the regular platinum one which asked for no HH income and then converted to Dividend as soon as I got the card) -MTVU student $6500 (didnt ask for HH income) Total $12100 w/o any income reporting
I plan on applying for another Citi card next year so that they have a HH income on file
Chase on the other hand gave me a total of $21400 in credit (have 2 cards) with a HH income of $48500 (44%)
rogue409
Frivolous Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 2:05p
~$30K CL over 4 cards (3 are brand new). ~$60K HH income.
So CL is approx 50% of income.
didNOTsearch
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 2:28p
5 cards: 4 personal, 1 business Total CL = $80K ($40K on biz card) Stated Income = $108K 37% for personal only 74% if you include the biz card
less than 5% usage and always paid in full FICO = around 770 last I checked.
impoverished
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 2:44p
love your screen name.
didNOTsearch said: 5 cards: 4 personal, 1 business Total CL = $80K ($40K on biz card) Stated Income = $108K 37% for personal only 74% if you include the biz card
less than 5% usage and always paid in full FICO = around 770 last I checked.
impoverished
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 2:46p
Wow, these percentages are all over the board. I can't make any sense of it.
didNOTsearch
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 2:56p
impoverished said: Wow, these percentages are all over the board. I can't make any sense of it.
thanks, I like the screen too. a tribute to SiS.
i've stopped trying to understand it and simply take it if they're willing to give it. however, one thing is for sure, with my current credit exposure with Citi, NOTHING I applied for recently was approved instantly. All were deferred and approved later. I usually call in about 3 days after applying online and inquire about the application, at which point they notice the CLs and simply ask me to shift things around.
This is about the only time I was able to move things in and out of my Citi Professional card. At no other time will they allow me to move CL in or out of the PRO card.
hope that helps.
jaydunning
Thrifty Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 3:03p
5 cards: 3 personal, 2 business Total CL = $29k Personal, $29k Business Stated Income = $80k My CL is 36% of income for personal & business separately, 72% of income combined
Usage at more than 80% counting ~$2.5k monthly spending, 78% in BT funds. FICO = vary in the high 700s.
Call Citibank and tell them to update your household income for you, after you have done this then they should offer you a CLI using the link from their site.
3 personal Cards CL is 25% of income Fico 720+ last time I checked
Never asked for a CL increase, but occasionally get them. Never carry a balance (unless it's 0%)
LustfortheMoment
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 3:44p
2 personal cards with total CL around 20% of my income, which is > $100K; hey, a gal has to have some secrets
Most recent FICO, 804.
CTURajan
Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 3:49p
Citi wouldnt budge on giving me more than a lousy 1%.
They gave me $600 in credit line on a income in the range of $60k. FICO score of 731 with US credit history since 2003 as well as a Citibank Canada card since 2002. They cited that the Citibank Canada relationship is what allowed me to get the generous credit card that they gave me.
I guess they know I am an FW-er and dont want my business cuz Ill probably cost them money instead of making it for them.
I also recently applied for a Citi Professional card and got rejected online with no response as of yet.
impoverished
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 3:52p
LustfortheMoment said: 2 personal cards with total CL around 20% of my income, which is > $100K; hey, a gal has to have some secrets
Hey, what's more important in life. A woman's body, her mind, or her FICO?????
Hey, the junior Senator from our state (Massachusetts) has taught me that if you're going to marry, it's easier to marry rich than poor.
tdg147
New Member
posted: Nov. 15, 2006 @ 8:06p
Wow. 2 or 3 years ago my household income was about $55k and my CL was over $100k. They got worried when I bought a piece of large equipment, using ALL cards and pushing my CC debt over $100k. One CC called and dropped my CL about $3k because I refused to send an immediate good-will payment of $2000 to show them I was able. The others just boosted my APR which didn't matter because I used 'special' offers good for at least 12 months each. No taking off work to humble myself to a jerk banker charging excessive rates and telling me how to manage risk, etc...
Now my reported income is $100-$150k and total CLI is around$60k only because I have canceled most of them.
I seem to be in the minority here. I'm a grad student, with a research assistantship which provides me with $15,000 annually. Total CL spread across my 5 citi cards is $23,700, or 158% of my income. The card with the largest CL has $10,400 on it. Been doing automatic CLIs. Last I checked, FICO was 760ish.
Credit Score is 750 Age: 22 CL is 50k over 5 cards Reported HH income is 170k Almost 30% there
The AMEX cards seem to be the easiest to get increases. I have a HHonors and Blue Cash which I call up for credit line increases then call back to reallocate the balances to the Hilton card. They have extended over 25,000 on the one card, being that I am so young this is an achievement in my book.
Citi bank can be a b when it comes to anything. They have the stupid policy of 2 inquiries every 60 days and they would not let me have a CL increase until 6 months after I retained the card. With a 4k balance I do not even use the damn thing for fear of going over my 10% utilization rule.
impoverished said: jasonroehm said: On one card, it's about 15-20% of stated income. It started at around half of that, and I've taken advantage of 3-4 automatic CLIs on their Web site to get it to where it is now. I haven't been able to use the automatic CLI for a few months now; I get the form instead.
Does getting the form mean a hard pull if you fill it out?
I'm not sure what type of pull they do, but it does say on the form that by submitting the request you give them permission to check your credit history. I would assume it is a hard pull.
tim2357b
Member
posted: Nov. 16, 2006 @ 8:01a
I have 1 Citi Dividend card, last CLI they increased it to 25.03% of stated income and recieved notice that they could not increase it further at this income level.
Fico 756 CL $16900 Stated Income $67509
mespin
Ancient Member
posted: Nov. 16, 2006 @ 9:53a
My FICO sucks while I pay off CC debt (<700). I just have one Citi card -- $20K which ~14% of my stated income.
EDIT: I should add that Citi wanted paystubs to verify my income when it shot up after school finished.
alfonzo
Member
posted: Nov. 16, 2006 @ 10:31a
For Citi, 2 cards. Diamond Preferred MC and Platinum AMEX. I'm 21. True household income is $40,000. Reported HH income is 100,000. Credit line: $24,000 between the two cards. Credit line % of MY income: 100%.
impoverished
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 16, 2006 @ 2:39p
Thanks everyone for your responses!
The results have clustered between 12% and 4100%. So armed with that valuable information we can all now live our lives much better-er. Thanks again.
fatfish
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 16, 2006 @ 2:58p
I recently got the same response to a couple of personal Citi cards (even though I got 2 that I applied for).
Fico ~750 Total Citi credit is 62% of stated income over 5 cards
I'm 19 with a reported income of ~$70,000. Haven't checked my FICO in a while. I'm trying to clean up my credit report, I combined a few cards and closed my Capital One card (I know!).
Macy's Store Card $600 Chase Student +1 Visa $1,000 Bank of America Student Plat Plus Visa $1,000 (Oldest Card) Bank of America/MBNA AMEX $3,000 Citi Student Driver's Edge Visa $3,300 Bank of America Power Rewards/WorldPoints Plat Visa $8,800 Citi Student MTVu Plat Visa $13,300 American Express Green Charge Card - N/A
I also have a few students loans out in my name.
busterbaxter
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Nov. 17, 2006 @ 8:47p
2 personal cards, 1 business. (1 has been opened for 3 years, the other 2 are 2 months old). Fico 750
CL: approx 125% of income, spread over 10 cards, largest lines Citbank $48K, MBNA-no BA $37K, Chase $30K haven't asked for a CL increase in about 10 years, now I get increased every 6 months or so.
FICO (Transunion reported Jan 07) 840, up from 833 for the prior 2 months.
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