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TYTBUDGET
- Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 18, 2006 @ 8:48a
Interesting thread. You know my first instinct upon reading this was, "Ah, I think I know what's going on here. They're trying to get those of us Citibank cardmembers with $50k+ in lifetime 2.99% offers to buy down their balances." But my logic fails based upon my very own profile: They'd have to be extending this offer to something considerably higher than the cap currently offered. 
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needdealsnow
- Happy Member
posted: Dec. 19, 2006 @ 7:56p
Citi credit protector just paid 2 of my minimum payments (about $1600)on a BT card. This reduced my balance due. That was so cool!!
Chase credit protector does not pay anything for you. Instead they do not request the minimum payment for covered months.
Still I do the chase credit protectors for the $20 and the fun of cancelling... lol got to get a life! id there a good deal (for life) in the HD forum?
makeinu said:Snyder81 said:Some programs just delay payments, other actually make the min payments. If my wife and I ever have a kid, I'll be signing up for "credit protector" about 2 weeks before she pops 
Can you name any programs/banks that make the min payments? There should be a separate thread about this. |
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Arcanlaw
- Tired Member
posted: Dec. 20, 2006 @ 1:51a
I received the same promo - easy money. I have a credit score between 785 and 790 ... not sure what citibank was thinking when they sent me this letter. I have a 15K 0% balance that I'll gladly pay down for $550 tax free dollars. Couldn't believe it, it's almost like winning a little lottery!  |
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cclyde
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Dec. 20, 2006 @ 5:02p
When I first got this promo, I thought it was great because the 4 month period coincides with the payoff of my 0% BT on the card (I got a 20% capped at $550 offer). The problem is that if I pay the entire balance off, according to the terms of the offer, I effectively eliminate the credit line (credit limit will be reduced by an amount equal to the sum of the payments made including: minimum due payments, payments made in excess of the minimum due, the total statement credit earned from this program, minus any new debits and returned payments).
If I maximize the offer (make 3 minimum payments, then minimum + $2,750($550/20%), and let it roll 1 month out of the 0%, I calculate that I'll pay about $33 in interest. I still net $517 on the deal, but lose $3,300 in CL on a $7,500 CL card.
The only 'loophole' I can see is in manipulating 'minus any new debits and returned payments.' I could theoretically buy something expensive enough to offset the CL reduction on another card, then try to return it using this card (I closed the purchasing account, or some excuse like that) during the last month of the 4 months of the promo. Any ideas (guesses) on why that would or would not work? |
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d4ldtppsc
- Thrifty Member
posted: Jan. 2, 2007 @ 4:46p
Another relevant SD post:
I paid off this CC. Anyway i dont give * s**t what its for. Iam taking max adv. off it for sure. I am sorry i didn't notice the invitation number. Anyway the number is 1-800-258-1794. |
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WalStMonky
- Happy Member
posted: Jan. 2, 2007 @ 7:24p
Made me run and get my offer letter. Nothing in mine about reduced credit limits or not using the card subsequent to enrolling. Just that my account has to remain in good standing, no 'payment arrangement programs', and payment dollars that result in a credit balance don't count. But I 'only' get 10% up to $550 so I have to pay $5500 + mins. I'm on a 2% for life of the balance offer. High balance, many minimum payments made previous to the buydown offer. I also have another Citi card with a 2% for life offer which was not invited but it's only ~1/3 of the outstanding balance as the card mentioned above.
I can't for the life of me understand why issuers get worried about min payments. If it makes them nervous raise the min payment for gosh sake. Don't tell me $x fulfills my obligation if you're going to say nasty stuff about me in the back room. |
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SUCKISSTAPLES
- Charter Member
posted: Jan. 3, 2007 @ 2:19a
WalStMonky said:Made me run and get my offer letter. Nothing in mine about reduced credit limits or not using the card subsequent to enrolling. .those are the terms I had the most concern about in reference to your questions to me in the FAQ |
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WalStMonky
- Happy Member
posted: Jan. 3, 2007 @ 3:34a
Agree the credit line reduction term is a big honking red flag waving. Being unaware that other people had those terms spawned my confusion.
I do think it is for customers that make Citi nervous. I've recently maxed out all my credit lines. Of course in the FWF tradition in order to 0 all of DW's accounts so 'she' can do an imminent app-o-rama. I posted about Chase rate jacking me on one account and lowering a credit limit on another. Seems I've made two issuers nervous. Of course in keeping with my min payment complaint, why the heck do you extend a credit 'limit' if lending me that much is going to make them nervous? But then again if these issuers thought sensibly there'd be a who lot fewer opportunities to get those free banannas that are soooo delicious. Mmm, banannas. |
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DreamKrusher
- Senior Member
posted: Feb. 13, 2007 @ 6:58p
I received the 10% variety of this offer today ($550 max). Has anyone had any luck turning a 10% into a 20% offer by calling? Has anyone that received a 10% successfully waited it out for a 20% offer?
If I don’t take their offer, I wonder if they reduce my available credit line anyway. Not more than 9 months ago they were begging me to accept higher rate offers in exchange for a higher credit line. Now they are trying to entice me to pay this down.
Here is my situation:
FICO>700 (according to Providian)
Total outstanding credit card balances = 90K (53% credit card utilization)
The 90K is spread over 0% balances with Chase and Discover and a 2.99% for life on one of my Citi credit cards.
The card referenced in the offer has an outstanding balance $21K (limit $25.5K). I have been making slightly over the min. since 11/05 (when I max’d it out with the 2.99% offer.)
If I was to pay down this balance $5500 and accept a $6000 credit line decrease, my utilization will be 51% (currently 52%).
Just before posting this, I tried to request a credit line increase on-line. The result was:
“Your credit report indicates one or more of your account balances with other creditors is high, compared to the available credit.
Your balance is high on one or more of your accounts with us, compared to the total credit limit.”
I guess I know why I have been targeted. I have until March 14 to make a decision. |
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WalStMonky
- Happy Member
posted: Feb. 13, 2007 @ 7:30p
Wow, you've got me hoping that Citi's going to make this a habit. Is this a great country or what? They lend you cheap money then pay you to send it back to them. I must say Citibank been very very good to me.
Of course it depends how they think of me subsequent to paying everything off. If I never get another Citi card I'll be very sad. But somehow I think they'll fall all over themselves to lend me money once my FICO bounces back. It's just a matter of a couple of weeks now as all my accounts are zeroed. Now it's my poor wife who's 'overextended'.
DreamKrusher, how about calling the phone number and tell them you're aware that they've offered 20% to others and you're not inclined to accept the inferior offer. Heck, they might just say 20% is no problem. Your offer is also worse than my 10% discount because I suffered no credit limit reduction and my card was not restricted from making new purchases. It might be better to say you're aware that others who got the 10% offer weren't forced to have their credit limit lowered and get them to match my terms instead of other's %. |
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WalStMonky
- Happy Member
posted: Feb. 15, 2007 @ 6:13p
OK, I am seriously bummed out right now. Converted my Diamond Preferred to the Driver's Edge product. Just got a letter from S. Larson telling me that the account is disqualified from this program because of doing so. So if anyone is participating be warned that Citi may stiff you if you ask them to change to a different design on the front of your card. Another interesting note is I had no clue that this account was enrolled. I've already double checked and all my paperwork wrt this program was for my Dividend Select card. So it seems enrolling one enrolls them all, and that I would have gotten a surprise $550 in April had I not been attracted to that stupid highway design. Be advised that you might be in line to get more than one buy down if you have more than one card. |
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zjts
- Senior Member
posted: Feb. 18, 2007 @ 11:15a
Currently, is this an account specific offer &, if so, targeted thru US mail or the website? |
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dudetheobscure
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Feb. 18, 2007 @ 1:30p
zjts said:Currently, is this an account specific offer &, if so, targeted thru US mail or the website?
Yes, this is an account-specific buy-out directed, one would assume, at those Citi perceives are the riskiest of borrowers. AFAIK, no amount of begging and pleading will induce them to extend their largesse to anyone else - a pity. |
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SUCKISSTAPLES
- Charter Member
posted: Feb. 20, 2007 @ 4:44a
WalStMonky said:OK, I am seriously bummed out right now. Converted my Diamond Preferred to the Driver's Edge product. Just got a letter from S. Larson telling me that the account is disqualified from this program because of doing so. So if anyone is participating be warned that Citi may stiff you if you ask them to change to a different design on the front of your card. Another interesting note is I had no clue that this account was enrolled. I've already double checked and all my paperwork wrt this program was for my Dividend Select card. So it seems enrolling one enrolls them all, and that I would have gotten a surprise $550 in April had I not been attracted to that stupid highway design. Be advised that you might be in line to get more than one buy down if you have more than one card.yes i was very afraid enrolling in this would put you on citis deadbeat roster.
Citi already pays me over $10k a year, im not going to jeapordize it with a "risky accounts" program bonus |
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WalStMonky
- Happy Member
posted: Feb. 20, 2007 @ 5:16a
Well, I guess we'll see in the next month or two when I do my AOR. They've already done two conduit BTs subsequent to my paying off my 'deadbeat' balance for almost 30k total so I'm certainly not on a 'do not lend' list. I think you're reading too much into this program, at least for those who weren't cut off. Regardless, I don't think enrolling and taking their money makes any difference once they make the offer. If you're right, just getting the offer means you're on the 'list'. |
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Baldrick
- Senior Member
posted: Feb. 20, 2007 @ 9:32p
I just got the 20%/$550/CL reduction offer in the mail today. This is on a card I only just got in my AOR last Sept! The only thing this card has ever been used for is a 12month 0% BT, which is currently sitting at a little under 50% on an 11k line, and I've only been making the min payments each month (plus the extra dollar or two occasionally). It's tempting I must admit, but that CL decrease and possibly unknown adverse action bothers me.
Has anyone who signed up for this when these offers first started appearing experienced any adverse actions since? |
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taxmantoo
- Ancient Member
posted: Feb. 20, 2007 @ 9:48p
This just seems like a poor plan on Citi's part. They offer a nice perk to their potentially overextended BT customers, they will pay 20% interest to borrow their own money back. The result is that the overextended customers can't take advantage because they have trouble scraping up the minimum payments, and the ones who do take the offer (because Citi's money was sitting in a HYS account) weren't a default risk in the first place.
The only way this works is if upper management is trying to get a performance bonus, and getting above minimum paybacks on these accounts allows them to lower the "allowance for doubtful accounts", hence boosting Citi's current reported earnings. If only CEOs would devote half as much time to managing the company as they do to managing their compensation packages... |
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WalStMonky
- Happy Member
posted: Feb. 20, 2007 @ 10:33p
No adverse action here yet. Then again, my offer was 10%/$550, there was no credit line reduction and I was free to use my card during the enrollment period. Though I must admit the thought of paying 19.24% interest on purchases underneath a low rate BT didn't appeal to me so I never tried. But I think it would have scared the bejeezus out of me had they taken away that opportunity. I haven't heard anyone else report being offered the same deal though. I find that peculiar. My credit line is intact, they've done 2 separate BTs subsequently, and I just found out they gave me $10 dividend dollars for doing them.
Currently I'm of the opinion that Citi's actions from extending these fabulous low rates to offering the buy back have everything to do with securitization of the debt. But that's pure speculation on my part. |
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Thrilla
- Happy Member
posted: Feb. 20, 2007 @ 10:38p
SUCKISSTAPLES said:Citi already pays me over $10k a year, im not going to jeapordize it with a "risky accounts" program bonus
I wonder if you would already be placed on such a list (if it exists) before joining the program. Is it not intuitive that you are already classified as a "risky account" if you aleady received the offer? |
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Baldrick
- Senior Member
posted: Feb. 21, 2007 @ 1:04a
How funny. I was just poking around on Citi's website for grins and went to the Credit Line Increase screen for one of my other Citi cards (one that I actually use on a daily basis). And just like that they bumped up its CL another $2k. I guess I'm not completely on their naughty list! At least that partially mitigates the CL reduction on the other card if I do sign up for the payment program. |
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